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Majora's Mask Link vs Son Goku

Pre tournament Goku is 110,000x baseline, and should have non physical interaction so he likely one shots. Idk about Link so I'll wait for the Zelda Supporters to see what link does.
 
Link's win condition is DEFINITELY gunna be his hax. He's got some pretty impressive ones. I'll try to get the ball rolling and play devil's advocate with both of them
 
As it stands evem the weakest 3-A key of Goku one shots Link but that doesn't matter as he currently lacks the ability to hit Non-Corporeal ghosts like Link.
 
Dust Collector said:
As it stands evem the weakest 3-A key of Goku one shots Link but that doesn't matter as he currently lacks the ability to hit Non-Corporeal ghosts like Link.
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Yeah Goku got really strong, he was already 220x baseline in the BoG arc. Goku needed blue Kaioken x10 to fight Hit. He later matched Hit with regular blue after the Black arc. Then ssg Goku was a match for Hit pre UIO1, who would be as strong as his pre tournament self due to the lack of training. So that would be 220 x 10 x 50 = 110,000. Don't get me started on Broly saga Goku.
 
Link can do things like duplicate with the 4 Sword, making the fight a little easier, he can use things like the Gnat Hat to shrink, potentially allowing for a sneak attack (usually Goku could still sense the ki, but considering he'd still be fighting three other Links, potentially one could slip by), Pegasus Boots can give him a speed boost to become faster than Goku (imagine a Link that can spring AND wear Pegasus Boots), he can use the Power Bracelets to make himself physically stronger, he can seal things in the 4 Sword ala Z Sword and Old Kai, he could use the Mirror Shield to potentially reflect weaker ki attacks like a barely charged Kamehameha or something like that, he has Magic Armor which gives him "invulnerability" (I'd say he could no-sell a fully charge base form Kamehameha, but anything more is pushing it), he can use the Blue Ring to half damage taken, the Red Ring to double his damage, Rock's Cape to jump high, he can also use his magic spells like Jump to increase his agility on top of the Pegasus Boots and the Rock's Cape, Shield to increase his durability, use Fairy to turn into a fairy for a smaller area for Goku to hit, Reflect to reflect projectiles (within reason of course), Life to heal, his Sheika Slate lets him freeze stuff, acts as an electro magnet, stop time, he can use his Champion abilities like Daruk's counter, paralysis from Abosa's lightning, Mefa's revival from death, and Ravali's gust of wind, allowing for gliding, he can wear the Red Mail which reduced all damage taken by 75% (which in conjunction with the Blue Ring reduces damage taken by 125%), the Titan's Mit which increase his strength even more on top of the Power Bracelet, the Cheater outfit (even higher boosted speed), the Fierce Deity outfit, 2x his damage output (in conjunction with the Red Ring, he'd deal 4x the damage of a universal Link + Power Bracelets + Titan's Mit), and shoot sword beams in 4 directions around him, he also has the Phantom Hour glass which can freeze time (the Sheika Slate can on freeze a target in time, this freezes time in general), he has the Spirit Gems which multiply Link's damage by 4x (universal + Power Bracelets + Titan's Mit x 8 because of the Fierce Deity costume, the Red Ring, and the Power Gems), 4x less damage (50% less for the Blue Ring, 75% less from the Red Mail, and 4x less from the Wisdom Gems), and more sword beams from the Courage Gems, all his hax from the Wind Waker wand, Golden Gauntlets that increase his strength (yet again), Hover Boots to... hover, the Healing Nayru's Love Spell to heal, the Explosive Dinn's Fire Spell, 99+ fire and ice arrows, Light arrows, Ancient Arrows, Golden Light arrows, the Goron Mask for speed boosts (rolls), durability boost and strength boost, Deku Mask allows for flight, Zoras Mask allows for an underwater speed boost, the Bunny Hood to yet again increase agility, the Giant Mask which makes him giant (even more strength), the Fierce Deity Mask that completely destroys every other item in the series as far as boosts, he has regen from one of his rings, Fire and Ice rods to control their respective elements, Gale Boomerang to catch Goku in a whirlwind, Cane of Burner creates a barrier that nulls attack and damages anyone who contacts it with fire (magic armor his wearing, the Magic Armor barrier, and Cane of Burner barrier all give "invulnerability"), Magic Cape allows Link to be incorporeal and invisible and gives a damage boost, Bombos Medallion nukes the area around him, Ether Medallion summons lightning, he can cast a lightning spell, Quake Medallion summons an earthquakes.

