Mario vs Kirito

[The_Smashor]

He's been surrounded by tendrills and not flipped, M8.

And "It wouldn't work in other games would be wierd" isn't valid, since other Paper Mario games exist.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Mario FRA

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

That's grace btw

 

[Ionliosite]

I never said he'll start by flipping into 2-D. I said that when he sees tendrils coming at him from all directions with no way out, he'll do what a sign that literally says "When it looks like there's no way forward, flip dimensions", he'll do that to avoid the attack instead of waiting for the sweet embrace of death.
Not to mention Kirito's getting away with it when he has one major instance that's brought up for freezing, as opposed the the years upon years and arcs upon arcs he has of swordfighting.

And he has done that when?

Kirito in Alicization (which is the one that we are using) once he obtained the Flash Freeze he used it in every intance he could, he has lead with it and spammed it to death.

 

[Ionliosite]

One more question, Mario's votes are based on what exactly?

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

Reasons above

 

[DatOneWeeb]

Just saying, Mario has used flip in battles and is required. Such as one of the bosses that covered the entire stage, so he needed flip to avoid it. Though Cal and SB are getting off topic.

 

[DatOneWeeb]

Also, I don't think Kirito having higher ap will negate the forcefield since it's not a giant gap. Even if Mario doesn't lead with a one-shot hax, he will most likely use them since Kirito will be a huge threat against him. Mario should be able to survive the start of battle due to reasons I've listed above.

 

[The_Smashor]

Mario gets frozen before he can do jack all. He won't flip because he hasn't flipped his way out of traps outside of Super Paper Mario.

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

Can't if Mario has passive forcefields which will give him the perfect chance to use his hax transmuation,soul manipulation/sealing, time manipulation, BFR Etc

 

[Arceus0x]

ik it is grace buuuuut mario fra

 

[Dragopentling]

I think grace is already over?

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

Who wants to add this?

 

[Ionliosite]

Why? Mario's arguments were mostly debunked, so grace hasn't even started.

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

What? no they weren't debunked. Also just contact and admin like @StarterPack

 

[Ionliosite]

Look at The Smashor's arguments, they were debunked there.

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

Not really he's just arguing about 1 ability Mario has that somehow he shouldn't use

 

[Ionliosite]

Is Mario's forcefield really passive? Nowhere in the article says that. It only says passive power nullification, which isn't even passive because he has to use the items.

The most probable Mario's leading move is launching fire balls, which won't save him from the freeze.

Tell me one time in which Mario led with transmuation,soul manipulation/sealing, time manipulation, BFR etc?

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Guard Shell DX does not have to be activated in battle.

 

[Ionliosite]

I don't think he has it with him all the time. I haven't seen a Mario game in which the first couple of hits he takes are automatically nulled.

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

You just never played mario and luigi dream team

 

[Ionliosite]

And it has happenend in another one? Because if not, then that isn't part of his standard equipment.

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

Dream team and paper jam. Im gonna be busy at the moment and this thread is getting kinda large and grace is over.

 

[The_Smashor]

Well, to the Versus Thread Removal Request thread I go

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

Bump.

 

[DatOneWeeb]

What's the vote count?

 

[Kruull_Thrull]

I have a question, can starman be affected by Incarnation? It always fails if you fall in a pit so can that be exploited?

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

10-2 that's grace

 

[Ionliosite]

Although Mario's votes were based in things he doesn't actually do, but yes.

 

[DatOneWeeb]

@Kruull Thrull If you're referring to Mario losing a life when falling in a pit, that's a game mechanic.

Also, these are moves Mario will do. Regardless if he does them from the start or not. Can someone add this?

 

[The_Smashor]

If he dosn't do then from the start, he loses, M8.

I'm taking this to the removal thread the second it gets added. I want Mario to win as much as everyone else, but if Mario dosn't lead with whatever, then he gets freeze GG'd.

 

[DatOneWeeb]

Except his damage nullification will literally nullify it. The moment he becomes a huge threat, I see no reason why Mario can't go for the kill.

 

[Ionliosite]

Apparently that power null was in like two games, why it applies here?

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

Not to mention he resistance to be frozen instantly from ice manipulation via kamek ice magic and other bosses and via ice mario

 

[Ionliosite]

Kirito's ice is colder than that unless it is AZ (which it isn't), so Kirito freezes.

 

[DatOneWeeb]

Apparently that power null was in like two games, why it applies here?

Because it's still overall an item that Mario can use. Mario has used Cappy once, yet several people use it as an argument in other threads. It being in two games does not matter.

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

^ This

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

Kiri can freeze someone who switch from 3d to 2d and stay there as long as he pleases

 

[Ionliosite]

I think it was already said that Mario won't do that, and Mario doesn't have the range to attack from there.

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

It wasn't.