In Regards to the Scaling Chain:
I’m gonna be posting the scaling chain I have as well as the justifications for it since I believe it can be reasoned out as this is the real final thing that needs to be discussed:
Li<Peter
My reasoning for this is pretty straightforward, in two entire separate confrontation, one of which Peter was weakened and injured in, Peter has directly beaten Li, while holding back no less too. Peter has clear feats of being superior to Lo like how he
kicks through Li’s own manifested demon so again I think it’s fair to say Peter is above Li. This does not cause issues for the scaling chain as Miles himself has shown to be above Li and clearly overpowers his defenses with his venom attacks. Li was also actively
shown to be chaining up his inner demon against Miles unlike against Peter and Li himself draws power off of his negative emotions to subdue any notions that Li somehow got so much stronger while in prison.
Peter<Miles
I don’t think this one is too controversial of a take. Miles and Peter should be comparable to each other in base with Miles’ venom attacks being superior to Peter’s base strength. I also believe I have a solution for the Miles scaling. Since Miles has two versions of his venom blasts, with his blue version being explicitly stronger than his orange, the scaling chain and tier system between Peter and Miles should looking something like this:
Peter~Miles (tier 8-A+)<Miles orange Venom(8-A+ value)<Miles blue venom (baseline low 7-C value)
Miles<Kraven<Symbiote Peter
This one I also believe to be straightforward and understandable given the narrative of the series.
Kraven not only directly beats Miles himself after fighting Li, and even if you want to argue he was “weakened” from fighting Li then that just proves the scaling chain even further. But also the whole narrative of the story actively showcases Kraven wanting black suit Spider-Man in specific. He’s described as being “special” compared to the rest of the rogues gallery he’s fought. And actively uses Miles as bait simply to draw Peter to stop holding back as much.
It would make no sense, both story wise and game wise, if Miles is above Kraven and Peter then it would make no sense for Kraven to actively be pursuing Peter over Miles while all the hunters constantly praise Peter as being “the one” who’s suitable enough to take Kraven down.
To completely cement this notion, this idea gets further proven by the showings in the game.
Kraven is shown to absolutely dominate and stand stock still against Scorpion’s attacks while Miles is shown to be able to be
damaged by Scorpion and struggles against his grip. This is the same opponent and Kraven shows a considerably and noticeably better performance against Scorpion than Miles did. Miles struggles against Scorpion while Kraven overpowers him, clear as is.
Peter is shown to completely overpower and easily handle Kraven the minute he started to stop holding back as much. If Miles is stronger than symbiote Peter then it makes no real sense that he lost to Kraven since he should be able to
easily overpower him like Peter did. Even the argument that “oh Miles was weakened against Li” proves the scaling chain since Miles, even when fighting with intent to kill, is able to be “exhausted” by Li, but meanwhile Peter is able to decimate an entire Hunter’s camp + Kraven himself (who’s superior to Li) while Kraven was utilizing his weakness and Peter was still holding back and not be exhausted by him. But Miles gets “weakened” by someone who’s inferior to Kraven himself.
Looking at their respective performances against the Lizard.
Miles is shown to be actively running away from the Lizard, citing how he “doesn’t want to be Lizard food” and would rather tag team the Lizard. And meanwhile Peter is shown to be
superior to the Lizard on multiple occasions and is also shown to absolutely
dominate him in a direct 1v1 confrontation. There’s absolutely no evidence that Miles can so easily overpower the Lizard like Peter was shown to be able to do because the confrontations we have seen between Miles and the Lizard actively show that Miles is fearful and does not want to engage in a 1v1 against the Lizard like Peter has done, which wouldn’t make sense if Miles is allegedly so much more powerful than the Lizard like Peter is.
So to recap:
Miles is shown to struggle and be hurt by Scorpion while Kraven easily overpowers him.
Miles fights Li and then loses to Kraven while Peter fights a whole Hunter’s base and then easily overpowers Kraven.
Miles actively runs away and does not want to fight the Lizard 1v1 while Peter is shown to consistently dominate and overpower the Lizard single-handedly.
So conclusion is that the scaling chain of Miles<Kraven<Symbiote Spider-Man is one that is pretty consistent with both the in game showings and the narrative of the story as well.
Symbiote Spider-Man<Venom<Mutated Venom
This one shouldn’t be controversial at all really and one that should be agreed with by essentially everyone so I won’t go into it.
These are the scaling chains I defined that I believe to be more than backed by the actual story itself in the verse and what I see as making the most sense.
