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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

People are busy you know, we have highschools, part time job, house chores etc
Well it's weekend. I am also busy in normal days. Beside many haven't read the series so I can't talk to others about the series outside I meant can't discuss anything.
 
I think silver sea can be low 1C. Like ultima said there is no structure larger than 2A structure and still 2A structure

And every layer of silver sea is 2A structure and contain by silver sea. And silver sea it self is infinite in size, thats mean its infinitely larger than what is contain
To be fair, Chrono’s case is more of her sheer size > 2A multiverse growing exponentially (which stated there are infinite universes for every moment of time) so the entirety of the continuum would lead to something like infinite^infinite universes.

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though I guess it could work by taking that space of silver sea > possibly infinite layers which each layer a 2A size.
 
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To be fair Chrono’s case is more of her sheer size > 2A multiverse growing exponentially (which stated there are infinite universes for every moment of time) so the entirety of the continuum would lead to something like infinite^infinite universes.
I not talking about chrono, i talking about ultima's statament

And i dont think is infinite^infinite universes
 
SS has an endless/infinite size, the latter contains 99+ layers that have an infinite size and by the author's words are more than 99+ and if we use the reason of the layers being able to contain up to infinite universes when only countless is mentioned, we could say that the SS could contain up to infinite layers. So we have a vastly infinite structure (SS) that has 99+ (possibly infinite) layers of infinite size, which in turn each layer has up to infinite worlds (and most likely each world has countless worlds in it). ***without forgetting the possible difference in dimensionality that exists between the layers and also the SS to contain them must be something that even surpasses the layers themselves.
 
Hey i got better idea than make silver sea a low 1C structure

Lets make the bubble or at least the layer is low 1C structure (5D)

I read the brane cosmology theory, and i found if the universe(4D structure) is being subspace in the bigger universe, it can make the universe is higher dimension

And the santuaries (4D universe structure) is only a microcosm or a subscape in the bubble. Clarify by misha statement that space in the militia world is not uniform but distorted, i think is distorted because there is many subspace (santuary) in that world
 
まん 「紅血魔槍、 秘奥が肆――」

巨大な血の門がそこに出現する。 それはこれまでもよりも更に大き く、そして強力な魔力を秘めている。

多様な世界での戦闘を経て、 研鑽を積んだことにより、 ミリティア世 界にいたときよりも冥王の実力は数段増している。 その言葉通り、いかに敵が魔弾世界エレネシアが誇る深淵総軍といえど、雑兵如きには後れをとるまい。

けっかいもん 「一<血界門> !」

血の門が開かれる。

兵士たちの放った数十発もの魔弾がそこをくぐった瞬間、 次元に飲ま れて消えた。

次の瞬間、 その魔弾は奴らが布陣を敷くその場所に出現する。

「くっ······!!」

奴らが気がついた瞬間、 魔弾は爆発した。

「ぐっ、ぬうつ······ ! ! 」

「次元術式の使い手か・・・・・・」

隊長クラスほどの反魔法は使えぬものの、それでも兵士たちもかなり のレベルだ。 <血界門>にて返された魔弾を直撃した者もいるが、 軽傷 けっかいもん である。

「くるがよい、 深淵総軍」

腰を落とし、 イージェスは静かに魔愴を構えた。

兵士たちは魔法陣を描きながらも、しかし魔弾を撃つことはない。 撃 てば先程同様、 <血界門> にて別次元に飛ばされ、 そして奴らのもとへ 「けっかいもん 返される。

"The Red Blood Demon Spear, the secret of the secret is four..."

A huge blood gate will appear there. It is even larger and more powerful than before.

Having gone through battles in various worlds and having studied hard, the Pluto King's ability has increased by several orders of magnitude compared to when he was in the world of Militia. As he said, no matter how the enemy may be the proud abyssal army of the magic bullet world of Eresia, he will not fall behind a small army.

The blood gate "<One blood gate> !"

The gates of blood are opened.

The moment dozens of magic bullets fired by the soldiers passed through it, they were swallowed by the dimension and disappeared.

The next moment, the magic bullets appear at the spot where they are positioned.

"Damn ------!!!"

The moment they noticed, the magic bullet exploded.

"Ugh, Nuptu------ ! ! !"

"Dimensional magic user. ・・・・・・"

The soldiers, although they cannot use the same level of anti-magic as the captains, are still at a very high level.

"Come, all the forces of the abyss!"

Sitting down, Eges silently readied his pathetique.

The soldiers draw a magic circle, but do not shoot magic bullets. If they do, they will be sent to another dimension at the Blood Realm Gate, and then they will be returned to them.
しばらくすると、 寝息が聞こえてきた。

エレネシアがその神眼で深淵を覗くも、 本当に寝入ってしまっている ようだった。

不可解に思いながらも、 彼女はムトーを起こさないように気をつけな フレス がらく飛行>で飛び上がり、 その場を離れた。

追ってくるかとエレネシアは警戒したが、 ムトーが起きる気配はない。

しばらく空を飛び続け、 安全圏まで離れたところで着地した。 彼女は ほっと胸を撫で下ろす。

「言い忘れたんだけど、自由にしていいのは逃げること以外の話だから 「ね」

聞こえるはずのないムトーの声を耳にし、 エレネシアは振り返った。

次の瞬間、彼女はマングローブの木の上にいた。

ほったて小屋がある。 ムトーのねぐらだ。 突然の出来事にエレネシアはなにが起きたのかさえわからなかった。

「・・・・・・なにをしたの?」

「なにって」

ムトーは不思議そうな顔をする。 説明するまでもないと言いたげであった。

「君が逃げたから、 追いかけて連れ戻した」

安全圏まで逃げたと思っていたエレネシアを一瞬で捕捉し、追いつ き抱えてここまで運んだのだ。

あまりにも、力の次元が違いすぎる。
だからこそ、彼は人質であるエレネシアを放って眠りについたのだろう。

After a while, she could hear him breathing in his sleep.

When Elenesia looked into the abyss with her divine eyes, she seemed to have truly fallen asleep.

Inexplicably, she was careful not to wake MUTO as she leapt up and away from him.

