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Yeah, so that proves paint has AE type 1
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Mario and Paint: Concept Manip PART II
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Abstract Existence
Abstract Existence is the ability to embody an abstraction, such as a concept, thought, or information, and being immortal thanks to it. This power has a variety of uses, ranging from a high degree of control over the abstraction and its manifestations, the aforementioned immortality, or even...
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Yes, so existing as thought is AE type 1
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The statement and feat is mind manipulation. If we're high balling it, it's NPI, one or the other. In no way does that statement imply paint=Thoughts.
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Why does it not imply paint = thoughts when thoughts are literally made of paint?
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The statement/feat says "I used the power of paint to color your thoughts", this is actually against Paint being thoughts.
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Alright, explain why
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The witch here basically said she applied paint to the individuals thoughts. This in apsolutely no way means that paint is thoughts, it in fact goes against that notion by having to be applied/used.
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Do you know what paint does? Explain what it does and how it makes up things
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"Do you know the reason of this thread because I apsolutely need paint to be something other then a pile of hax"
Yes I know what paint does, having to be applied to thoughts and that statement alone literally means Paint CANNOT be thoughts, it may be able to effect thoughts in some way or another, but the statement contradicts it being thoughts.
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Ok, tell me what paint does
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I definitely agree with Concept Manip, as Paint seems to the fundamental part of everything that exists.
Should it be Type 2 or 1 tho? I'd prefer 2 based on what I saw tho.
Should it be Type 2 or 1 tho? I'd prefer 2 based on what I saw tho.
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It is what makes up thoughts though
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Man i didn't know the great wall of China was here, though the fact "Paint is conceptual Manipulation and AE 1" is on it is a bit distracting...
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Paint "colouring thoughts" doesn't make it an abstract. A thought is a synonym of idea only in the sense of "hey, I've got a good idea!", not in the sense we mean when talking about concepts. It is however some form of Telepathy.
Can we drop that part now? This was far more long-winded than it needed to be
Can we drop that part now? This was far more long-winded than it needed to be
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Agreed. I personally agree with paint being concept manip and all the abilities presented.
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Paint being a fundamental aspect of literally everything doesn't make it some form of concept? Tell me that. I'm supposed to believe it's just NPI when it's responsible for space and exists in other dimensions (some implied to be higher in dimensionality)? Does being able to manipulate this thing that governs how literally everything functions in the verse not qualify as CM? I've seen other verses get CM for less.
Paint has a lot of powers yes, but manipulating Paint itself as it is in Paper Mario seems to be some ability in of itself. And I think CM fits it the most from what I've seen. Paint itself is the abstract here.
Paint has a lot of powers yes, but manipulating Paint itself as it is in Paper Mario seems to be some ability in of itself. And I think CM fits it the most from what I've seen. Paint itself is the abstract here.
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I’ve thought over everything, and if paint governs the aspect of literally everything including physical things, non physical things, pocket realities/dimensions, and I guess even influenced to higher dimensional things, then whose to say that it wouldn’t apply to abstract things too? Paint is literally controlling the very concept of everything therefore abstract things as well. I’m agreeing with Fox atm.
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It's responsible for memories, text in a book, can be used to change the dimensions in a digital world only coded to be 2D, light, souls, life, emotions, being able to attack at all, space and likely dimensions as it exists in parallel universes and higher dimensions...
What specific proof do we need?
What specific proof do we need?
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Yeah, isn't that all that's needed? So aren't we gonna apply the changes
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No. We still need agreements lol and to tally it all up
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Can you summarise all the people who agreed?
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Well we'd need some mod agreements. Currently every mod who's replied has disagreed I think.
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Ok, so which type of concept manip btw? 2 as I said?
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- Concept Alteration: The ability to manipulate, alter, or change concepts. By using this ability, concepts themselves can be changed in a variety of ways. The concept can have have an object added to it, an object taken from it, or change the current principle of the concept. If a concept is changed, the world is altered in some way to fit this new conceptual definition, though the extent of this varies by the type of concept being manipulated.
- Concept Destruction: The ability to destroy or remove a concept. By using the ability concepts are removed from reality. This can be wide-spread or very targeted, either erasing the concept of an overarching fundamental principle, such as space, or an individual. When destroyed at this level, nothing can be restored without using similarly powerful conceptual creation. Conventional regeneration or resurrection, no matter how powerful, would prove impossible as the very abstract concept of the character would not exist.
You can only heal these colorless spots and characters by utilizing the stolen paint too. Enemies and characters that have shown regeneration cannot regenerate or resurrect after their paint is lost.
And yes I think Type 2 could fit after reading the page
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Hello
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Hello
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I'm still thinking this could be something. I think a concept fits personally. What else would it be? Don't concepts govern how the world works/functions? Paint does that. It makes up everything and when removed from that something they lose all functionality. It even exists within other universes and makes up space and dimensions. What else do we need to prove something is a concept?
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is this ever going to conclude or..?
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Yeah, closing this. Is an absolute mess. Best to gather all the evidence and start fresh.
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