Madokami vs Sonic

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

So current vote?

 

[DMB_1]

Guys, about that argument of "The Ancient Walkers being part of the Chaos Force just like Force Spirits being part of the Force" kinda matters here, as if it was true, it would nullify Sonic's benefit of having the AP.

He would still be able to use Concept Erase though.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Being one with it = you are it.

That is like saying hand is a human cuz they are part of it.

 

[Idol_of_Legend_and_Elimination]

I'm gonna change the vote to Madoka due to Homu's reason

 

[Kaltias]

So current vote?

Sanic: ShadowWarrior1999, ShakeResounding, Insecurity97, Setsuna tenma, Xtasyamphetamine, DragonEmperor23, Dragopentling

Meguca: Homu Sweet Homu, Edwardtruong2006, ItsEliminationTime, Kaltias, Veloxt1r0kore, ZacharyGrossman273, DMB1, SSBXeno573 pretty sure that RKGenki is voting Madoka as well

It also looks like some people voting Sonic are switching to inconclusive because i saw some talk about mutual kill above

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Well, Madoka FRA then. Why higher PMMM match get lots of attention while lower PMMM match not? >:T

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Jokes aside tho madoka FRA

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Well, Madoka FRA then.
Why higher PMMM match get lots of attention while lower PMMM match not? >:T

Because most of them made by you, which tends to be a stomp. ovo

 

[DMB_1]

I vote for Madoka:

That AP advantage probably doesn't matter that much, she is Nigh-Omniscient, way more versatile and with more stuff in her arsenal, and has fought things with hax similar to Sonic's.

 

[SSBXeno573]

Also gonna vote Madoka FRA.

 

[PaChi2]

Well, Madoka FRA then.
Why higher PMMM match get lots of attention while lower PMMM match not? >:T

Find me a PMMM garl to fight The Arise and I shall bump that thread for eternity.

 

[Idol_of_Legend_and_Elimination]

@PaChi

Madoka herself lol (5-B version)

 

[PaChi2]

@PaChi

Madoka herself lol (5-B version)

I have issues with the 5-B rating in his profile, I'd rather not use it.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

His?

 

[Kaltias]

His?

Arisen is male

 

[PaChi2]

His?

Arisen is male

Duh, technically they can be both depending on player choice.

My mistake on that part.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Oh, I thought you're referring to Madoka.

 

[PaChi2]

I was referring to Madoka

 

[Kaltias]

Btw magic nullification is fair game, but it entirely depends from how "magic" is defined in Sonic's verse.

"Magic" in PMMM ranges from "Mami enhancing Sayaka's baseball bat" to "Madoka reshaping all of existence". It's a term that means "supernatural stuff in general".

Heck all of Sonic's stuff is magic by PMMM standards and Madoka has magic negation herself

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Sonic resists power null though

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Sonic resists power null though

And Madoka magic null bypasses resistance.

 

[Kaltias]

In which form? Madoka has three different types of power null.

She can inflict what is essentially Silence from Final Fantasy (Seal your abilities), depower you just by looking at you, and Imagine Breaker style stuff taken from Tart and Kazumi

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

The Lapin one.

 

[Kaltias]

I meant which form of power null he resists (Also tbh i'm not too sure about Lapin bypassing resistance, it's more a case of "different power null compared to the resistance")

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I mean, Meguca baseline p.null resistance came from the witch from portable game (or is it from the rumor?). Lapin and others like Mami bypassed that.

 

[Kaltias]

It comes from Battle Pentagram.

What I meant is that Mami bypassing it is fair because magical girls resist having their powers sealed but she does it anyway.

Meanwhile Lapin reverts them to their normal human state, which is different and isn't the power null that they resist

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Fair.

But wouldn't that make Lapin P.null superior to Mami since it completely reverse the spell while Mami merely preventing it from activated?

 

[PaChi2]

stop the PMMM revisions

 

[Kaltias]

It doesn't reverse the spell, it turns the spellcaster into a normal human.

It isn't stronger as much as it's different

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Ah...

 

[Schnee_One]

How is AP a factor against someone who has mid godly regen, AKA, they can come back regardless of AP?

This^

I literally never understood this

 

[Kaltias]

If you are referring to Madoka, she is going to lose Mid-Godly (although that's because basic Mid-Godly is completely worthless for an abstract of her caliber so literally nothing changes).

AP doesn't beat Mid-Godly but higher scale of destruction compared to your cosmology does

 

[Dragopentling]

Yep switching vote to Madoka now FRA

 

[Jinsye]

IIRC its because Sonics basic attacks btpass Nid-Godly or smth

 

[First_Witch]

Godoka for reasons the Puella trio brought.

 

[Schnee_One]

Baedoka for the reasons given above.

Who's the most haxed 2A in Sonic by the way? I know SoA is the strongest technically

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Godoka for reasons the Puella trio brought.

Who are they?

 

[Schnee_One]

You, Genki, Kal

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

oh...

 

[Dragopentling]

oh...

Now we need more of Puella squad to stand up. Still more people arguing for Sonic than Madoka.