Elenesia was alarmed, wondering if he was following her, but there was no sign of MUTO waking up.

She often flew through the air and landed in a safe distance away. She patted her chest in relief.

"I forgot to mention that the only thing you're free to do is run away."

Hearing MUTO's voice, which she couldn't have heard, Elenesia turned around.

The next thing she knew, she was in a mangrove tree.

There is a hotchpotch hut. It was MUTO's hideout. Suddenly, Elenesia did not even know what had happened.

"...... What did you do?"

"what exactly?"

MUTO looked at me strangely. He seemed to want to say that he didn't need to explain.

"You ran away, so I chased you and brought you back".

In an instant, he had caught up with Elenesia, who had thought she had fled to a safe distance, and carried her back here.

It is too much, too different a dimension of power.
That is probably why he let go of his hostage, Elenesia, and went to sleep....
「この程度の弾丸ではイレギュラーになりはせんよ、 元首アノス」

「ふむ。 力を見せればいいのか?」

地面を蹴り、 間合いに踏み込む。

「話が早い」

<深源死殺> の拳を奴の土手っ腹にぶち込む。 ジジの体は僅かに浮い たが、この魔弾世界の秩序では薄皮一枚傷つけることができぬ。

「効かんよ。 我が世界の理がまだ理解できんか」

「なにを言っている?」

拳を開く。 終末の火が煌々と燃えていた。

ベブズド エギルグローネ・アングドロア <深源死殺> と同時に発動した<極獄界滅灰燼魔砲> を握り込み、隠 していたのだ。

魔弾を放とうとしていたジジは、 咄嗟に反魔法に切り替える。

直後、 終末の火が奴の体を飲み込んだ。

「俺が未だこの世界に適応できぬと思っているなら、 深淵総軍の分析と やらも大したことはない」

俺の背後に、魔法陣の砲塔がずらりと並ぶ。

その数は十と四。
すべての砲塔から黒き粒子が立ち上り、 七重の螺旋 を描く。

"A bullet of this magnitude will not make you an irregularity, Headman Anos."

"Hmm. Show of force?"

Kicking the ground, he steps into the gap.

"Fast talker."

 I put <Deep Source Death Killer>fist into his stomach. Gigi's body floated slightly, but in the order of this magic bullet world, not even a thin layer of skin could be harmed.

"It won't work. You still don't understand the logic of my world, do you?"

"What are you talking about?"

He opens his fist. The fire of the apocalypse was burning brightly.

Bevsd Egilgurone Angudoroa, who had activated it at the same time as the <Death Killer of the Deep Source>, was clutching and concealing the <Glossed Ash Ember Cannon of the Extreme Hell World>.

Gigi, who was about to release a magic bullet, quickly switched to anti-magic.

Immediately after, the fire of the apocalypse engulfed his body.

"If you still think I can't adapt to this world, then the analysis of the Abyssal General's army and all that doesn't help much."

Behind me, a row of magic turrets line up.

The number is ten and four.
Black particles rise from all the turrets and form a sevenfold spiral.
銀水聖海は広い。

 果てしなく広大だ。

 自らの世界にならくまなく行き届いた彼女の神眼めをもってすら、その全貌を予想することさえできない。

 その果てしなさは、彼女には平和までの距離に感じられた。

 どれだけ平和を求めても、そこには永遠にたどり着けない。そんな風に思えてしまうほどに、この銀海は果てしない。

The silver water sacred sea is wide.

 It is endlessly vast.

 Even with her God's eye, which is well penetrated throughout her own world, she is unable to predict the whole picture.

Its endlessness felt to her like a distance to peace.

 No matter how much we seek peace, we will never get there. This silver sea is so endless that it seems that way.
残り二本の血槍はそのまままっすぐ、 陣形中央にて氷の世界を狙う二 人に迫った。

「想定内だ」

魔法障壁にてそれを受け止めたのが、 前方に展開していた二名の隊長、ネロとコルクスである。 血槍が左翼、 右翼に回り込んだときからこの状況を想定に入れ、下がり気味になっていたのだろう。

ベレニツィア・ノイン 「「<魔深流失波濤砲>」」

二本の銃砲に夥しい魔力が集中する。 氷の世界めがけて、 青き魔弾が 発射された。

だが直後、 その二つの魔弾が骨の槍に貫かれ、大爆発を引き起こし た。九番隊隊長レゲロ、 十番隊隊長ビリジアはその爆炎に飲み込まれ る。

イージェスの魔槍に間合いはない。

緋髄愴ディルフィンシュテインの穂先が、 次元を超えて奴らの銃口を 貫いたのだ。

ベレニツィア・ノイン 魔槍で致命傷を与えるのは難しい。 イージェスは<魔深流失波濤砲> を奴らの至近距離にて爆発させる手を狙っていたのだ。

血槍にてそれを撃たせぬように立ち回ったのも、 奴らの油断を誘う策 の一つ。

撃つことができれば勝てると思わせ、 その実、撃った瞬間の魔弾を貫 く算段だったのだ。

「槍だからと油断しすぎよ。 ここが魔弾世界でなければ、とうの昔に全 員串刺しだ」

隻眼を光らせ、 イージェスが言った。

The remaining two blood spears went straight for the two men in the center of the formation who were aiming at the ice world.

"As expected."

The two captains deployed in front of them, Nero and Corkus, caught them with their magical barriers. They must have anticipated this situation from the time the blood lances circled their left and right flanks, and were on the verge of falling back.

Berenizia Noyne: "<Magic Deep-Spouting Wave Cannon>"

A great deal of magical power is concentrated in the two guns. Blue magic bullets were fired at the ice world.

Immediately afterwards, however, the two magic bullets were pierced by the bone spears, causing a huge explosion. Captain Leggero of the Ninth and Captain Viridia of the Tenth were swallowed by the explosion.

There was no time for the magic spear of Eges.

The tip of the Dirfinstain pathetic scarlet pith pierced through their muzzle, transcending dimensions.

Berenizia Noin: It is difficult to inflict a mortal wound with a magic spear. Eges was aiming to detonate a <Magic Deep Melt Wave Cannon> at close range of them.

