Magus vs nacht

[speedster352]

Magus Kazuma_kuwabara vs Nacht Arnoldstone18
SBA
Speed equalized.
Standard equipment only

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Literally all what Nacht can do is Shadow based and Magus is naturally resistant to the shadow element, has a forcefield that null magic and has 2 instakills in transmutation and Black hole

And in the skill deparment, Magus faced this

 

[speedster352]

Literally all what Nacht can do is Shadow based and Magus is naturally resistant to the shadow element, has a forcefield that null magic and has 2 instakills in transmutation and Black hole

And in the skill deparment, Magus faced this

Nacht has other attacks and bfr

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Nacht has other attacks and bfr

BFR via dragging someone to a shadow realm, against Magus with higher LS

 

[speedster352]

BFR via dragging someone to a shadow realm, against Magus with higher LS

• Canis Mode: All previous abilities, Duplication (Created a myriad of clones via Gimodelo's Pack), Natural Weaponry and further enhanced Stealth Mastery (Each of his clones possesses the same Ki as him, making it impossible to distinguish them. His Mana Zone makes it impossible to detect him).
• Felis Mode: Enhanced Agility ("Characteristics: Agility" allows Nacht to dodge a Danmaku barrage of attacks from characters that are faster than him).
• Gallus Mode: Flight (True Flight), Natural Weaponry, Sound Manipulation and enhanced Paralysis Inducement (With "Characteristics: Sound", Nacht can release cries that paralyze his opponents).
• Gallus×Felis: All Gallus Mode and Felis Mode abilities, Pocket Reality Manipulation (Created a non-existent world).
• Canis×Felis: All of Canis Mode and Felis Mode abilities, Stealth and Cloning with Kids’ Playground (with Yami, Nacht can create a dark spell construct that encompasses a large area. Yami, Nacht, and their allies can travel through the darkness making them difficult to detect. This spell also creates waves of dark clones, resembling Yami and Nacht, attacking the enemy as a diversion).

 

[speedster352]

BFR via dragging someone to a shadow realm, against Magus with higher LS

Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Stealth Mastery (Infiltrated the Spade Kingdom, surprised the Magic Knight Captains, who couldn't even sense his mana), Accelerated Development (Gain power ups by surpassing his limits during battles), Acrobatics, Aura (Mages with an extremely large amount of Magic Power can induce an intense pressure in their surroundings), BFR (Can drag his opponents into a shadow, removing them from the battlefield), Creation (Can create shadows, and morph them into hands), Enhanced Senses, Extrasensory Perception (People with Magic Power can sense the flow of Mana in their surroundings as well as others people's Magic Power), Flight (Limited Flight with a broom), Forcefield Creation (Mages with large amount of Magic Power naturally have a forcefield that constantly protects them from incoming attacks), Fusionism (Can fuse with one or even two of his devils and reach the state of Devil Union), Magic (Attribute: Shadow Magic. Mostly used to move from shadow to shadow, Nacht can also restrain his opponents by manipulating their shadow), Magic Nullification with Binding Magic (Binding Magic prevents the opponent from casting spells and exerting their Magic Power), Paralysis Inducement (Paralyzed Asta with his shadow), Portal Creation and Teleportation (Capable of teleporting from shadows), Sealing (Sealed Asta and Liebe in darkness), Shadow Magic (Can manipulate shadows), Spatial Manipulation and Statistics Amplification with Mana Zone (Users of Mana Zone are capable of manipulating the mana around them, not only allowing them to have access to more mana then they normally have access to, but allowing them to attack from any direction, and inside of things. Mana Zone users similarly get a boost to all stats), Summoning (Capable of summoning devils in the real world), Transformation via Unholy Manipulation (Due to being Devil-Possessed, Nacht has the ability to use the power of the four devils he has contract with), Resistance to Heat Manipulation (Mana Skin allows even the average Magic Knights to run across the Yultim Volcano, a Grand Magic Region which can reduce a human into ashes by heat alone. Should be further enhanced with Mana Zone), Mind Manipulation (Those with a developed Magic Power are unaffected by Neige's Snow Magic, which controls the target), Power Nullification with Mana Skin (Mana Skin allowed Noelle to cast Sea Dragon's Roar under the presence of an elf, whom can neutralize even the spells of those with a good magic control such as Finral. Should be further enhanced with Mana Zone) and Sleep Manipulation with Mana Skin (Leopold was able to overcome the effects of Fragil's Snow Magic, which puts her opponents to sleep. Should be further enhanced with Mana Zone).

