• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Major Armed With Wings Revisions

I am not going to read all the scans in the OP so can you just give me the scans relating to the following stuff

Law Manipulation

Concept manipulation

Abstract existence

I'll reply about his tier later
 
Well he was stated to have created all and his existence is described as "everything". Scans below:

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...09031381012/unknown.png?width=1045&height=588

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...88473092107/unknown.png?width=1045&height=588

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...79005224968/unknown.png?width=1045&height=588

So it's possible that he also created souls, energy (concept manip), the laws of life and death (law manip), abstract existence is not a possibility, but fact. Scans above state "Blackmist is shapeless" and "We come and leave this world as blackmist" so every human is born and dies as part of blackmist (blackmist is everything from souls, to matter etc).

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...800293908528/unknown.png?width=500&height=282

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...849791021067/unknown.png?width=500&height=282 (Blackmist is "darkness" as stated here).
 
Do not see evidence of any of the three powers I mentioned. Creating everything isn't justification for law manipulation and concept manipulation, for those it has to be specifically stated that he created the world's laws and the abstract concepts governing them.

And being "shapeless" doesn't prove abstract existence, you have to exist as an abstraction not just lack a defined physical form. I'm not sure how the second quote is supposed to prove abstract existence, I only see that making a case for omnipresence.
 
No i mean if he created the world, shouldn't he have been able to have created these as well?

Blackmist is "everything". The 2nd quote describes everything that exists (basically parts of blackmist) as "fragments of darkness" (a concept). That is equalling Blackmist to Darkness. Here are some more quotes:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Blackmist.jpg

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...716789293056/unknown.png?width=723&height=406

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...912067829780/unknown.png?width=723&height=406
 
You cannot assume that unless it's stated.

"Darkness" isn't always treated as an abstract concept, so is there some context supporting fragments of darkness being an abstraction?
 
Those are all the scans there are. So darkness, shapeless, everything is blackmist, everything comes and goes as blackmist, it's what makes up everything, can resurrect people (has control over life and death i guess), and the other things you saw.
 
For the record, I think 3-A at minimum is justified here and low 2-C is also likely.
 
Wait, about Abstract Existence. What's your last say on it?

So Blackmist is "everything" in the universe (matter, soul, life etc), and is also called darkness, oblivion, shapeless etc. Does it qualify?
 
LightSShinning said:
May I ask where is the agreement about Omnipresent,Omniscient at? And what are the feat for Omnipresent,Omniscient?
He is omnipresent as Blackmist is stated to be "everything". Everything and everyone is composed of Blackmist.

Omniscient, is due to being again everything. Since everything is part of himself, Blackmist logically knows all about it, he created and is everything that exists.
 
He is omnipresent as Blackmist is stated to be "everything". Everything and everyone is composed of Blackmist.

Omniscient, is due to being again everything. Since everything is part of himself, Blackmist logically knows all about it, he created and is everything that exists.

You should have post it here for evaluation before applying the changes.
 
I did though. Even Andy agreed besides the other knowledgable members.

And being "shapeless" doesn't prove abstract existence, you have to exist as an abstraction not just lack a defined physical form. I'm not sure how the second quote is supposed to prove abstract existence, I only see that making a case for omnipresence.
 
I technically didn't green light omnipresence with that comment but it doesn't really matter tbh. I don't have a problem with the ability so it can stay.
 
1. When was it stated that Blackmist destroys the soul?

2. Even though he came back, it left him drastically weakened, to the point where he needed to rely on Gaaz to gather victims for him to absorb, so his regen wouldn't be combat-applicable and destroying him to that extent would still be a victory condition.
 
1. Blackmist himself states that he would collect Vandheer's soul.

2. Idk, depends. I don't think it took him a long time. Actually wait, nvm it takes too long, it's not combat applicable. Nvm then.
 
I think it's more that he can seal the soul away, seeing as he says that and then seals Vandheer. Could imply that Mr Lorde has soul manip and thus needs to be sealed like that, though.
 
It's not combat applicable, but it's still an ability he has. And he no selled a stab through the chest so he does have regen that is combat applicable.
 
It's not? This is an indexing site first. If it's an ability they have they should have it on their profiles, regardless of whether it's combat applicable or not.
 
Back
Top