The fact that he used the blood lance to prevent them from firing it was one of his strategies to make them let their guard down.

He wanted them to think that they could win if they could shoot, but in fact, he was planning to penetrate the magic bullet at the moment of shooting.

"You're too careless just because it's a spear. If this were not the world of magic bullets, they would have skewered everyone long ago."

With a gleam in his eye, Eges said.
「「「<魔深流失波濤砲>」」」

四つの銃砲から、 青き魔弾が放たれる。

「ぬるい」

一呼吸の間に、 四連突き。 次元を越えたディルフィンシュテインが、 発射直後の青き魔弾を貫いた。

だが、爆発は起こらない。

ベレニツィア・ノイン

<魔深流失波濤砲>に似せたフェイクの魔弾だ。

ビリジアは銃砲を捨て、 魔槍の穂先をわしづかみにした。 どれだけ次 元を超えようと、 その穂先とイージェスの手にしている魔槍はつながっ ている。 そのまま、 力任せに、 奴はディルフィンシュテインを押さえつ ける。

「武器を捨てて投降すれば、 命は保証する」

ベレニツィア・ノイン 残り三人の隊長が、 <魔深流失波濤砲>の銃口を氷の世界に向けた。 イージェスは槍を手放そうとはしない。

それを返答と受け取り、容赦なく青き魔弾が発射された。

「ぬるいと言うたはずだ」

槍を押さえつけようとするビリジアの力を巧みに利用し、 槍術の技で もってイージェスは奴の体をよろめかせる。

瞬間、 イージェスはつかまっているビリジアごと槍の穂先を次元の彼 方に移動させ、放たれた青き三つの魔弾を連続で突いた。

ベレニツィア・ノイン 当然、 穂先をつかんでいるビリジアは<魔深流失波濤砲に直撃する ことになる。

ゴルロム 奴は<魔弾防壁>を展開してそれを防ぐ。

The "<Magic Deep-Spouting Wave Cannon>"

Blue magic bullets are released from the four cannons.

"Lukewarm."

In the space of a single breath, four consecutive thrusts. The dimension-crossing Dilfinschtein pierced the blue magic bullet immediately after it was fired.

However, no explosion occurs.

Berenizia Noin

It was a fake magic bullet, similar to the <Magic Deep Flow Wave Cannon>.

Viridia drops her gun and grabs the tip of the magic spear. No matter how many dimensions he crosses, the spearhead is still connected to the magic spear in Eges hand. With a mighty, uncontrollable grip, he seizes Dilfinnshtein.

"Lay down your arms and surrender, and I will spare your life."

Berenizia Noin, the three remaining captains point the muzzle of their "Magic Profound Wave Cannon" at the icy world. Eges would not let go of his spear.

Taking this as a response, a blue magic bullet was fired without mercy.

"I told you it was too lukewarm."

By skillfully utilizing the power of Viridia's attempts to hold the spear, and with a spear technique, Eges staggers his body.

A moment later, Eges moved the tip of his spear, along with the viridia he was holding on to, beyond the dimension, and struck three blue magic bullets in rapid succession.

Naturally, the viridia that is grabbing the tip of the spear will be directly hit by the <Magic Profusion Wave Cannon>.

Gorlom: He deploys his <Magic Bulletproof Wall> to prevent it.
「おあいにくさま」

サーシャの声が響く。

瞳に浮かんでいるのは、 <理滅の魔眼>。

彼女の手には理滅剣ヴェヌズドノアが握られていた。

その発動には時間がかかる。
魔弾でとどめをさせと冥王が言ったの は、 彼女が理滅剣を使うのを隠すためだ。

「魔弾世界だからって、 槍が刺さらないと思ったかしら?」

魔弾世界の秩序が、次第に理滅剣によって滅ぼされ始めた。 彼女の 魔眼の届く範囲は最早、 奴らの領域ではない。

一瞬の戸惑いを見逃さず、サーシャは地面を蹴った。

「槍は回避。 まず男から確実に倒す」

首を貫かれながらも、 ビリジアがそう指示を飛ばす。

ソネイド 三名の隊長は<銀界魔弾> の大砲をイージェスに向けた。

「緋髄愴、 秘奥が壱―」

ビリジアから穂先が抜かれ、 イージェスの魔槍が閃く。

彼が静かに構えをとったかに思えた次の瞬間、 隊長の三名の腕がく 銀界魔弾>の大砲ごと、ぼとりと落ちる。 ソネイドその胸には、大きな穴が空いていた。

せんが 「一<閃牙>」

がっくりと三名の隊長が崩れ落ちる。 魔槍で穿った、 深い傷だ。 根源にまで及んでいる。

「言うたはずだ。 ここが魔弾世界でなければ、とうの昔に全員串刺し よ」

"Sorry to bother you."

Sasha's voice echoes.

Floating in her eyes is a <The magical eye of reason destruction>.

In her hand was Venuzdonor, the sword of destruction.

It takes time to activate it.
The reason the Dark Lord told her to finish him off with a magic bullet was to hide her use of the Sword of Destruction.

"Did you think that just because it's a magic bullet world, the spear wouldn't pierce?"

The order in the world of magic bullets has gradually begun to be destroyed by the Rishonen. The range of her magical eye is no longer their domain.

Not missing a moment of confusion, Sasha kicked the ground.

"Avoid spears. Make sure to take down the man first."

While being pierced through the neck, Viridia sends out such instructions.

Sonaid The three captains pointed the cannon of the <Silver World Magic Bullet> at Eges.

"The Scarlet Medallion, the Secret of the One..."

The tip of the spear is pulled out of the viridia, and the magic spear of Eges flashes.

The next moment, when it seemed that he had quietly taken a stance, the arms of the three captains fell off with the cannon of the Silver World Magic Bullet. A large hole was left in his chest.

A Spectacular "Fang"

The three captains fall to the ground. They have deep wounds, pierced by magic spears. It goes all the way to the root.

"I told you. If this were not the world of magic bullets, we would have all been skewered long ago."
 
