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Mami Tomoe vs Bog

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Giving this to mami, he's got nothing she can't handle or never faced

Regen: check (also she has cross cuty wide sensing to locate eventual remains, and she can nuke again just in case)

Speed advantage: check (and one of her enemies had time accel on top of that)

Possession: messing with her body is not going to do much, mg can fight without any problem even if they don't have blood left in the body, implying severe brain damage

Durability negation: she always fights enemies who can oneshot her, also forcefields that block attacks that bypass forcefields

Also remember the sheer skill gap which is what gives her the win in my opinion, I mean just look at her feat section
 
Unless she takes out every last bit of him simultaneously, he will regenerate, even the smallest piece can allow him to regenerate completely

Bog has the speed advantage actually

Bog possessed Yupia, the opponent not having blood isnt an issue

Bog has taken down veteran fighters as well as people who can go toe to toe with some of the most skilled fighters in the verse
 
1,8 km wide AoE will do.

Bog definitely doesn't come close even close in skill
 
Nuking the area multiple times takes care of that

That's what i said, I was listing his abilities

If his possession is based on messing with her body it's not going to help, I doubt yupia can fight with her nervous system severely damaged or outright not working

That's nothing compared to her, who also defeated in a number disasvantage what was considered the strongest mg cause of her 7 years experience which is a lot fo magical girls, compared to mami's 1 year
 
Which isn't relevant when they aren't skilled as Mami is.

If you made 7-B Bog vs a 7-A clone (with a speed boost) who only gets part of his intelligence, would you say that he would take that battle with no issues?

Or, if you gave to someone like Yupia 12 years of prep in order to kill Bog, would you say that he would take that fight handily?

Because Mami did both when she defeated a superior clone of herself and when she defeated Homura
 
@RK Bog tanked an attack that is higher than Mami's AP without any damage and without needing to even regenerate, nuking the area wont do much.

Yupia is a cyborg, almost a full robot, she basically has no nervous system. And technically one of her abilities involves her fighting without any blood in her body.
 
>Mami is accepted in the 3-400 megatons

>Calc is 312 megatons

>Higher than Mami's AP

?
 
@Kal So just a faster but dumber Clone? Yes, i would, Hyun's Dojo characters regularly fight clones of themselves like that, its called the Immitator only it doesnt get an intelligence nerf.

Potentially yes
 
With continuous attack (some minutes of attacking) she can take down walpurgis, who is 6-C, it's the reason she was upgraded to 7-A in the first place

Ok, he still needs to get past her forcefield
 
No, a faster, slightly less smart clone that obliterates you with a finger flick because it curbstomp people who curbstomp you AP wise.

The speed boost is blitz worthy for the record

Based on?

Really? A 4% gap being relevant?
 
@Weekly

The clone isn't dumb, is directly controlled by the AoC which has the combined intelligence of Homura and all his victims, and it even had time stop
 
Why is Mami 7-A for damaging a 6-C anyway? We dont do chip damage here.

He can flood the battlefield with acid and create miniature clones that can ttack from different angles and blind spots,
 
AoC was incomplete so we don't know how smart it was.

Regardless anyone who can give Kyoko a run for her money in CQC needs to be pretty smart
 
@Kal Yes, thats what an Immitator is

Yes, a 4% gap is relevant when it means he would be able to tank her attacks with little issue and not even take enough damage that he would need to regenerate in the first place.
 
While being incomplete he created a perfect sayaka clone which clearly showed similar intelligence to her, it's safe to say he's at least that smart

>omnidirectional forcefield

>blind spots
 
Oh, another thing he can do should Mami actually manage to do significant damage to him, he can move as acidic vapor that allows him to reform his body around the opponent to simultaneously constrict and melt them.
 
That really doesn't look like vapor, more like Bog purposefully blowing himself up into droplets.

Btw, unless the effect of the acid is "you can't even notice that it touched you before having a hole in your body" fast, ribbons null that, as well.

Wings of Corrosion does just that and it gets negged
 
Btw, the thing about Mami vs Wal is, the statement in no way implies that they are comparable (also it would **** up the scaling if they were) but it says that she can still do something and that's already better than most people in the vetse.

What we have is:

Mami can do minor damage to a 6-C witch.

Mami dwarfs 7-Bs who are themselves stronger than 7-Bs who perform their feat just by being born.

Mami can one shot people whose durability is far above Ophelia's which is far above Kyoko's, which is higher than Patricia's AP, who is 18 megatons by being born.

It's less due to chip damage and more due to a combination of everything. The chip damage just happens to be consistent
 
Keep in mind that we are talking about bombarding Wal for several minutes.

And she is only 5.5 times above baseline High 7-A (albeit relatively casually), so anything below that would be 7-A.
 
It's probably better if we make a different thread if you want to keep discussing it tho
 
Only his face. Mid-High would need the entire body.

Anyway, given that the ribbons null corrosive abilities, i'm inclined to say that at the end of the day, ribbon trap can work just fine.

They also null the ability to become a Doppel in MagiReco so shapeshifting out of them is out of the table.
 
It's passive for Bog. You can't stop him from going intangible (elementally) because he's already like that. Ribbon Trapping Bog is like Ribbon Trapping water. Literally.
 
Water isn't even actually intangible, tho.

She can make the equivalent of a ribbon shield (Aka thick wall of ribbons) around him when she realizes that the normal version doesn't work. If he is encapsulated inside, he can't really get out.

Before you ask, yes, they can block water attacks.
 
@Kal By the time she figure out she has to do that there will be dozens of clones hidden around her for him to regenerate from
 
No not really. It's something incredibly obvious to try if something acts like a water. And exploiting an opponent's strength against them is pretty much her fighting style.

She uses her clones to deal with his clones, then.

The fact that he has vastly lower AP compared to the durability of the ribbons?
 
Which ends in in a bunch of dead or possessed Mami clones

His Lifting Strength would let him get out of being restrained
 
Clones are made of ribbons. And they avoid possession via not getting close

The ribbons can take a shot from False Mami, who is far above Candeloro, who would stomp base Mami (who is as strong as Bog) while holding back immensely.

I don't see him breaking them any time soon. And lifting strength doesn't help as he would need to break them.
 
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