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Magic: The Gathering 1-A Upgrade

Robo432343

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@ActuallySpaceMan42 created this blog from around a year ago before the tiering system changes and now its 1-A because the tiering system has been updated
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@StrymULTRA explained the blog here

  • Baseline World: Each world has its own dimensionality, with multiple statements of it being infinitely beyond places which are inferior about dimensionality, with said amount of dimensions being basically countless (1-B)
  • Powestones: Geometrically perfect objects, that contain within them, unreachable infinite spaces. This infinite space can contain entire dimensional realities and worlds, and those worlds can be further nested into one another (1-B)
  • Planes: Worlds that are infinite in size, separated by walls of reality, and that have their own dimensionality. They are capable of having impossible angles, spaces extending into infinity through fractal mathematics, and extra-planar geometry, such as Niz-Mizzet's Seven-Dimensional Geometry. (1-B)
  • Multiverse: A collection of planes is described as a jumble of infinities, while the Multiverse is an infinite array. As such the Multiverse is described as being a greater infinity, with planes being infinite fractions of this infinity. (1-B)
  • Time Streams: There are infinite time streams, always splitting and branching, with each one having its own multiverse.
  • Blind Eternity: It exists beyond space and time, having no concepts of distance, is all-encompassing, can't be filled, and views the multiverse as a dream and illusion (1-A)

If there is no 1-B:
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  • Powestones (Contain unreachable infinite spaces, and can contain their own dimensional realities. So far it has been shown that seven dimensions exist at the very least.) (1-C)
  • Planes (Infinite universes which can expand into infinity through fractals, also have their own dimensionality and can have extra-dimensions, so seventh dimension at the most.) (1-C)
  • Multiverse (Straight up is stated to be a greater infinity, with planes merely being infinite fractions of itself.) (1-C)
  • Time Streams (There are infinite time streams, always splitting and branching, with each one having its own multiverse.)
  • Blind Eternity (Exists beyond space and time, having no concepts of distance, is all-encompassing, can't be filled, and views the multiverse as a dream and illusion) (1-A)
 
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it was agreed previously that the verse should be 1-B, likely 1-A but everyone forgot about the thread
 
Robo432343 said:
  • Baseline World: Each world has its own dimensionality, with multiple statements of it being infinitely beyond places which are inferior about dimensionality, with said amount of dimensions being basically countless (1-B)
  • Powestones: Geometrically perfect objects, that contain within them, unreachable infinite spaces. This infinite space can contain entire dimensional realities and worlds, and those worlds can be further nested into one another (1-B)
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I don't see this in the userblog to be honest.
 
Voidnether said:
I don't see this in the userblog to be honest.
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i'll show you were it talks about how there are countless spatial dimensions coz its not in this blog

"What you're working with here is nonlinear transport, but you've been thinking in terms of linear laws this whole time. Consider this for a moment. In a multidimensional space, what happens to the friction?"
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Calculations were streaming through Rashmi's mind. "We'll need more aether. At least twice as much to accommodate for the increased spatial dimensionality."
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Fingers extended, Rashmi reached into the multidimensional aether projection within the modular core, feeling out the scaffolding, a one-to-one representation of the aether patterns of the Great Conduit.
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"Now to bring you through." She guided the insubstantial projection, winding it through the phantom dimensional scaffolding in the modular core, pulling it toward the anchor that represented the inception location.
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quoting spaceman Rashmi is making a nonlinear transporter that moves things through multidimensional space. It is clarified that this is referring to spatial dimensionality and that phantom dimensions are just a way they refer to the dimensions they are viewing in their projection of the actual multidimensional space.

She would have screamed if she could have found her voice—if she could have identified the place within her being that a voice was supposed to come from. But she couldn't find her lips, nor her lungs, nor any other part of her body. All she knew were the multitudinous dimensions. They were no longer phantom, no longer variables in an equation. They were real. And there were so many.

Rashmi felt so small, and yet her essence had the sensation of enormity.
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The images—impressions really—were coming faster now. One blended into the next, quiet hearths, vast deserts, bustling marketplaces filled with unfamiliar people and wares, the maw of a beast, a star-filled sky. More than she could count, more than she could ever know.
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However through an incident with her transporter, she learns that these dimensions which seemed fake to her, were real, and there are so many it takes her feel small. More than she could count, and more than she could ever know.
"Kozilek can influence time and space, Tazri. This is true. This is its purpose. But time and space are merely two dimensions in all the panoply of what is."
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it is stated that both time and space, are merely two dimensions in comparison to everything there is.

and these are the infinitely greater stuff quotes
“It was hard for even Jodah to wrap his brain around the concept of a jumble of infinities, a collection of universes, split off from a greater infinity.„