I not talking about chrono, i talking about ultima's statament

And i dont think is infinite^infinite universes
It because there are infinite timelines for each ‘moment’ in which a continuum(past,present and future) would lead to something g like infinite^infinite universes. It been a while since I watch the VN series. Had been 3 years, I guess? There might be something I mistaken so I think it might be better asking Shadow And Celestial Pegasus about it.

about Ultima’s statement. I don’t really disagree with it but there are many opposition to it.
 
It because there are infinite timelines for each ‘moment’ in which a continuum(past,present and future) would lead to something g like infinite^infinite universes. It been a while since I watch the VN series. Had been 3 years, I guess? There might be something I mistaken so I think it might be better asking Shadow And Celestial Pegasus about it.

about Ultima’s statement. I don’t really disagree with it but there are many opposition to it.
Well everything in Bubble there are countless past and futures
 
SS has an endless/infinite size, the latter contains 99+ layers that have an infinite size and by the author's words are more than 99+ and if we use the reason of the layers being able to contain up to infinite universes when only countless is mentioned, we could say that the SS could contain up to infinite layers. So we have a vastly infinite structure (SS) that has 99+ (possibly infinite) layers of infinite size, which in turn each layer has up to infinite worlds (and most likely each world has countless worlds in it). ***without forgetting the possible difference in dimensionality that exists between the layers and also the SS to contain them must be something that even surpasses the layers themselves.
And what contain in the layer also has infinite in size
 
まん 「紅血魔槍、 秘奥が肆――」

巨大な血の門がそこに出現する。 それはこれまでもよりも更に大き く、そして強力な魔力を秘めている。

多様な世界での戦闘を経て、 研鑽を積んだことにより、 ミリティア世 界にいたときよりも冥王の実力は数段増している。 その言葉通り、いかに敵が魔弾世界エレネシアが誇る深淵総軍といえど、雑兵如きには後れをとるまい。

けっかいもん 「一<血界門> !」

血の門が開かれる。

兵士たちの放った数十発もの魔弾がそこをくぐった瞬間、 次元に飲ま れて消えた。

次の瞬間、 その魔弾は奴らが布陣を敷くその場所に出現する。

「くっ······!!」

奴らが気がついた瞬間、 魔弾は爆発した。

「ぐっ、ぬうつ······ ! ! 」

「次元術式の使い手か・・・・・・」

隊長クラスほどの反魔法は使えぬものの、それでも兵士たちもかなり のレベルだ。 <血界門>にて返された魔弾を直撃した者もいるが、 軽傷 けっかいもん である。

「くるがよい、 深淵総軍」

腰を落とし、 イージェスは静かに魔愴を構えた。

兵士たちは魔法陣を描きながらも、しかし魔弾を撃つことはない。 撃 てば先程同様、 <血界門> にて別次元に飛ばされ、 そして奴らのもとへ 「けっかいもん 返される。

"The Red Blood Demon Spear, the secret of the secret is four..."

A huge blood gate will appear there. It is even larger and more powerful than before.

Having gone through battles in various worlds and having studied hard, the Pluto King's ability has increased by several orders of magnitude compared to when he was in the world of Militia. As he said, no matter how the enemy may be the proud abyssal army of the magic bullet world of Eresia, he will not fall behind a small army.

The blood gate "<One blood gate> !"

The gates of blood are opened.

The moment dozens of magic bullets fired by the soldiers passed through it, they were swallowed by the dimension and disappeared.

The next moment, the magic bullets appear at the spot where they are positioned.

"Damn ------!!!"

The moment they noticed, the magic bullet exploded.

"Ugh, Nuptu------ ! ! !"

"Dimensional magic user. ・・・・・・"

The soldiers, although they cannot use the same level of anti-magic as the captains, are still at a very high level.

"Come, all the forces of the abyss!"

Sitting down, Eges silently readied his pathetique.

The soldiers draw a magic circle, but do not shoot magic bullets. If they do, they will be sent to another dimension at the Blood Realm Gate, and then they will be returned to them.
しばらくすると、 寝息が聞こえてきた。

エレネシアがその神眼で深淵を覗くも、 本当に寝入ってしまっている ようだった。

不可解に思いながらも、 彼女はムトーを起こさないように気をつけな フレス がらく飛行>で飛び上がり、 その場を離れた。

追ってくるかとエレネシアは警戒したが、 ムトーが起きる気配はない。

しばらく空を飛び続け、 安全圏まで離れたところで着地した。 彼女は ほっと胸を撫で下ろす。

「言い忘れたんだけど、自由にしていいのは逃げること以外の話だから 「ね」

聞こえるはずのないムトーの声を耳にし、 エレネシアは振り返った。

次の瞬間、彼女はマングローブの木の上にいた。

ほったて小屋がある。 ムトーのねぐらだ。 突然の出来事にエレネシアはなにが起きたのかさえわからなかった。

「・・・・・・なにをしたの?」

「なにって」

ムトーは不思議そうな顔をする。 説明するまでもないと言いたげであった。

「君が逃げたから、 追いかけて連れ戻した」

安全圏まで逃げたと思っていたエレネシアを一瞬で捕捉し、追いつ き抱えてここまで運んだのだ。

あまりにも、力の次元が違いすぎる。
だからこそ、彼は人質であるエレネシアを放って眠りについたのだろう。

After a while, she could hear him breathing in his sleep.

When Elenesia looked into the abyss with her divine eyes, she seemed to have truly fallen asleep.

Inexplicably, she was careful not to wake MUTO as she leapt up and away from him.

Elenesia was alarmed, wondering if he was following her, but there was no sign of MUTO waking up.

She often flew through the air and landed in a safe distance away. She patted her chest in relief.

"I forgot to mention that the only thing you're free to do is run away."

Hearing MUTO's voice, which she couldn't have heard, Elenesia turned around.

The next thing she knew, she was in a mangrove tree.

There is a hotchpotch hut. It was MUTO's hideout. Suddenly, Elenesia did not even know what had happened.

"...... What did you do?"

"what exactly?"

MUTO looked at me strangely. He seemed to want to say that he didn't need to explain.

"You ran away, so I chased you and brought you back".

