maou gakuin no futekigousha Upgrade from 2-A to low 1-C

[Sus]

What is enough for “Tier 1” if I may ask?

but i don't disagree because of the microscopic stuff

I already clarified that this is usually not acceptable for tier 1 but its also not far fitched to be considered as such, given my neutral stance

 

[Arnoldstone18]

???
Thats not how it works

Either you explain your reasoning on why it is insufficient or you wait for someone to explain for you so you can second it.

 

[ImmortalDread]

I already clarified that this is usually not acceptable for tier 1 but its also not far fitched to be considered as such, given my neutral stance

uwu, I love you more sussy. I will explain why later.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Anyway, lets not derail, I am waiting for someone to comment, please. (I am saying please cmon..)

 

[Arnoldstone18]

I already clarified that this is usually not acceptable for tier 1 but its also not far fitched to be considered as such, given my neutral stance

Fair

 

[Sus]

uwu, I love you more sussy. I will explain why later.

I don't even know what to say at this point

Either you explain your reasoning on why it is insufficient or you wait for someone to explain for you so you can second it.

I already explained why

I don't agree because 2A can contain 2A
I don't disagree because the contained 2A is microscopic to the container

 

[NHTkenshin2]

It is actually impossible that i was waiting for this upgrade for more then a year and i missed it.

Not only did i miss it, its REJECTED?? How have we been preparing shit for more then a year and we FINALLY shoot our shot and miss?

 

[Arnoldstone18]

It is actually impossible that i was waiting for this upgrade for more then a year and i missed it.

Not only did i miss it, its REJECTED?? How have we been preparing shit for more then a year and we FINALLY shoot our shot and miss?

Not rejected, seems like everyone agrees with 5D… just the 6D stuff.

 

[Antvasima]

By the way, don't want to continue the drama but this thread was almost closed for 1 staff disagree on 6-D and neutral (ig) in 5-D? Where's the overall disagree there? Holy.....

Well, maybe I misunderstood then, but a tier 0 Anos upgrade seems completely outrageous.

If somebody explains all sides of the arguments here in easy to understand but sufficiaåently thorough manners, I can ask our staff for evaluations though.

I would appreciate a much less extreme degree of spam posts here outside of that though.

 

[ImmortalDread]

I don't even know what to say at this point

Say I love you back, simple

I already explained why

I don't agree because 2A can contain 2A
I don't disagree because the contained 2A is microscopic to the container

Mhm, mind reading the last quote in my OP. It could help you bestie <3

 

[Sus]

but a tier 0 Anos upgrade seems completely outrageous.

Ant, it was a joke

 

[Orioreeem]

Well, maybe I misunderstood then, but a tier 0 Anos upgrade seems completely outrageous.

That was a joke

 

[Sus]

Say I love you back, simple

Skull emoji

Mhm, mind reading the last quote in my OP. It could help you bestie <3

I already read that, and no, the wiki doesn't accept containing 4D as 5D

 

[ImmortalDread]

Skull emoji

I already read that, and no, the wiki doesn't accept containing 4D as 5D

Are you aware the quote was from staff itself in another thread..?

 

[Dereck03]

If somebody explains all sides of the arguments here in easy to understand but sufficiaåently thorough manners, I can ask our staff for evaluations though.

I would appreciate a much less extreme degree of spam posts here outside of that though.

Currently it cannot be summed up, the OP explains what is fair and necessary, there have been no proper counterarguments and elaboration (Most for the disagreed part) necessary to take this as accepted or rejected, the only thing left is to wait for the evaluation of knowledgeable members and staff.

but a tier 0 Anos upgrade seems completely outrageous.

Naughty joke... Or maybe not? Probably soon.

 

[Sus]

Are you aware the quote was from staff itself in another thread..?

No, i weren't aware of that, when was that decided?

If so, count me as agreement

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Well, maybe I misunderstood then, but a tier 0 Anos upgrade seems completely outrageous.

Ant Sir, we were kidding.

 

[ImmortalDread]

No, i weren't aware of that, when was that decided?

If so, count me as agreement

Sussy.. I already linked the thread in OP. Please.... it took me 10 hours to work on this + the cosmology picture...
I even asked everyone about it before making it public.

 

[Mr._Undetected]

This verse doesn't make sense, it doesn't even have a downgrade

Well.... I'm neutral

 

[DigiAnymore]

Agree for 5D, neutral 6D.

 

[ImmortalDread]

This verse doesn't make sense, it doesn't even have a downgrade

Well.... I'm neutral

Ya, nothing is impossible in this world, I make impossiblness to possibleness hehe

 

[NHTkenshin2]

uwu, I love you more sussy. I will explain why later.

Alright, obviously the bubble is superior in nature to a 2-A realm, making it 5D, idk about 6D tho

 

[Sus]

Sussy.. I already linked the thread in OP. Please.... it took me 10 hours to work on this + the cosmology picture...
I even asked everyone about it before making it public.

Call me P
and sorry, i get dizzy looking at large texts i probably didn't notice it

 

[ImmortalDread]

Call me P
and sorry, i get dizzy looking at large texts i probably didn't notice it

No worries bestie

 

[Dereck03]

Everyone, now... I'll be reporting any derailment, memes, unnecesary comments.. That was enough.​

 

[Antvasima]

Ant, it was a joke

Okay, my apologies for the misunderstanding then.

