Sukuna has soul defenses so I'm not sure if you can use that for Qrow.
Yes but people here are acting like SSK ignores matter to slice through things, which doesn't seem to be the case since despite having Soul-related defenses, Sukuna's been stabbed by the SSK and damaged by it, yet he was still able to physically grab it without issue and even block it with his bare hands
Yes they can both slice up each other, but neither are h2h fighters both would use their weapons to avoid that. And they wouldn't be fighting at range in the first place considering Qrow rarely uses that gun.
Yes... I don't disagree with that. My point was that Maki's original reasoning for winning was that Qrow doesn't resist SSK and thus can get cut by it, while ignoring the fact that Qrow can just... cut her too
It's not that bad, I don't remember it having any major part in the Haven fight and it played no part in his fight with Tryian. With how random it is it's not likely to effect a fight that would (regardless of who wins or loses) be over pretty fast.
His semblance made Tyrian fall through a building. It's a pretty subtle semblance but it's an advantage nonetheless, and it's something Qrow has trained himself to adapt to, unlike Maki who will have no idea wtf is going on and thus will likely fall prey to it eventually
tbf mfs were putting RWBY characters against country level characters saying they can outskill and out stamina them to win. If that's not overestimation idk what is.
Well honestly for me I am not the biggest fan of scaling chains for skill in general, but for RWBY especially. This series scaling every characters skill to another doesn't work that well, these are characters who have a wide variety of abilities and weapons. why would we scale Ruby, who fights with a scythe and gun...To flynt coal whos only attack is blasting a soundwave from a trumpet.
I've never seen a match that puts any RWBY character against a country level character. I'm mostly talking about the similar stats ones.
And as for scaling every character to each other, yeah, that's just how most fictional series work. Plus, if anything, fighting enemies with a wide variety of abilities and weapons should be a skil feat since it proves that these characters can handle different situations with whatever moveset they're given. In Qrow's case, he has decades of experience fighting not only different species of Grimm, but also different Huntsman, all of which use different abilities and semblance, and most of which are master combatants in their own right. Qrow has fought a larger variety of enemies than Maki has, objectively, mostly just due to his age.
1. she lost to Sukuna yeah, but she was still able to dodge his dismantles which irrc would be invisible to her, and she still held her own.
In her first interaction, she lost H2H (she didn't use SSK for some reason) to a fresh Megukuna alongside Yuji, which frankly was bad writing on JJK's part imo but that's what happened. Against injured True Form Sukuna, she was still getting help from other sorcerer's and was still losing. True, Sukuna is one of the strongest and objectively most experienced person in the verse, but she shouldn't be scaled directly to him since she was definitely losing.
2. Miwa is outer don't downplay my goat. also she showed her craftiness there by finding a way around simple domain.
Miwa is featless besides losing to Maki, accomplishing nothing against Kenjaku despite using a Binding Vow, and blocking Sukuna's Malevolent Shrine, which is impressive, but that was due to Simole Domain. Miwa is probably skilled in her own right, but she doesn't have any explicit statements of her skill besides "She trains really hard since she doesn't have a Cursed Technique and wants to make money for her brothers"
3. Was her and Ogi equal stats? the profiles have that Maki at 8-C and Ogi at 8-B. Regardless this is a different Maki than that one. It's like using Goku being beaten by old king piccolo as a knock against him skill wise.
Maki caught him off guard, sliced clean through his sword, and would have finished him off had he not fixed his own sword with Blazing Courage to catch her off guard right back. They seemed pretty even at the time
As for the skill stuff, Maki didn't do any training or sword practice or frankly anything after the Ogi fight, she just got stronger due to Mai dying. Goku trained for decades after the King Piccolo fight
4. Naoya was a human. He fought Maki, died afterwards, came back and even then it's not like he became a mindless monster. In their first fight she was able to counter his cursed technique mid fight as well as beat multiple grade one sorcerers jumping her prior.
I'm specifically mentioning Cursed Naoya here. Human Naoya and the rest of her family got bodied stat wise, and Maki was losing to Naoya before becoming Enlightened and gaining better Info Analysis, and after her Enlightenment she just blitzed him by dodging everything.
And yeah Huntsmen fight other humans but so do Sorcerers. Not sure what your point with that was.
My point was that people mentioned in this thread thay "hunters in RWBY aren't exactly killers they specifically hunt Grimm and that is where most of their skill set lay", which isn't true. Yes, they do hunt Grimm, but frankly speaking they fight each other and other people way more often (at least, Qrow certainly does)
My main reason for including these examples is to say that Maki's skill feats are also pretty much only scaled to other people just like RWBY character's are. Claiming that Maki outskills when Qrow is older, has more experienced, has more experienced with different types of weapons (Maki's used swords, spears, and staffs, while Qrow uses scythes, swords, and a gun), and has more public renown for his skill compared to Maki, doesn't make any sense to me.