In an instant, he had caught up with Elenesia, who had thought she had fled to a safe distance, and carried her back here.

It is too much, too different a dimension of power.
That is probably why he let go of his hostage, Elenesia, and went to sleep....
「この程度の弾丸ではイレギュラーになりはせんよ、 元首アノス」

「ふむ。 力を見せればいいのか?」

地面を蹴り、 間合いに踏み込む。

「話が早い」

<深源死殺> の拳を奴の土手っ腹にぶち込む。 ジジの体は僅かに浮い たが、この魔弾世界の秩序では薄皮一枚傷つけることができぬ。

「効かんよ。 我が世界の理がまだ理解できんか」

「なにを言っている?」

拳を開く。 終末の火が煌々と燃えていた。

ベブズド エギルグローネ・アングドロア <深源死殺> と同時に発動した<極獄界滅灰燼魔砲> を握り込み、隠 していたのだ。

魔弾を放とうとしていたジジは、 咄嗟に反魔法に切り替える。

直後、 終末の火が奴の体を飲み込んだ。

「俺が未だこの世界に適応できぬと思っているなら、 深淵総軍の分析と やらも大したことはない」

俺の背後に、魔法陣の砲塔がずらりと並ぶ。

その数は十と四。
すべての砲塔から黒き粒子が立ち上り、 七重の螺旋 を描く。

"A bullet of this magnitude will not make you an irregularity, Headman Anos."

"Hmm. Show of force?"

Kicking the ground, he steps into the gap.

"Fast talker."

 I put <Deep Source Death Killer>fist into his stomach. Gigi's body floated slightly, but in the order of this magic bullet world, not even a thin layer of skin could be harmed.

"It won't work. You still don't understand the logic of my world, do you?"

"What are you talking about?"

He opens his fist. The fire of the apocalypse was burning brightly.

Bevsd Egilgurone Angudoroa, who had activated it at the same time as the <Death Killer of the Deep Source>, was clutching and concealing the <Glossed Ash Ember Cannon of the Extreme Hell World>.

Gigi, who was about to release a magic bullet, quickly switched to anti-magic.

Immediately after, the fire of the apocalypse engulfed his body.

"If you still think I can't adapt to this world, then the analysis of the Abyssal General's army and all that doesn't help much."

Behind me, a row of magic turrets line up.

The number is ten and four.
Black particles rise from all the turrets and form a sevenfold spiral.
銀水聖海は広い。

 果てしなく広大だ。

 自らの世界にならくまなく行き届いた彼女の神眼めをもってすら、その全貌を予想することさえできない。

 その果てしなさは、彼女には平和までの距離に感じられた。

 どれだけ平和を求めても、そこには永遠にたどり着けない。そんな風に思えてしまうほどに、この銀海は果てしない。

The silver water sacred sea is wide.

 It is endlessly vast.

 Even with her God's eye, which is well penetrated throughout her own world, she is unable to predict the whole picture.

Its endlessness felt to her like a distance to peace.

 No matter how much we seek peace, we will never get there. This silver sea is so endless that it seems that way.
残り二本の血槍はそのまままっすぐ、 陣形中央にて氷の世界を狙う二 人に迫った。

「想定内だ」

魔法障壁にてそれを受け止めたのが、 前方に展開していた二名の隊長、ネロとコルクスである。 血槍が左翼、 右翼に回り込んだときからこの状況を想定に入れ、下がり気味になっていたのだろう。

ベレニツィア・ノイン 「「<魔深流失波濤砲>」」

二本の銃砲に夥しい魔力が集中する。 氷の世界めがけて、 青き魔弾が 発射された。

だが直後、 その二つの魔弾が骨の槍に貫かれ、大爆発を引き起こし た。九番隊隊長レゲロ、 十番隊隊長ビリジアはその爆炎に飲み込まれ る。

イージェスの魔槍に間合いはない。

緋髄愴ディルフィンシュテインの穂先が、 次元を超えて奴らの銃口を 貫いたのだ。

ベレニツィア・ノイン 魔槍で致命傷を与えるのは難しい。 イージェスは<魔深流失波濤砲> を奴らの至近距離にて爆発させる手を狙っていたのだ。

血槍にてそれを撃たせぬように立ち回ったのも、 奴らの油断を誘う策 の一つ。

撃つことができれば勝てると思わせ、 その実、撃った瞬間の魔弾を貫 く算段だったのだ。

「槍だからと油断しすぎよ。 ここが魔弾世界でなければ、とうの昔に全 員串刺しだ」

隻眼を光らせ、 イージェスが言った。

The remaining two blood spears went straight for the two men in the center of the formation who were aiming at the ice world.

"As expected."

The two captains deployed in front of them, Nero and Corkus, caught them with their magical barriers. They must have anticipated this situation from the time the blood lances circled their left and right flanks, and were on the verge of falling back.

Berenizia Noyne: "<Magic Deep-Spouting Wave Cannon>"

A great deal of magical power is concentrated in the two guns. Blue magic bullets were fired at the ice world.

Immediately afterwards, however, the two magic bullets were pierced by the bone spears, causing a huge explosion. Captain Leggero of the Ninth and Captain Viridia of the Tenth were swallowed by the explosion.

There was no time for the magic spear of Eges.

The tip of the Dirfinstain pathetic scarlet pith pierced through their muzzle, transcending dimensions.

Berenizia Noin: It is difficult to inflict a mortal wound with a magic spear. Eges was aiming to detonate a <Magic Deep Melt Wave Cannon> at close range of them.

The fact that he used the blood lance to prevent them from firing it was one of his strategies to make them let their guard down.

He wanted them to think that they could win if they could shoot, but in fact, he was planning to penetrate the magic bullet at the moment of shooting.

"You're too careless just because it's a spear. If this were not the world of magic bullets, they would have skewered everyone long ago."

