Chronos (Chrono Clock) Low 1-C?

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Chronos, for as far as I can recall has been considered massively above baseline 2-A because her size makes it that an infinite multiverse is too small for her to perceive. However, in particular with the change in 2-A standards where affecting multiple infinite multiverses isn’t considered a superior feat to affecting a single one, this feat probably needs to be looked at again.

Chrono Clock has infinitely branching timelines, which also expand infinitely in every direction with every moment in time existing simultaneously. Chronos is so large that in order to perceive all these timelines, she had to divide herself into smaller beings (that being Cro) to observe them.

Due to the nature of how Chronos is superior in sheer size to a 2-A multiverse, it sounds like she would actually qualify as being Low 1-C. The Tiering System FAQ states that a higher plane can qualify for tier 1 by perceiving lower realms as being fictional/unreality or encompassing them in a infinitesimal small portion of itself. Chronos does seem to fit this definition, particularly when the lower realm in question is an infinite multiverse.

 

[NIK_FARIS]

It’s been a while since I heard about the series. How about you discuss it with Celestialpegasus? If I am not mistaken, he the one that make the profile.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

It’s been a while since I heard about the series. How about you discuss it with Celestialpegasus? If I am not mistaken, he the one that make the profile.

I already messaged him on his wall right after posting this.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

I don't really have much to add, it's just a question of whether what is in the op is enough for Low 1-C.

If in every moment in time, an infinite number of universes exist, that's absurdly big isn't it, like infinite^infinite or something? And yet Chronos is larger, there is no reality-fiction going on here, so to qualify for Low 1-C Chronos would have to encompass them in a very small part of herself.

She perceives them as being too tiny to see, i guess that's enough, but need to call the tier 1 guys here to confirm.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I’ve also asked Ultima to comment on here.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Bump

 

[Hasty12345]

Does every moment in time result in a branching timeline?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Does every moment in time result in a branching timeline?

Yes, as Cro states to Rei that if her past and future versions were all connected, turning back time would only give the same result.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Gonna wait for Ultima but if this is solid then I fully agree with OP

 

[Hasty12345]

Yes, as Cro states to Rei that if her past and future versions were all connected, turning back time would only give the same result.

If time is continuous and every moment in time causes a timeline to branch, then there might be aleph1 timelines which iirc is a low 1-C cosmology

 

[Elizhaa]

Low 1-C seems like it would be fine, from the point in the OP.

 

[Delta333]

Sounds like low 1-C for me if she is bigger than 2-A, however I don't see the evidence for 2-A? Because this scan only says that the space time is an infinitely long branch rather than there are infinite amount of them.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Sounds like low 1-C for me if she is bigger than 2-A, however I don't see the evidence for 2-A? Because this scan only says that the space time is an infinitely long branch rather than there are infinite amount of them.

I’d understand the apparent confusion by that one, but this scan mentions the past and future versions of Rei being disconnected which would directly indicate different timelines (which there are infinite moments in time), also here Chronos can look freely into all possible worlds through a tiny peephole.

 

[Delta333]

Affecting infinite moments in time is something that every character with 4-D AP can do so I'm not sure why it's 2-A.

Why all possible worlds mean infinite amount of them?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Affecting infinite moments in time is something that every character with 4-D AP can do so I'm not sure why it's 2-A.

Why all possible worlds mean infinite amount of them?

Because these infinite moments in time are outright shown to exist as different timelines which means an infinite number of possible outcomes, therefore it’s a 2-A cosmology.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Bump

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

The statement about space-time being infinitely long comes about due to the characters discussing their timelines all being merged into 1 (due to Cro's power btw), that's why Cro was talking about timelines.

You can watch the scene at around 2 minutes here for more context, essentially Rei ended up with different girls in other timelines but in this one, where he eventually ends up with Cro, all the others timelines were existing at the same time, they all had memories of what happened in other timelines, but the current timeline was in a state of quantum supposition. And its when talking about this that Miu talks about space-time being infinitely long.

But even if you think this isn't enough, the Michiru route is pretty explicit about it. Can watch this here at about 28 minutes, basically Michuru as a child shows up in the present, to which Rei says that he never heard about Michiru going to the future, which he obviously would have if time was linear.

Cro confirms that time isn't linear, and her timeline differs from Rei's. And this is where the "time expands infinitely in every direction, and every moment in time exist simultaneous", comes from.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Bump

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Bump

 

[NIK_FARIS]

How many staff needed for approval again? Is it 3?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

More so I need staff who are knowledgeable with tier 1 (ex. Ultima).

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Bump

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Low 1-C sounds fine, if all of the qualifying factors are met, which they seem to in this case. As said before, there is no such thing being larger than a 2-A structure while still remaining 2-A yourself (Unless the verse establishes that this is possible somehow), so Chronos perceiving infinite timelines as so tiny she cannot perceive them fits that bill.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I suppose since Ultima agrees with Low 1-C, the changes can be applied.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Got the nod so I made the changes, this can now be closed.