Maou Gakuin Downgrades are Back Again (For the Second Time)

[Dereck03]

Me when see no Higher degree of law manip in the profile

 

[Deagonx]

Sorry about. I know you're tired with how long this has gone for but I still haven't received a response on this

Tatsumi, I don't know you, but I am going to be very blunt: I got the impression very quickly that you were ready to argue with me perpetually about it, even though from where I was sitting the argument about the power differential based fear thing was very clear cut not fear manipulation, and I felt like you were trying to brute-force a very silly interpretation in spite of common sense for an extremely inconsequential ability that -- prior to Dereck's additional scans -- was permitted on a very poor basis. I didn't respond because I had already made my views very clear and I felt that it was better to agree to disagree than to keep going in circles with you about it.

This is a piece of friendly advice, not me speaking as a mod. I think you should pick your battles more conservatively. No one wants to go in circles about the same issues over and over, or to have very small common-sense corrections turned into a never-ending battle with someone who will simply never concede the point.

I've said my piece on the matter, I don't want to discuss it with you further, and we already have enough staff agrees to move on. Please do not make a further issue of it.

 

[Deagonx]

Me when see no Higher degree of law manip in the profile

Can you add it and lock the profile so I can close this thread?

 

[Tatsumi504]

Okay, the edits have been applied and this can be closed while Anos' profile should be locked again.

Why did you remove his resistance to HGR negation despite derect, deagonx, lephyr disagreeing with it and the only agreement being from Glassman and planck that never even participated in the discussion?

 

[Deagonx]

Why did you remove his resistance to HGR negation despite derect, deagonx, lephyr disagreeing with it and the only agreement being from Glassman and planck that never even participated in the discussion?

I didn't disagree, I very directly agreed with it. And further, staff votes do not count less because they do not participate in the discussion. Glassman and Planck's votes are worth just as much as mine.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Me when see no Higher degree of law manip in the profile

oops, If you give me an idea of what to write for the justification then I can add that rq since we kinda skimmed over it being greater law manip :v

Why did you remove his resistance to HGR negation despite derect, deagonx, lephyr disagreeing with it and the only agreement being from Glassman and planck that never even participated in the discussion?

You, again, cannot discredit staff votes just because you don't like their input. Also, Deagon agreed with removing HGR.

 

[Tatsumi504]

Tatsumi, I don't know you, but I am going to be very blunt: I got the impression very quickly that you were ready to argue with me perpetually about it, even though from where I was sitting the argument about the power differential based fear thing was very clear cut not fear manipulation, and I felt like you were trying to brute-force a very silly interpretation in spite of common sense for an extremely inconsequential ability that -- prior to Dereck's additional scans -- was permitted on a very poor basis. I didn't respond because I had already made my views very clear and I felt that it was better to agree to disagree than to keep going in circles with you about it.

This is a piece of friendly advice, not me speaking as a mod. I think you should pick your battles more conservatively. No one wants to go in circles about the same issues over and over, or to have very small common-sense corrections turned into a never-ending battle with someone who will simply never concede the point.

I've said my piece on the matter, I don't want to discuss it with you further, and we already have enough staff agrees to move on. Please do not make a further issue of it.

I just wanted to hear your final thoughts on the matter especially since I combed through four novels worth of content for the scans. Sorry for the bother

 

[Tatsumi504]

You, again, cannot discredit staff votes just because you don't like their input. Also, Deagon agreed with removing HGR.

Wasn't my intention. That part was only referring to planck not glass as glass did view the refutations.

 

[Deagonx]

Plancks votes still count just as much.

 

[Dereck03]

oops, If you give me an idea of what to write for the justification then I can add that rq since we kinda skimmed over it being greater law manip :v

([Insert scan here By destroying the reason, Venuzdonoa can passively negate a character's immunity to certain attacks making them vulnerable to them])

Suffice?

 

[Deceived3596]

Well, if we're shelving the CM for another thread, i'll shelve my opinion on it as well until that thread is created.

 

[Deagonx]

Venuzdonoa can passively negate a character's immunity to certain attacks making them vulnerable to them

I would prefer to reword it like this:

Venuzdonoa can passively override the logic that two identical energies cannot harm each other, allowing a holy weapon to harm a holy being

 

[Dereck03]

Venuzdonoa can passively override the logic that two identical energies cannot harm each other, allowing a holy weapon to harm a holy being

This one is more specific to the feat, yes. But my worded is for more generalization, because Venuz has many feats of destroying reason, you can check here some few of them, tho the others feats can be categorized under other abilities in the wiki.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Some of those feats are still not presented in LN yet.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Okay, done for real this time. This can actually be closed now. I didn't see Deagon's rewritten draft so I hope what I wrote is okay :v

 

[Dereck03]

Some of those feats are still not presented in LN yet.

I know, they are examples of the feats that will come when the LN reaches that point.

 

[Deagonx]

Okay, done for real this time. This can actually be closed now.

Great. Thanks for helping