With a gleam in his eye, Eges said.
「「「<魔深流失波濤砲>」」」

四つの銃砲から、 青き魔弾が放たれる。

「ぬるい」

一呼吸の間に、 四連突き。 次元を越えたディルフィンシュテインが、 発射直後の青き魔弾を貫いた。

だが、爆発は起こらない。

ベレニツィア・ノイン

<魔深流失波濤砲>に似せたフェイクの魔弾だ。

ビリジアは銃砲を捨て、 魔槍の穂先をわしづかみにした。 どれだけ次 元を超えようと、 その穂先とイージェスの手にしている魔槍はつながっ ている。 そのまま、 力任せに、 奴はディルフィンシュテインを押さえつ ける。

「武器を捨てて投降すれば、 命は保証する」

ベレニツィア・ノイン 残り三人の隊長が、 <魔深流失波濤砲>の銃口を氷の世界に向けた。 イージェスは槍を手放そうとはしない。

それを返答と受け取り、容赦なく青き魔弾が発射された。

「ぬるいと言うたはずだ」

槍を押さえつけようとするビリジアの力を巧みに利用し、 槍術の技で もってイージェスは奴の体をよろめかせる。

瞬間、 イージェスはつかまっているビリジアごと槍の穂先を次元の彼 方に移動させ、放たれた青き三つの魔弾を連続で突いた。

ベレニツィア・ノイン 当然、 穂先をつかんでいるビリジアは<魔深流失波濤砲に直撃する ことになる。

ゴルロム 奴は<魔弾防壁>を展開してそれを防ぐ。

The "<Magic Deep-Spouting Wave Cannon>"

Blue magic bullets are released from the four cannons.

"Lukewarm."

In the space of a single breath, four consecutive thrusts. The dimension-crossing Dilfinschtein pierced the blue magic bullet immediately after it was fired.

However, no explosion occurs.

Berenizia Noin

It was a fake magic bullet, similar to the <Magic Deep Flow Wave Cannon>.

Viridia drops her gun and grabs the tip of the magic spear. No matter how many dimensions he crosses, the spearhead is still connected to the magic spear in Eges hand. With a mighty, uncontrollable grip, he seizes Dilfinnshtein.

"Lay down your arms and surrender, and I will spare your life."

Berenizia Noin, the three remaining captains point the muzzle of their "Magic Profound Wave Cannon" at the icy world. Eges would not let go of his spear.

Taking this as a response, a blue magic bullet was fired without mercy.

"I told you it was too lukewarm."

By skillfully utilizing the power of Viridia's attempts to hold the spear, and with a spear technique, Eges staggers his body.

A moment later, Eges moved the tip of his spear, along with the viridia he was holding on to, beyond the dimension, and struck three blue magic bullets in rapid succession.

Naturally, the viridia that is grabbing the tip of the spear will be directly hit by the <Magic Profusion Wave Cannon>.

Gorlom: He deploys his <Magic Bulletproof Wall> to prevent it.
「おあいにくさま」

サーシャの声が響く。

瞳に浮かんでいるのは、 <理滅の魔眼>。

彼女の手には理滅剣ヴェヌズドノアが握られていた。

その発動には時間がかかる。
魔弾でとどめをさせと冥王が言ったの は、 彼女が理滅剣を使うのを隠すためだ。

「魔弾世界だからって、 槍が刺さらないと思ったかしら?」

魔弾世界の秩序が、次第に理滅剣によって滅ぼされ始めた。 彼女の 魔眼の届く範囲は最早、 奴らの領域ではない。

一瞬の戸惑いを見逃さず、サーシャは地面を蹴った。

「槍は回避。 まず男から確実に倒す」

首を貫かれながらも、 ビリジアがそう指示を飛ばす。

ソネイド 三名の隊長は<銀界魔弾> の大砲をイージェスに向けた。

「緋髄愴、 秘奥が壱―」

ビリジアから穂先が抜かれ、 イージェスの魔槍が閃く。

彼が静かに構えをとったかに思えた次の瞬間、 隊長の三名の腕がく 銀界魔弾>の大砲ごと、ぼとりと落ちる。 ソネイドその胸には、大きな穴が空いていた。

せんが 「一<閃牙>」

がっくりと三名の隊長が崩れ落ちる。 魔槍で穿った、 深い傷だ。 根源にまで及んでいる。

「言うたはずだ。 ここが魔弾世界でなければ、とうの昔に全員串刺し よ」

"Sorry to bother you."

Sasha's voice echoes.

Floating in her eyes is a <The magical eye of reason destruction>.

In her hand was Venuzdonor, the sword of destruction.

It takes time to activate it.
The reason the Dark Lord told her to finish him off with a magic bullet was to hide her use of the Sword of Destruction.

"Did you think that just because it's a magic bullet world, the spear wouldn't pierce?"

The order in the world of magic bullets has gradually begun to be destroyed by the Rishonen. The range of her magical eye is no longer their domain.

Not missing a moment of confusion, Sasha kicked the ground.

"Avoid spears. Make sure to take down the man first."

While being pierced through the neck, Viridia sends out such instructions.

Sonaid The three captains pointed the cannon of the <Silver World Magic Bullet> at Eges.

"The Scarlet Medallion, the Secret of the One..."

The tip of the spear is pulled out of the viridia, and the magic spear of Eges flashes.

The next moment, when it seemed that he had quietly taken a stance, the arms of the three captains fell off with the cannon of the Silver World Magic Bullet. A large hole was left in his chest.

A Spectacular "Fang"

The three captains fall to the ground. They have deep wounds, pierced by magic spears. It goes all the way to the root.

"I told you. If this were not the world of magic bullets, we would have all been skewered long ago."
Had free time just translated few chapters
 
Hey i got better idea than make silver sea a low 1C structure

Lets make the bubble or at least the layer is low 1C structure (5D)

I read the brane cosmology theory, and i found if the universe(4D structure) is being subspace in the bigger universe, it can make the universe is higher dimension

And the santuaries (4D universe structure) is only a microcosm or a subscape in the bubble. Clarify by misha statement that space in the militia world is not uniform but distorted, i think is distorted because there is many subspace (santuary) in that world
Well, yeah. But technically it made the Sea 4D space. Similar case to Sea in ID and KH. I won’t be arguing about the sanctuaries. Edited: If you can make get bubble 5D then okay.
 