 

[Antvasima]

I would appreciate a much less extreme degree of spam posts here outside of that though.

Anyway, if there is any more derailment and spam here I will unfortunately likely be force to unfollow this thread, and then it will likely self-die. I just don't have sufficient available time and energy to spend much further time here.

 

[Caduz213]

I suggest that 6D be removed and we only evaluate 5D for now. That should solve the problem.

 

[NHTkenshin2]

Aye, we can always wait 4 more years for 6D
Yeah, i think discussing it in the discussion thread would be better

 

[Caduz213]

Aye, we can always wait 4 more years for 6D
Yeah, i think discussing it in the discussion thread would be better

5D It's already a big step forward.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Correction: That would be High 1-B/Low 1-A

Not at all
It is essentially woodin cardinal, for each crystal would contain uncountable infinite of other crystals which would also contain uncountable infinite crystals which also do the same to no end.
1{2{3{4{5{5{6(1(2(3[1[2[3......... till infinity.

Either way, the focus is on destroying the possibilities, it's not like the other version of Anos is killed either.

Uhhm the crystal is supposed to contain those other version, destroying it means destroying them

the crystals do not need infinite versions of each character physically existing, they only need to be comparable in size and they are compared to a Universe.

Then you should read the arguments again. That would make the crystal low 2C not the current 2-A


And yes "I don't find the proof sufficient for 6-D is valid in this case"
As you only provided something and it's not sufficient for a 6-D upgrade.

Anyway I will be waiting for a likely explanation to my post

 

[ImmortalDread]

Not at all
It is essentially woodin cardinal, for each crystal would contain uncountable infinite of other crystals which would also contain uncountable infinite crystals which also do the same to no end.
1{2{3{4{5{5{6(1(2(3[1[2[3......... till infinity.

Uhhm the crystal is supposed to contain those other version, destroying it means destroying them


Then you should read the arguments again. That would make the crystal low 2C not the current 2-A


And yes "I don't find the proof sufficient for 6-D is valid in this case"
As you only provided something and it's not sufficient for a 6-D upgrade.

Anyway I will be waiting for a likely explanation to my post

You want to downgrade the verse to low 2-C? You are joking right?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Not at all
It is essentially woodin cardinal, for each crystal would contain uncountable infinite of other crystals which would also contain uncountable infinite crystals which also do the same to no end.
1{2{3{4{5{5{6(1(2(3[1[2[3......... till infinity.

Infinite recursions are High 1-B (higher depending on the context). Plus, they cannot reach High 1-A either since it is beyond the reach of power sets already.

You cannot reach neither High 1-A nor 0 via stacking hierarchies of dimensions or whatever, even if they are uncountable infinite. Thats the point of those tiers. They are equated to inaccessible cardinals, which use those properties (as stated on the tiering system)

exceed any possible number of levels contained in the previous tiers, including an infinite or uncountably infinite number.

Practically speaking, this would be something completely unreachable to any 1-A hierarchies.

A concrete example of such an object would be an inaccessible cardinal, which in simple terms is a number so large that it cannot be reached ("accessed") by smaller numbers, and as such has to be "assumed" to exist in order to be made sense of or defined in a formal context

 

[sen_]

Then you should read the arguments again. That would make the crystal low 2C not the current 2-A

the timeline is Low 2-C, there are infinite of those tho

 

[sen_]

Not at all
It is essentially woodin cardinal, for each crystal would contain uncountable infinite of other crystals which would also contain uncountable infinite crystals which also do the same to no end.
1{2{3{4{5{5{6(1(2(3[1[2[3......... till infinity.

that barely reaches Aleph-omega, let alone inaccessible or even Woodin

 

[Dog3352]

Uhhm the crystal is supposed to contain those other version, destroying it means destroying them

Nah, you destroy the structures, not their versions, besides, we're just talking about the World of Nafta, when the world of Nafta is destroyed, Anos or any other version of you will go back to where they were before Nafta summoned the World.

 

[PrinceofPein]

You want to downgrade the verse to low 2-C? You are joking right?

Never said that. Just explaining something

the timeline is Low 2-C, there are infinite of those tho

And that is 2-A

Infinite recursions are High 1-B (Low 1-A depending on the context). Plus, they cannot reach High 1-A either since it is beyond the reach of power sets already.

You cannot reach neither High 1-A nor 0 via stacking hierarchies of dimensions or whatever, even if they are uncountable infinite. Thats the point of those tiers. They are equated to inaccessible cardinals, which use those properties (as stated on the tiering system)

This is derailing so I may DM to continue but I want to put it out there that you can reach inaccessible cardinals by stacking up sets, only the size of the sets matter.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Nah, you destroy the structures, not their versions, besides, we're just talking about the World of Nafta, when the world of Nafta is destroyed, Anos or any other version of you will go back to where they were before Nafta summoned the World.

You do know this is coming from your head and not what the author said?

 

[sen_]

And that is 2-A

exactly, realms are 2-A.

 

[PrinceofPein]

exactly, realms are 2-A.

Read the 2-A thread, the crystal is 2-A