 

[Arkenis]

Literally all what Nacht can do is Shadow based and Magus is naturally resistant to the shadow element, has a forcefield that null magic and has 2 instakills in transmutation and Black hole

And in the skill deparment, Magus faced this

Magus time hax?

 

[speedster352]

Magus time hax?

Nacht has haxes too like clones with the same ki and magic signature like him mana zone and etc so he can win this

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Magus time hax?

What do you mean?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Also, the AP of both characters:

Magus is 40 teratons via fighting Lavos, probably more for fighting more powerfull forms of the monster, but that is his minimun
Nacht is 13 Teratons in Devil Union, Double Devil Union is more than that

 

[speedster352]

Also, the AP of both characters:

Magus is 40 teratons via fighting Lavos, probably more for fighting more powerfull forms of the monster that is his minimun
Nacht is 13 Teratons in Devil Union, Double Devil Union is more than that

Yes but nacht has haxes to paralyze with sound magus then he bfr him which he does in character, clones speed amps and etc

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Yes but nacht has haxes to paralyze magus then he bfr him which he does in character, clones speed amps and etc

Paralize via a magic scream= meets the forcefield and be nulled

Speed amps vs a mage who always nukes the battlefield and the speed amps depends of him using one of his devil union mode

Clones are fine

 

[Arkenis]

What do you mean?

what is his time hax

 

[Arkenis]

Cause depending on his time hax he's winning.

 

[speedster352]

Paralize via a magic scream= meets the forcefield and be nulled

Speed amps vs a mage who always nukes the battlefield and the speed amps depends of him using one of his devil union mode

Clones are fine

Nacht can dodge and has physical attacks and can amp his durabity with, mana zone, mana skin, reinforcement magic, devil union as well. He has magic nullifcation to get rid of forcefield. And nacht can teleport trough the shadows and can attack for multiple angles.

Paralysis Inducement (Paralyzed Asta with his shadow), Portal Creation and Teleportation (Capable of teleporting from shadows), Sealing (Sealed Asta and Liebe in darkness), Shadow Magic (Can manipulate shadows), Spatial Manipulation and Statistics Amplification with Mana Zone (Users of Mana Zone are capable of manipulating the mana around them, not only allowing them to have access to more mana then they normally have access to, but allowing them to attack from any direction, and inside of things. Mana Zone users similarly get a boost to all stats),

Cause depending on his time hax he's winning.

Nacht starts with clones that cannot be distinguished

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

what is his time hax

He has resistance to time hax and space/time hax, not time hax itself

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Nacht can dodge and has physical attacks and can amp his durabity with, mana zone, mana skin, reinforcement magic, devil union as well. He has magic nullifcation to get rid of forcefield. And nacht can teleport trough the shadows and can attack for multiple angles.

