Madara vs Momoshiki

[TauanVictor]

Madara Uchiha VS Momoshiki Ōtsutsuki​

• Fight Location: Naruto and Sasuke VS Momoshiki
• Starting Distance: 500 Meters
• Madara Jūbi Jinchūriki Dual Rinnegan + Rinnesharingan and Momoshiki with Kinshiki Absorbed will be used. Momoshiki can use Lava Golem during the fight
• Both in character
• Restricted immortality

Madara: 11 (@Wrath_Of_Itachi, @KingTempest, @Popted2, @Rocker1189, @M3X, @MrKerf, @Shadowbokunohero, @Omimi, @JooCipher, @OneBleachHurricane, @UchihaSlayer96)
Momoshiki: 5 (@theultimate5105, @Bernkastelll, @Gokukid2005, @Pain_to12, @Nelliels)
Inconclusive: 1 (@Slacjow)

 

[KingTempest]

TSO gg

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

TSB GG

 

[theultimate5105]

Momoshiki stomps Madara is >200 exatons when Momoshiki is >>>>>>one shotting a 355 exaton character momoshiki can also absorb TSBs also nothing stops Momoshiki from turning him into a chakra fruit

 

[Rocker1189]

I don't think momo can just turn anyone into a fruit neither do I see why he can absorb TSBs. Anyway I vote Madara not only for TSB but also a variety of other skills that I can't bother to list cause it is too long.

 

[Popted2]

Madara FRA

 

[M3X_2.0]

Momoshiki is >>>>>>one shotting a 355 exaton character

No, far from being real.

 

[theultimate5105]

No, far from being real.

lol 50% BSM Naruto one shot toneri Naruto has multiple forms higher then that by wide margins

 

[M3X_2.0]

Fine, I'll pretend you didn't write this. Voting Madara for the reasons above.

 

[theultimate5105]

I don't think momo can just turn anyone into a fruit neither do I see why he can absorb TSBs. Anyway I vote Madara not only for TSB but also a variety of other skills that I can't bother to list cause it is too long.

He has no reason not to be able to absorb TSBs he can absorb SO6Ps jutsu and kekkai genkais his absorption works on immobilized individuals which he can do with various methods

 

[theultimate5105]

Fine, I'll pretend you didn't write this. Voting Madara for the reasons above.

Lol who would have thought 50% BSM is superior to SO6Ps mode I guess literally everyone has been wrong this whole time

 

[M3X_2.0]

Let's not take into account the age Naruto had when fighting Toneri, and what Naruto did during 20+ years after that.

 

[theultimate5105]

Let's not take into account the age Naruto had when fighting Toneri, and what Naruto did during 20+ years after that.

and any reason he got weaker lol even then Toneri literally viewed Kinshiki and Momoshiki as gods which would constitute a pretty big gap

 

[M3X_2.0]

Sigh. Just vote and stop with headcanon.

 

[theultimate5105]

Sigh. Just vote and stop with headcanon.

Headcanon when you can’t debunk it of course you would say that

 

[M3X_2.0]

No.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Momoshiki's superior AP is not large enough to make up for the wall of text of abilities Madara is about to pull out.

 

[KingTempest]

@KingTempest, @Wrath_Of_Itachi, @Rocker1189, @Popted2, @M3X, @Shadowbokunohero

One more till grace

 

[Omimi]

He has no reason not to be able to absorb TSBs he can absorb SO6Ps jutsu and kekkai genkais his absorption works on immobilized individuals which he can do with various methods

The thing is tsb also has power null which null/erase ninjutsu/chakra/hax etc so I doubt momo can absorbed it sine none of the absorption user ever shown to absorbe them and momo jutsu also fall under ninjutsu
I know that tsb also listed under ninjutsu so he could probebly absorbed it as well
Or power null or absorption cancel each other
but we can't say one will overcome other without any feat

 

[theultimate5105]

The thing is tsb also has power null which null/erase ninjutsu/chakra/hax etc so I doubt momo can absorbed it sine none of the absorption user ever shown to absorbe them and momo jutsu also fall under ninjutsu
I know that tsb also listed under ninjutsu so he could probebly absorbed it as well
Or power null or absorption cancel each other
but we can't say one will overcome other without any feat

His absorbtion uses the rinnegan which would resist it

 

[Omimi]

Only six path chakra/NE resist tsb
and we don't know if momo has six path chakra or not

 

[MrKerf]

Madara FRA

 

[theultimate5105]

Only six path chakra/NE resist tsb
and we don't know if momo has six path chakra or not

Momo has Nature energy thats what divine trees are also Rinnegans are six paths/otsusuki chakra

 

[Bernkastelll]

Momoshiki > Kaguya > Madara

 

[TauanVictor]

Momoshiki > Kaguya > Madara

Based on what?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Based on what?

Momoshiki stated to be an existance greater than Kaguya

Kaguya literally making a army to fight against him

Urashiki (anime character) saying that Kaguya betrayed them and feared their existances

 

[Omimi]

We don't use this statement here if we did he would've scale to ETSB lol

 

[Bernkastelll]

We don't use this statement here if we did he would've scale to ETSB lol

1-Reasons to not use?
2-Why would him scale to ETSB?

 

[M3X_2.0]

Momoshiki > Kaguya > Madara

Momoshiki is not above Kaguya.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Momoshiki is not above Kaguya.

Proofs?

 

[M3X_2.0]

Naruto and Boruto manga.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Naruto and Boruto manga.

Yes, I asked proofs, not the name of the verse

 

[M3X_2.0]

And I told you: The proofs are the Naruto and Boruto mangas.

 

[Bernkastelll]

And I told you: The proofs are the Naruto and Boruto mangas.

1-Momoshiki stated to be a existence even greater than Kaguya
2-Kaguya made a army to fight against him and others otsutsukis
3- Urashiki (anime character) stated that Kaguya betrayed them and feared their existance.

these things put Momoshiki above Kaguya

 

[M3X_2.0]

Ok let me link dozens of threads where this was discussed ans rejected, because everything is baseless and flawed

 

[Bernkastelll]

Ok let me link dozens of threads where this was discussed ans rejected, because everything is baseless and flawed

Manga sources are baseless?

 

[JooCipher]

Madara FRA

 

[M3X_2.0]

4 Sources: Manga, anime, novel and game. Momoshiki NEVER stated that he is stronger than her, it's always bullshit like threat greater than her, wich means nothing. "Kaguya feared him" She feared 3 Otsutsuki, and this is pre fruit Kaguya.

You either respect how the scaling is now or create a CRT to get it accepted.

 

[Bernkastelll]

4 Sources: Manga, anime, novel and game. Momoshiki NEVER stated that he is stronger than her, it's always bullshit like threat greater than her, wich means nothing. "Kaguya feared him" She feared 3 Otsutsuki, and this is pre fruit Kaguya.

1-

2-No, Kaguya was directly stated by Urashiki (on the anime) that she feared them, and that is the reason that she made a army

3-I don't see how that is relevant, Momoshiki give more trouble to Naruto and Sasuke that are strongest than their young versions

 

[M3X_2.0]

First scan means nothing. Greater existance means what? You're just juggling. If he were stronger, it would have a statement saying that.

Exactly what I said. She feared 3 characters, not Momoshiki alone.

Adult Naruto and Sasuke arent stronger than their teen self. And why are you lying to me? "Momoshiki gave more trouble" He literally got stomped by Naruto, after getting his chakra absorbed during hours, and Sasuke, who also spent a lot of chakra with the portal. In the end Naruto one shot him with a Rasengan with black receivers on him.