So after all of this (if it wasn't TLDR), basically, with Speed Equalized, Link has a shit ton of speed boosts to make him faster that Goku, a ton of strength boosts that might make him at least comparable to base Goku, and a lot of hax that actually present a threat to Goku.
 
And you aren't even taking Whis' training into count, or the zenkais gained during the Zamas saga, and the training on the room of time, etc. In short, Goku one-shots even on his Base BoG saga form.
 
And even if we take speed amps into count, Goku can speed amp himself too, SSJ forms and Kaio-ken increase his speed as well as his AP.
 
Ionliosite said:
And even if we take speed amps into count, Goku can speed amp himself too, SSJ forms and Kaio-ken increase his speed as well as his AP.
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Kaioken is restricted
 
BakiHanma18 said:
Ionliosite said:
And even if we take speed amps into count, Goku can speed amp himself too, SSJ forms and Kaio-ken increase his speed as well as his AP.
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Kaioken is restricted
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Only SSJ1 is allowed, or SSJ forms in general? All of them amp speed anyway.
 
Kaioken is restricted
Only SSJ1 is allowed, or SSJ forms in general? All of them amp speed anyway.

Only Super Saiyan 1, but all grades, so as little as 50x and max at 500x
 
Ionliosite said:
Well, the only grades Goku uses are 1 and 4 because 2 and 3 are too slow according to himself.
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True, in character, Goku would most likely use grade 4 now, since this is pre T.O.P. Goku and grade 4 gives a 500x multiplier while not draining ki
 
Goku cannot hit Link due to him being a ghost, which leaves Link with all the time in the world to hax the hell out of Goku.
 
Zamasu Chan said:
Pre tournament Goku is 110,000x baseline, and should have non physical interaction so he likely one shots. Idk about Link so I'll wait for the Zelda Supporters to see what link does.
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This is why multipliers are bad.
 
> Only Super Saiyan 1, but all grades, so as little as 50x and max at 500x

Absolutely false, grade 4 is not 500x base because Grade 3 is stronger than ssj2 physically. Trunks had to go USSJ (Grade 3) against Vegeta to trick him. Why would Trunks go from ssj2 to Ussj if, by your logic, ssj2 is stronger. That makes no sense.
 
SSJ= 50x

Grade 2> Grade 1= 50x

El Manga Legendario Dragon Ball, a Spanish only guidebook, chain that Grade 3 is 10x Grade 2.

Grade 4> Grade 2 and 3

Daizenshuu, manga, and El Manga Legendario confirm

El Legendario even started Grade 4 is stronger

Even Vegeta himself during the Cell Games told Trunks that Grade 4 was the strongest, which would include grade 2 and 3.

Grade 3 would be a 1000x multiplier (Base to Grade 1= 50x, Grade 1 to Grade 2= ~2x, Grade 2 to Grade 3= 10x)

Grade 4 is an over 1000x multiplier

https://youtu.be/cGDkd-AM0us
 
SSJ Grade 3 is stronger than 4, but that doesn't matter because 3 is too slow. SSJ2 is clearly above any of those grades tho.
 
Zamasu Chan said:
Why make a claim if you don't care to begin with? NANDATO???
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For the same reason I randomly used to FRA in some threads.

Because I feel like it.
 
Zamasu Chan said:
@Baki

I've seen that video plenty of times and it was debunked twice.
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Pretty good debunk, but here is how I explain Grade 4. When you start out, it's the basic 50x form. However, since Goku can power up the form beyond it's normal limits, it can surpass the multiplier of Grade 2 and 3, while remaining as SSJ1. This was confirmed by Toriyama that Goku could either transform into SSJ2 & 3, or he can power up his SSJ1 to rival those form. in the Super Manga, Trunks even amplified his SSJ2 to rival the 4x SSJ3 Goku. Therefore, at the time of the Cell Saga, Grade 4 SSJ replaces Grade 1 within those multiplier list (SSJ1 x 2=SSJ2 is now MSSJ1(50-500x) x 2 = SSJ2). Once it hits the Battle of gods Saga, MSSJ <= SSJ2 & SSJ3.
 
CrimsonStarFallen said:
Goku can't get past Link's ressurection, nor hit him because lol ghost. Stomp.
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True, at this point the multiplier is irrelevant if Goku can't beat the hax, but I wouldn't say it's a stomp just yet
 
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