Magic nullification via binding someone, something so impractical in battle that is useless

And Magus can cast Barrier and amp his durability a third, so he has in practice, 60 teratons of durability, almost 6 TIMES NACHT AP

Edit: Also no, you are counting devil union as a amp , he is already using it to be in this tournament, he starts in that form because without it, he is not 6-B, he is not getting a speed amp for entering a form that is needed to participate in the first place

 

[speedster352]

Magic nullification via binding someone, something so impractical in battle that is useless

And Magus can cast Barrier and amp his durability a third, os he has in practice, 60 teratons of durability, almost 6 TIMES NACHT AP

Nacht will paraylize him with his shadow and bfr him. He has the means too with stealh mastery, cloning, amps and etc

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Nacht will paraylize him with his shadow and bfr him. He has the means too with stealh mastery, cloning, amps and etc

Paralize with shadow magic a guy who has a natural resistance to shadow magic because is his element+ forcefield that null magic+ more LS

Try again

 

[speedster352]

Paralize with shadow magic a guy who has a natural resistance to shadow magic because is his element+ forcefield that null magic+ more LS

Try again

Nacht resist power null and it's layered. Nacht shadow even works on anti magic not DU though. Nacht has portals so he can still bfr and he can seal and has accelerated development which will alow him to improve exponentially. And it's better than Asta who went from weaker than supreses base vetto to defeating forbidden magic full power vetto in and hour.

 

[Stillwinston]

What do they open with again? I know Magus has Dark Matter but that took some time to use iirc

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

What do they open with again? I know Magus has Dark Matter but that took some time to use iirc

Boss fight of Magus: Use his barrier, start spamming regular magic, against people that he seems worthless or changing his tactics, use transmutation

Regular Magus after the fight: Can use whatever he wants of his moveset via RPG logic

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Literally all what Nacht can do is Shadow based and Magus is naturally resistant to the shadow element, has a forcefield that null magic and has 2 instakills in transmutation and Black hole

And in the skill deparment, Magus faced this

Do i have my devils here? cuz what the ****...

 

[speedster352]

Do i have my devils here? cuz what the ****...

Don't worry Nacht has indistinguishable clones, mana zone that will make him undetectable and he grabs a person's shadow to paralyze them

Boss fight of Magus: Use his barrier, start spamming regular magic, against people that he seems worthless or changing his tactics, use transmutation

Regular Magus after the fight: Can use whatever he wants of his moveset via RPG logic

Also nacht is a genius and has accelerated development and will find a way to beat him

 

[Arnoldstone18]

So i have my devils... nice. ill read the thread now

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Nacht resist power null and it's layered. Nacht shadow even works on anti magic not DU though. Nacht has portals so he can still bfr and he can seal and has accelerated development which will alow him to improve exponentially. And it's better than Asta who went from weaker than supreses base vetto to defeating forbidden magic full power vetto in and hour.

Magic in Chrono Trigger comes from humans being exposed to Lavos

Magus is the single most powerfull sorcerer of all time, being more powerful that the guy that teach the protagonist how to use magic, more powerful than flea with his illusions, has beaten Lavos mimicking his own Barrier, who can also absorb magic and has the abilities of his own counter, the Masamune, the only thing able to nullify Magus barrier (because is literally Asta antimagic in that regard)

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Don't worry Nacht has indistinguishable clones, mana zone that will make him undetectable and he grabs a person's shadow to paralyze them

Keep using this when the LS strength difference is more than 1 billion times

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Nacht resist power null

Except that does not mean anything to Magus, Magus is not nullifying you using your magic, is a barrier that absorbs magic itself

 

[speedster352]

Keep using this when the LS strength difference is more than 1 billion times

I mean all he does is restrain a person's shadow he doesn't grab them but the shadow. Shadows don't have LS. he can make portals with shadow to bfr he will fall through.

So i have my devils... nice. ill read the thread now

Some help?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

I mean all he does is restrain a person's shadow he doesn't grab them but the shadow. Shadows don't have LS. he can make portals with shadow to bfr he will fall through.

Some help?

