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Mars Demonbane vs Arceus

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Okay, so looking for a good match up for Arceus, this one came to my mind. Of course, both are at their Low 2-C forms (arceus is missing... lets say... the dragon plate). Who takes the cake?

Speed equalized.

They fight in a void and indestructible multiverse. Win by any means (Ko, BFR, whatever).

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Demonbane_(Gunshin_Kyoushuu)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Arceus

Votes:

Arceus: 4

Demonbane: 3

Arceus/Inconclusive: 1

Inconclusive: 1

Arceus is restricted from summoning the creation trio.
 
@Pa You should inform Cal on this thread as this match got interesting though I am kinda leaning on Arceus due to his concept manipulation and other things.
 
@Star assume that by "informing" you mean leaving a message in his wall? If Im mistaken, please let me know.
 
Arceus or Inconclusive

Demonbane's High Godly regen is going to be troublesome for Arceus. But Demonbane can't bypass Arceus' remaining plates and immortality.
 
Cant demonbane use causality manipulation and reality warping to bypass the defenses?
 
IDK about Casuality but im pretty sure Arceus is immune to reality warping via the plates. I mean reality warping moves like RoT, SR, Trick Room etc are classified as types like Dragon and Psychic. Dragon may be missing but Psychic can still have reality warping under its belt, which Arceus can nullify out with the other plates.
 
Arceus is acausal, so causality Manipulation won't help.

Edit: there are also psychic types that reality warp through their psychic strength like Gothitelle, so it isn't just trick room that acts as psychic reality warping.
 
^true, my mistake. Also, editing OP, I'll delete the two rounds part. Any ideas on how can Demonbane win here?
 
I don't know about win, but Arceus probably can't get around high-godly regen. Concept Manipulation may be able to deal with it, but Arceus doesn't have the feats to say that conclusively, so I vote inconclusive.
 
He is allowed to summon the creation trio only if Demonbanes' temporal clones are also Low 2-C (which im not sure since I dont know much about him).
 
He doesn't have much to get past the regen, and how does fighting abstract beings help when he'll have to fight several of the same enemy at once? Illusions are on Demonbane's side too.
 
Arceus' army is overall way better than his opponents and if nothing less Perish Song will knock his opponent out.
 
RadicalMrR said:
Arceus' army is overall way better than his opponents and if nothing less Perish Song will knock his opponent out.
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Pretty sure you can't knock out a robot, that is, if this fight is only using the Demonbane mech itself and not including its pilots.
 
Didn't know he was mechanical, logic would say its a mute point but considering that some Pokemon aren't organic can be affected by it i'm not sure.

If BFR doesn't work then Inconclusive.
 
Well there's metagross with robotic like qualities. There's also the Klang species which are just living gears. Dont forget Magnemite as well. Hell we have Machienia who's a literal man-made robot pokemon....and if they're still considered pokemon then Perish Song can work on robotic beings, meaning its working here.

Also I dont see how Temporal Clones matter here when Arceus can not only do the same thing, but do stuff far better. If he can fight, create and destroy Dialga who's time itself, even when weakened, I highly doubt a few clones from different time periods will mean anything to him.
 
iThink Mars Demonbane, non-corporela/abstract/comceptual being that de destruction of the Universe and conceptis like space-time, origin-end, life-death do not affect him, also have an ********** Hax and the Lemuria IMpac, and atack can bypasses defenses, and have infinite energy, mass, heat and gravity can errase you from the existence, also de Lower Temporal Clones in any Point in the time itself and posibility "omniprecencial" DMG....and othes abilities like ilucion, all forms of time manipulation, casualit and acasuality, informacion, reality, conceptual, etc, also, Masr demonbane and Masr Liber Legis cand adapt...no, have Reactive Evolution every second the battle continue...lol


y dont know how arceis is hable to fight this beast...
 
Arceus is above the concepts of Time and Space. Both have existence erasure and Arceus has all of those powers. And he can attack Non-Corporeal opponents. Arceus is also an abstract and is above 3 other abstracts. Heck he pretty much created the concepts of the pokemon universe.....

So Arceus is just as haxed.
 
Eh. Couldn't remember whether he was or not. But my point still stands. Plus he did curbstomp 3 abstracts at once.
 
I will say though. Don't know why clones were brought up. That's such a laughable hax in tier 2 that it's not even funny. And yes. I realize the contradiction.
 
The real cal howard said:
I will say though. Don't know why clones were brought up. That's such a laughable hax in tier 2 that it's not even funny. And yes. I realize the contradiction.
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I was gonna question you, but now I can't you jerk....
 
I edited the OP, Arceus is forbidden from summoning Dialga/Palkia/Giratina as the temporal clones dont seem to be as troublesome as I first thought.
 
Anyway. I vote Arceus. Demonbane can only prolong the inevitable with is Regenerationn. And with Arceus' transmutation, there's no way for him to get past that. Nothing he has can actually really affect Arceus.
 
How can transmutation, or any of Arceus' abilities, get passed high godly regen? High regen alone is enough to deal with transmutation and matter manipulation. Even perish song shouldn't work as knocking someone out is far less serious then having their entire existence (including their consciousness) erased.

Neither can beat the other.
 
What if Arceus makes the concept of the pilot who controls Demonbane not exist?

Or the concept of the human species?
 
Arceus did make beings that created the concepts of spirit. He could always screw with that, or pull a GER and reduce their willpower to zero. Or turn them into fried chicken.
 
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