Jinsye
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Okay so. There are two things that have been bothering me about this verse for a while.
7-A AP
So, as far as I know, 7-A is based on... frankly nothing really. It's from massively upscaling to a 7-B feat, and also Mami Tomoe chip damaging Walpurgisnacht, who is 6-C. Neither of which should be valid for 7-A because it's not one of the two possible tiers she can scale to.
The 7-B feat is 50 megatons at the moment (if you accept creation calcs as = to destruction but that's a can of worms I do not want to open at the minute), which is a 2x difference which isn't that big but we have no real evidence to assume that our one-shot gap is that high (as we don't assume that).
If you really want to upscale, go to 7-B+, but I don't think 7-A works under our current assumptions. Chip damaging Wal means nothing btw. We don't scale to chip damage.
Homura Abilities
Most of her abilities come from here. WOG states she is a similar state of existence to Madoka, so obviously she should get all of Madoka's existential abilities, right?
Now, that's great but like.
lol.
Even if you want to ignore that, this is very clearly written by a person who isn't reliable WoG.
This is written as speculation, not actual confirmation. An author providing confirmation would not write in these languages or rely on Japanese accounts. This is most likely just a speculation page, not actual WoG.
So logically, this removes something from Homura, but it depends on how far you want to go. If you want to fully go far, you would remove Acausality type 5, Omnipresence, Abstract Existence, etc.
But this could be saved a little bit by changing the justification.
Kyubey says this. He says Homura is a new principle being born into the universe. This is similar to what he said when talking to Madoka. Add that to Homura becoming an existence known as 'evil' and her contrast as a demon to a god, you could make an argument that their state of existence is similar. But the current justification is very flimsy, and probably needs notable rewriting.
Conclusion
So, we need to downgrade 7-A and also rewrite Homura's justification for her abilities. I would like the CRT to stay on topic however, if you want to dispute the abilities themselves (for example, if you don't think Acausality type 5 is legit for other reasons) then you can deal with those in a separate thread.
7-A AP
So, as far as I know, 7-A is based on... frankly nothing really. It's from massively upscaling to a 7-B feat, and also Mami Tomoe chip damaging Walpurgisnacht, who is 6-C. Neither of which should be valid for 7-A because it's not one of the two possible tiers she can scale to.
The 7-B feat is 50 megatons at the moment (if you accept creation calcs as = to destruction but that's a can of worms I do not want to open at the minute), which is a 2x difference which isn't that big but we have no real evidence to assume that our one-shot gap is that high (as we don't assume that).
If you really want to upscale, go to 7-B+, but I don't think 7-A works under our current assumptions. Chip damaging Wal means nothing btw. We don't scale to chip damage.
Homura Abilities
Most of her abilities come from here. WOG states she is a similar state of existence to Madoka, so obviously she should get all of Madoka's existential abilities, right?
Now, that's great but like.
lol.
Even if you want to ignore that, this is very clearly written by a person who isn't reliable WoG.
So logically, this removes something from Homura, but it depends on how far you want to go. If you want to fully go far, you would remove Acausality type 5, Omnipresence, Abstract Existence, etc.
But this could be saved a little bit by changing the justification.
Kyubey says this. He says Homura is a new principle being born into the universe. This is similar to what he said when talking to Madoka. Add that to Homura becoming an existence known as 'evil' and her contrast as a demon to a god, you could make an argument that their state of existence is similar. But the current justification is very flimsy, and probably needs notable rewriting.
Conclusion
So, we need to downgrade 7-A and also rewrite Homura's justification for her abilities. I would like the CRT to stay on topic however, if you want to dispute the abilities themselves (for example, if you don't think Acausality type 5 is legit for other reasons) then you can deal with those in a separate thread.