Asta was able to move a little even with the shadow being restrained+ Magus can teleport+ resistance to shadow attacks

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Nacht monument of atonement is his best "win" condition, but is literally a tied if he use it, so he can always get an inconclusive if Magus does not teleport himself

So I am not gonna talk about that because is a moot point for me

 

[speedster352]

Asta was able to move a little even with the shadow being restrained+ Magus can teleport+ resistance to shadow attacks

That was Nacht at full power. So can nacht he has stealth mastery, cloning and etc and genius intelligence and accelerated development that surpasses Asta(look at how crazy Asta accelerated development was) he will figure a way to beat magus

Attack Potency: At least Island level, possibly Large Island level+ (Stronger than Base Asta, as he could easily pin him down on multiple occasions), Country level with Devil Union (Traded blows with Dante. Can get even stronger by combining two Devil Unions), far higher with Kids' Playground (Far stronger than before)

Durability: At least Island level, possibly Large Island level+ (Superior to Base Asta), Country level with Devil Union (Survived a beating from a casual Lilith and Naamah), higher with Mana Skin, far higher with Union Mode: Equus (Took no damage from an attack from Devil Power Dante)

Nacht has the stamina to last 3 days straight with fitting and likely higher. Nachts speed amps are insane

• Canis Mode: All previous abilities, Duplication (Created a myriad of clones via Gimodelo's Pack), Natural Weaponry and further enhanced Stealth Mastery (Each of his clones possesses the same Ki as him, making it impossible to distinguish them. His Mana Zone makes it impossible to detect him).
• Felis Mode: Enhanced Agility ("Characteristics: Agility" allows Nacht to dodge a Danmaku barrage of attacks from characters that are faster than him).
• Gallus Mode: Flight (True Flight), Natural Weaponry, Sound Manipulation and enhanced Paralysis Inducement (With "Characteristics: Sound", Nacht can release cries that paralyze his opponents).
• Gallus×Felis: All Gallus Mode and Felis Mode abilities, Pocket Reality Manipulation (Created a non-existent world).
• Canis×Felis: All of Canis Mode and Felis Mode abilities, Stealth and Cloning with Kids’ Playground (with Yami, Nacht can create a dark spell construct that encompasses a large area. Yami, Nacht, and their allies can travel through the darkness making them difficult to detect. This spell also creates waves of dark clones, resembling Yami and Nacht, attacking the enemy as a diversion).

Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Stealth Mastery (Infiltrated the Spade Kingdom, surprised the Magic Knight Captains, who couldn't even sense his mana), Accelerated Development (Gain power ups by surpassing his limits during battles), Acrobatics, Aura (Mages with an extremely large amount of Magic Power can induce an intense pressure in their surroundings), BFR (Can drag his opponents into a shadow, removing them from the battlefield), Creation (Can create shadows, and morph them into hands), Enhanced Senses, Extrasensory Perception (People with Magic Power can sense the flow of Mana in their surroundings as well as others people's Magic Power), Flight (Limited Flight with a broom), Forcefield Creation (Mages with large amount of Magic Power naturally have a forcefield that constantly protects them from incoming attacks), Fusionism (Can fuse with one or even two of his devils and reach the state of Devil Union), Magic (Attribute: Shadow Magic. Mostly used to move from shadow to shadow, Nacht can also restrain his opponents by manipulating their shadow), Magic Nullification with Binding Magic (Binding Magic prevents the opponent from casting spells and exerting their Magic Power), Paralysis Inducement (Paralyzed Asta with his shadow), Portal Creation and Teleportation (Capable of teleporting from shadows), Sealing (Sealed Asta and Liebe in darkness), Shadow Magic (Can manipulate shadows), Spatial Manipulation and Statistics Amplification with Mana Zone (Users of Mana Zone are capable of manipulating the mana around them, not only allowing them to have access to more mana then they normally have access to, but allowing them to attack from any direction, and inside of things. Mana Zone users similarly get a boost to all stats), Summoning (Capable of summoning devils in the real world), Transformation via Unholy Manipulation (Due to being Devil-Possessed, Nacht has the ability to use the power of the four devils he has contract with), Resistance to Heat Manipulation (Mana Skin allows even the average Magic Knights to run across the Yultim Volcano, a Grand Magic Region which can reduce a human into ashes by heat alone. Should be further enhanced with Mana Zone), Mind Manipulation (Those with a developed Magic Power are unaffected by Neige's Snow Magic, which controls the target), Power Nullification with Mana Skin (Mana Skin allowed Noelle to cast Sea Dragon's Roar under the presence of an elf, whom can neutralize even the spells of those with a good magic control such as Finral. Should be further enhanced with Mana Zone) and Sleep Manipulation with Mana Skin (Leopold was able to overcome the effects of Fragil's Snow Magic, which puts her opponents to sleep. Should be further enhanced with Mana Zone).