Chronos Clock only got Low 1-C because there is a statement that implies she is actually bigger than a 2-A structure.

Yes, the SS contains all those 2-A layers inside, but without a statement that it is bigger it wont be Low 1-C, as counterintuitive as that may be.
 
Huh, so a vastly infinite structure that can contain from 99+ to possibly/theoretically up to infinite layers doesn't make it bigger than other structures? Kay
 
Chronos Clock only got Low 1-C because there is a statement that implies she is actually bigger than a 2-A structure.

Yes, the SS contains all those 2-A layers inside, but without a statement that it is bigger it wont be Low 1-C, as counterintuitive as that may be.
I mean, that is immposible for a smaller thing contain bigger thing
 
銀水聖海は広い。
 果てしなく広大だ。
 自らの世界にならくまなく行き届いた彼女の神眼めをもってすら、その全貌を予想することさえできない。
 その果てしなさは、彼女には平和までの距離に感じられた。
 どれだけ平和を求めても、そこには永遠にたどり着けない。そんな風に思えてしまうほどに、この銀海は果てしない。

The silver water sacred sea is wide.
 It is endlessly vast.
 Even with her God's eye, which is well penetrated throughout her own world, she is unable to predict the whole picture.
Its endlessness felt to her like a distance to peace.
 No matter how much we seek peace, we will never get there. This silver sea is so endless that it seems that way.

😴😴😴

Hey form this statement i think we can argue SS is bigger than the layer. Because elenesia can see militia world use her eyes, that militia world is in layer 0 and elenesia in layer 99, its mean elenesia can see across 2A structure. But elenesia says that she can see the whole silver sea, its mean silver sea is larger than what its contain

Even i dont know the logic, why must stated "larger" "bigger"
 
What do you mean Infinite infinities here? Infinite x infinite or infinite^Infinite?
SS has an endless/infinite size, the latter contains 99+ layers that have an infinite size and by the author's words are more than 99+ and if we use the reason of the layers being able to contain up to infinite universes when only countless is mentioned, we could say that the SS could contain up to infinite layers. So we have a vastly infinite structure (SS) that has 99+ (possibly infinite) layers of infinite size, which in turn each layer has up to infinite worlds (and most likely each world has countless worlds in it). ***without forgetting the possible difference in dimensionality that exists between the layers and also the SS to contain them must be something that even surpasses the layers themselves.
Huh, so a vastly infinite structure that can contain from 99+ to possibly/theoretically up to infinite layers doesn't make it bigger than other structures? Kay
 
Hey form this statement i think we can argue SS is bigger than the layer. Because elenesia can see militia world use her eyes, that militia world is in layer 0 and elenesia in layer 99, its mean elenesia can see across 2A structure. But elenesia says that she can see the whole silver sea, its mean silver sea is larger than what its contain

Even i dont know the logic, why must stated "larger" "bigger"
I mean a bubble is infinite in size and Every creator God can see whole bubble structure without any problem but Silver Sea is endless. Yeah it bigger than infinite but still infinite.
しばらくすると、 寝息が聞こえてきた。

エレネシアがその神眼で深淵を覗くも、 本当に寝入ってしまっている ようだった。

不可解に思いながらも、 彼女はムトーを起こさないように気をつけな フレス がらく飛行>で飛び上がり、 その場を離れた。

追ってくるかとエレネシアは警戒したが、 ムトーが起きる気配はない。

しばらく空を飛び続け、 安全圏まで離れたところで着地した。 彼女は ほっと胸を撫で下ろす。

「言い忘れたんだけど、自由にしていいのは逃げること以外の話だから 「ね」

聞こえるはずのないムトーの声を耳にし、 エレネシアは振り返った。

次の瞬間、彼女はマングローブの木の上にいた。

ほったて小屋がある。 ムトーのねぐらだ。 突然の出来事にエレネシアはなにが起きたのかさえわからなかった。

「・・・・・・なにをしたの?」

「なにって」

ムトーは不思議そうな顔をする。 説明するまでもないと言いたげであった。

「君が逃げたから、 追いかけて連れ戻した」

安全圏まで逃げたと思っていたエレネシアを一瞬で捕捉し、追いつ き抱えてここまで運んだのだ。

あまりにも、力の次元が違いすぎる。
だからこそ、彼は人質であるエレネシアを放って眠りについたのだろう。

After a while, she could hear him breathing in his sleep.

When Elenesia looked into the abyss with her divine eyes, she seemed to have truly fallen asleep.

Inexplicably, she was careful not to wake MUTO as she leapt up and away from him.

Elenesia was alarmed, wondering if he was following her, but there was no sign of MUTO waking up.

She often flew through the air and landed in a safe distance away. She patted her chest in relief.

"I forgot to mention that the only thing you're free to do is run away."

Hearing MUTO's voice, which she couldn't have heard, Elenesia turned around.

The next thing she knew, she was in a mangrove tree.

There is a hotchpotch hut. It was MUTO's hideout. Suddenly, Elenesia did not even know what had happened.

"...... What did you do?"

"what exactly?"

MUTO looked at me strangely. He seemed to want to say that he didn't need to explain.

"You ran away, so I chased you and brought you back".

In an instant, he had caught up with Elenesia, who had thought she had fled to a safe distance, and carried her back here.

It is too much, too different a dimension of power.
That is probably why he let go of his hostage, Elenesia, and went to sleep....
「この程度の弾丸ではイレギュラーになりはせんよ、 元首アノス」

「ふむ。 力を見せればいいのか?」

地面を蹴り、 間合いに踏み込む。

「話が早い」

<深源死殺> の拳を奴の土手っ腹にぶち込む。 ジジの体は僅かに浮い たが、この魔弾世界の秩序では薄皮一枚傷つけることができぬ。

「効かんよ。 我が世界の理がまだ理解できんか」

「なにを言っている?」

拳を開く。 終末の火が煌々と燃えていた。

ベブズド エギルグローネ・アングドロア <深源死殺> と同時に発動した<極獄界滅灰燼魔砲> を握り込み、隠 していたのだ。

魔弾を放とうとしていたジジは、 咄嗟に反魔法に切り替える。

直後、 終末の火が奴の体を飲み込んだ。

「俺が未だこの世界に適応できぬと思っているなら、 深淵総軍の分析と やらも大したことはない」

俺の背後に、魔法陣の砲塔がずらりと並ぶ。

その数は十と四。
すべての砲塔から黒き粒子が立ち上り、 七重の螺旋 を描く。

"A bullet of this magnitude will not make you an irregularity, Headman Anos."