“Argoth. Since then, these separated realities formed a stable construct separate from the greater portion of the multiverse an infinite fraction of a greater infinity.

so there are countless spatial dimensions as i showed in these quotes which are infinitely beyond places which are inferior about dimensionality
 
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eh, from a glance, look fine, Time Stream probably will be 1 layer higher into 1-A, well, unless there are anti-feat like lower world can reach 1-A place

Still, what the hell, so many obscure verses pop up into existence and being 1-A, seriously
 
This reminds me that I need to upgrade Animatou.to scale to the Cosmology because they explicitly stated with her powerset she could easily destroy existence itself

The upgrade looks good to me
 
i think this is a 1-A statement
"But time and space are merely two dimensions in all the panoply of what is."
 
Vietthai96 said:
eh, from a glance, look fine, Time Stream probably will be 1 layer higher into 1-A, well, unless there are anti-feat like lower world can reach 1-A place

Still, what the hell, so many obscure verses pop up into existence and being 1-A, seriously
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time stream doesn't scale above blind eternity so i'll just change it
 
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i remember when the last 1-A upgrade was made, the staff members were saying statements like existing beyond the concept of dimensionality was not enough for a 1-A upgrade unless the cosmology was High 1-B to Low 1-A or something
but the tiering system changed that now
 
I should note, btw, that the Multiverse having Infinite planes is contradicted later on by very credible in-verse sources (which arguably is more important than extra-fictional sources).

Ugin himself says while the Multiverse is infinite, it's contents aren't, and if anyone knows their stuff about the Multiverse, it would be Ugin.

"They're called the Eldrazi," said Ugin, "and they devour entire worlds. They are not true Planeswalkers, yet they move freely between planes. They are living organisms, apparently native to the Blind Eternities—the only such creatures known to exist. If they are not stopped, they pose a threat to every world."

"They cannot threaten every world," said Sorin. "The Multiverse is infinite."

"You clearly don't believe that," said Ugin. "If there are an infinity of worlds, then why save any of them? Why not just move to other worlds, ahead of the Eldrazi? No. The Multiverse is boundless, but its contents are finite. To believe otherwise is to believe that nothing matters at all. And when you are as old as I am, you will understand that nihilism is an indulgence you cannot afford."
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"You clearly don't believe that," said Ugin. "If there are an infinity of worlds, then why save any of them? Why not just move to other worlds, ahead of the Eldrazi? No. The Multiverse is boundless, but its contents are finite. To believe otherwise is to believe that nothing matters at all. And when you are as old as I am, you will understand that nihilism is an indulgence you cannot afford."
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That is stupid, you can't just qualify the worth of human lifes with literal numbers and values, and infinite universes won't just decrese the value of someone, by virtue of them being enclosed doing their own things, and it would still be silly to say that just because there are an infinite ammount of you, you don't matter, literal reddit philosophy
 
Livinmeme said:
That is stupid, you can't just qualify the worth of human lifes with literal numbers and values, and infinite universes won't just decrese the value of someone, by virtue of them being enclosed doing their own things, and it would still be silly to say that just because there are an infinite ammount of you, you don't matter, literal reddit philosophy
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TBF, you are currently having a Reddit moment with a fictional multi-millenia year old dragon.
 
Udlmaster said:
I should note, btw, that the Multiverse having Infinite planes is contradicted later on by very credible in-verse sources (which arguably is more important than extra-fictional sources).

Ugin himself says while the Multiverse is infinite, it's contents aren't, and if anyone knows their stuff about the Multiverse, it would be Ugin.
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Do you know what it means by contents
 
Robo432343 said:
Do you know what it means by contents
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It means the Planes. Specifically how the Eldrazi Titans destroy Planes and will eventually destroy the Multiverse.

Sorin says that's impossible because the Multiverse is infinite but Ugin corrects him, saying the Multiverse is boundless but its contents (the Planes) are finite.
 
Udlmaster said:
It means the Planes. Specifically how the Eldrazi Titans destroy Planes and will eventually destroy the Multiverse.

Sorin says that's impossible because the Multiverse is infinite but Ugin corrects him, saying the Multiverse is boundless but its contents (the Planes) are finite.
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does that mean no 1-A mtg
 
Udlmaster said:
Definitely not.

Just making a minor correction to the Multiverse.
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im confused about the planes because of this statement
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it says here that Planes can be infinite expanses of matter and the narrator said planes were infinite

but then ugin said its not
 
Robo432343 said:
im confused about the planes because of this statement
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it says here that Planes can be infinite expanses of matter and the narrator said planes were infinite

but then ugin said its not
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We have already gone trough this, the multiverse is infinite, the ammount of universes inside it are not.
 
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