So i have my devils... nice. ill read the thread now

Make some arguments it's your character that you choose

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Do i have my devils here? cuz what the ****...

Don´t get your hopes up because in Chrono Trigger, Magus is superior to literal fiends, magical beings from the middle ages, there are imps, demons, nagas, etc

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Nacht has the stamina to last 3 days straight with fitting and likely higher. Nachts speed amps are insane

Magus spent days, probably weeks using his own magic to summon Lavos in a attempt to kill him

 

[Arnoldstone18]

I can't even read the thread, can you guys SHUT UP FOR A SECOND.

 

[Arkenis]

Leaning towards Magus due to ap advantage rn

 

[Arnoldstone18]

BFR via dragging someone to a shadow realm, against Magus with higher LS

Paralysis inducement... negs your LS arguments. BFR

Paralize via a magic scream= meets the forcefield and be nulled

Does Magnus lose his hearing within his forcefield?

the speed amps depends of him using one of his devil union mode

He can switch between devils in rapid succession.

Also no, you are counting devil union as a amp , he is already using it to be in this tournament, he starts in that form because without it, he is not 6-B, he is not getting a speed amp for entering a form that is needed to participate in the first place

No. He gets a speed amp from Felis mode since it is faster than the rest of his transformations.

What do they open with again? I know Magus has Dark Matter but that took some time to use iirc

Does he really have resistance to shadow, or is it dark magic?

If he does have resistance to shadow, does he still take damage from his other resistances cuz i know he is weak to light and lightning attacks

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Felis mode also dodges danmaku and Large AOE spells due to its INSANE agility.

Even stealth mastery allowing him to sneak up on opponents even during a fight.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Does he really have resistance to shadow, or is it dark magic?

If he does have resistance to shadow, does he still take damage from his other resistances cuz i know he is weak to light and lightning attacks

Chrono Trigger has Ice(and water), fire (probably Plasma? Not sure...), light (and electricty) and Shadow (and dark) magic elements, Shadow and Dark is the same

Does Magnus lose his hearing within his forcefield?

Is a magical scream: One of Walgner's abilities, Crow 「鳴声 Nakigoe, Viz: "Cry"」 creates over the user a rooster-shaped shell of shadow which issues a loud crow that momentarily paralyzes those who hear it. This ability even affects high-ranking devils

Shadow magic? Get´s resisted

No. He gets a speed amp from Felis mode since it is faster than the rest of his transformations.

In felis mode he gets an amp, but he was saying "he gets an amp via devil union" when he starts in devil union, false equivalence

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Chrono Trigger has Ice(and water), fire (probably Plasma? Not sure...), light (and electricty) and Shadow (and dark) magic elements, Shadow and Dark is the same

Noted

Is a magical scream: One of Walgner's abilities, Crow 「鳴声 Nakigoe, Viz: "Cry"」 creates over the user a rooster-shaped shell of shadow which issues a loud crow that momentarily paralyzes those who hear it. This ability even affects high-ranking devils

Shadow magic? Get´s resisted

So he negs any form of shadow magic. Even the ones that are sound based from Nacht's devil and not the bell itself...?

In felis mode he gets an amp, but he was saying "he gets an amp via devil union" when he starts in devil union, false equivalence

lol