"Hmm. Show of force?"

Kicking the ground, he steps into the gap.

"Fast talker."

 I put <Deep Source Death Killer>fist into his stomach. Gigi's body floated slightly, but in the order of this magic bullet world, not even a thin layer of skin could be harmed.

"It won't work. You still don't understand the logic of my world, do you?"

"What are you talking about?"

He opens his fist. The fire of the apocalypse was burning brightly.

Bevsd Egilgurone Angudoroa, who had activated it at the same time as the <Death Killer of the Deep Source>, was clutching and concealing the <Glossed Ash Ember Cannon of the Extreme Hell World>.

Gigi, who was about to release a magic bullet, quickly switched to anti-magic.

Immediately after, the fire of the apocalypse engulfed his body.

"If you still think I can't adapt to this world, then the analysis of the Abyssal General's army and all that doesn't help much."

Behind me, a row of magic turrets line up.

The number is ten and four.
Black particles rise from all the turrets and form a sevenfold spiral.
Pretty much layers being higher dimensional makes sense.

Or normal bubbles are 4D
Silver bubbles are 5-6D
 
Tbh, I don't feel good that a tier 1 upgrade is made at the moment, for me it would be better something related to trying again the 2-B world stuffs or the addition of some abilitiy, etc.... Since I'm a bit useless at tier 1 stuffs
 
Tbh, I don't feel good that a tier 1 upgrade is made at the moment, for me it would be better something related to trying again the 2-B world stuffs or the addition of some abilitiy, etc.... Since I'm a bit useless at tier 1 stuffs
Just collect some argument and proof for future
 
Just collect some argument and proof for future
I'm still a little surprised, whenever I read you guys talking about TD I just thought, Huh, they love to wank the verse, but it proved to have a good base that in the end I also supported although I had to correct some points and give some other possible end to the upgrade, but everything went as well as possible.
Plot manipulation 😴😴😴
Wank again?. Ngl, I am one of those who think that eques has the ability to manipulate the plot and that reason/logic is far above it, we already know that practically manipulating reason/logic in the verse is the strongest thing nowadays and those who are unbound by reason/logic even more so.
 
I'm still a little surprised, whenever I read you guys talking about TD I just thought, Huh, they love to wank the verse, but it proved to have a good base that in the end I also supported although I had to correct some points and give some other possible end to the upgrade, but everything went as well as possible.
Graham possible Acausality type 5
Wank again?. Ngl, I am one of those who think that eques has the ability to manipulate the plot and that reason/logic is far above it, we already know that practically manipulating reason/logic in the verse is the strongest thing nowadays and those who are unbound by reason/logic even more so.
Well yeah Order should be treated as plot. If you look at Graham POV he made few statement about different this world has different kinds set up what if a world exist where everything is reverse to this world and I came from there like that.

Well dilpred statement and NAFTA futures being ordered are few goon examples
 
しばらくすると、 寝息が聞こえてきた。

エレネシアがその神眼で深淵を覗くも、 本当に寝入ってしまっている ようだった。

不可解に思いながらも、 彼女はムトーを起こさないように気をつけな フレス がらく飛行>で飛び上がり、 その場を離れた。

追ってくるかとエレネシアは警戒したが、 ムトーが起きる気配はない。

しばらく空を飛び続け、 安全圏まで離れたところで着地した。 彼女は ほっと胸を撫で下ろす。

「言い忘れたんだけど、自由にしていいのは逃げること以外の話だから 「ね」

聞こえるはずのないムトーの声を耳にし、 エレネシアは振り返った。

次の瞬間、彼女はマングローブの木の上にいた。

ほったて小屋がある。 ムトーのねぐらだ。 突然の出来事にエレネシアはなにが起きたのかさえわからなかった。

「・・・・・・なにをしたの?」

「なにって」

ムトーは不思議そうな顔をする。 説明するまでもないと言いたげであった。

「君が逃げたから、 追いかけて連れ戻した」

安全圏まで逃げたと思っていたエレネシアを一瞬で捕捉し、追いつ き抱えてここまで運んだのだ。

あまりにも、力の次元が違いすぎる。
だからこそ、彼は人質であるエレネシアを放って眠りについたのだろう。

After a while, she could hear him breathing in his sleep.

When Elenesia looked into the abyss with her divine eyes, she seemed to have truly fallen asleep.

Inexplicably, she was careful not to wake MUTO as she leapt up and away from him.

Elenesia was alarmed, wondering if he was following her, but there was no sign of MUTO waking up.

She often flew through the air and landed in a safe distance away. She patted her chest in relief.

"I forgot to mention that the only thing you're free to do is run away."

Hearing MUTO's voice, which she couldn't have heard, Elenesia turned around.

The next thing she knew, she was in a mangrove tree.

There is a hotchpotch hut. It was MUTO's hideout. Suddenly, Elenesia did not even know what had happened.

"...... What did you do?"

"what exactly?"

MUTO looked at me strangely. He seemed to want to say that he didn't need to explain.

"You ran away, so I chased you and brought you back".

In an instant, he had caught up with Elenesia, who had thought she had fled to a safe distance, and carried her back here.

It is too much, too different a dimension of power.
That is probably why he let go of his hostage, Elenesia, and went to sleep....

This feat and statement is probably one of the better example for dimensionality for layers. Sorry for bad translation but that dimension thing is pretty much correct translation
Wiki would treat it as a hyperbole uses to describe the difference between them
 
Wiki would probably treat it as power null
Wiki would treat it as a hyperbole uses to describe the difference between them
Wiki will treat it as, wiki will treat it as.... Where does this negativity come from? If you have that attitude then you will never make a CRT because you think wiki will treat it as X thing, just look at the TD thread.
 
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