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Madara vs Momoshiki

First scan means nothing. Greater existance means what? You're just juggling. If he were stronger, it would have a statement saying that.

Exactly what I said. She feared 3 characters, not Momoshiki alone.

Adult Naruto and Sasuke arent stronger than their teen self. And why are you lying to me? "Momoshiki gave more trouble" He literally got stomped by Naruto, after getting his chakra absorbed during hours, and Sasuke, who also spent a lot of chakra with the portal. In the end Naruto one shot him with a Rasengan with black receivers on him.
1- ''Is a threat of a existance even greather than kaguya'', how that doesnt means stronger? or do u think that Sasuke was saying that Momoshiki was just big than her?
2-Momoshiki is the strongest, the others are just like servants.
3-They are, go read their profiles, and u know what Outliers or some similar thing is? Sasuke had fights against Kinshiki, Kinshiki is only a servant of Momoshiki, or do u think that base Naruto is stronger than Kcm Naruto?
 
Ok, now you are using your own scaling. Naruto and Sasuke as adults are not stronger than their teen self, make a CRT for it. No, they stomping Momoshiki isn't an outlier. Momoshiki is simply fodder. You couldn't find a statement for him to be stronger, and need to have "threat" existance statements, wich are vague, and is about 3 characters, not only 1. And stop ******* ignoring this point, its 3 dudes against 1 dude before a power up (shinju).
The funny thing is Momoshiki scales above someone who has a higher accepted calc then Kaguya
Jokes on you, she massively scales above him too.
 
And since grace started, debates ends here. Match will be added.
 
Ok, now you are using your own scaling. Naruto and Sasuke as adults are not stronger than their teen self, make a CRT for it. No, they stomping Momoshiki isn't an outlier. Momoshiki is simply fodder. You couldn't find a statement for him to be stronger, and need to have "threat" existance statements, wich are vague, and is about 3 characters, not only 1. And stop ******* ignoring this point, its 3 dudes against 1 dude before a power up (shinju).
Why do I need to make a CRT if it is on their profiles and I agree? Lmfao, I already showed feats, Momoshiki scales above his servant who can match Sasuke, base Momoshiki could defeat Kcm naruto, but after a bit, Base naruto defeated a fused Momoshiki, or do u think that it isnt an outlier? for me, you are making ur own scales
 
IMO,

Kaguya was mostly going on what information she had at that time, which would result in the information and whatever she wrote becoming outdated in the present day.

She would also have no idea nor information how stronger the other Otsutsuki would become compared to her, so she would have created an army just in case.

Keep in mind the Kaguya that wrote that scroll would have been either Pre-Fruit Kaguya after betraying Isshiki or Post-Fruit Kaguya Post IT.

Which doesn't factor in the Amp Kaguya would have gotten merging with the Naruto-Planet's God Tree.
 
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Ok, now you are using your own scaling. Naruto and Sasuke as adults are not stronger than their teen self, make a CRT for it. No, they stomping Momoshiki isn't an outlier. Momoshiki is simply fodder. You couldn't find a statement for him to be stronger, and need to have "threat" existance statements, wich are vague, and is about 3 characters, not only 1. And stop ******* ignoring this point, its 3 dudes against 1 dude before a power up (shinju).

Jokes on you, she massively scales above him too.
You literally have nothing that says she scales above him The wiki thinks he is superior to him at 355 exatons compared to 270 exatons the series says they are superior to her again stop using your headcanon as facts
also multiple votes were for TSOs which were shown to not be a wincon so they were debunked
 
And one of their Abilities is Power Nullification, unless that is put on Momoshiki's profile, he won't be able to absorb them.
Which he bypasses via having natural energy nobody with natural energy has the resistence yet they can still interact with them and it can absorb stuff that immobilizes him proving that him interacting with something when absorbing it means nothing
 
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Which he bypasses via having natural energy nobody with natural energy has the resistence yet they can still interact with them
Then make CRT to give him the same Powers, Abilities, and Resistances as Juubi Jins and Six Paths Chakra users.

And Natural Energy users not having the resistance is because the profiles are outdated.

You are aware that there are multiple CRTs planned but not yet made due to current CRTs.
 
Then make CRT to give him the same Powers, Abilities, and Resistances as Juubi Jins and Six Paths Chakra users.

And Natural Energy users not having the resistance is because the profiles are outdated.

You are aware that there are multiple CRTs planned but not yet made due to current CRTs.
it can absorb stuff that immobilizes him proving that him interacting with something when absorbing it means nothing as it is absorbed without resistence from anything without even touching him as it is turned into energy before it touches him he also absorbs other six paths techniques
 
it can absorb stuff that immobilizes him proving that him interacting with something when absorbing it means nothing anyways when absorbing by the time it even touches him it is absorbed he also absorbs other six paths techniques
Again make a CRT, and absorbing Six Paths Techniques does not prove resistance to Power Nullification

Unless you think Six Paths Techniques have Power Nullification
 
Again make a CRT, and absorbing Six Paths Techniques does not prove resistance to Power Nullification

Unless you think Six Paths Techniques have Power Nullification
He can absorb similar techniquesc(six paths) and his absorbtion doesn't touch them

Here is how it works TSBs would fly in at him he would absorb them turning them into chakra before they hit him this is important because TSBs only null on contact with something anything else is fair game or else we would have passive powernull for everyone with TSBs (I would love that but its not happening)
 
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He can absorb similar techniquesc(six paths) and his absorbtion doesn't touch them
And? Six Paths Techniques aren't resistant to absorption.
Here is how it works TSBs would fly in at him he would absorb them turning them into chakra before they hit him this is important because TSBs only null on contact with something anything else is fair game
Madara rarely uses his TSO as projectiles, he regularly uses them as long rods or shields.

Momoshiki's absorption isn't contact based but it still has short range.

Momoshiki is also facing 4 or 5 other Madaras

Madara's is scales to SPSM Naruto who in turn is scales to Kaguya who scales above Toneri as well.
 
And? Six Paths Techniques aren't resistant to absorption.
it’s similar in jutsu because some People try to pull him having no feats for absorbing six paths techniques
Madara rarely uses his TSO as projectiles, he regularly uses them as long rods or shields.

Momoshiki's absorption isn't contact based but it still has short range.
it actually sucks stuff Into a point so it has a much longer range then it looks
Momoshiki is also facing 4 or 5 other Madaras

Madara's is scales to SPSM Naruto who in turn is scales to Kaguya who scales above Toneri as well.
not accepted on the wiki for that scaling also the limbos cannot do much to him without madaras jutsus
 
Kaguya: Moon level+ (Stated to be far stronger than the Sage of the Six Paths. Should be far stronger than Tenseigan Chakra Mode Toneri)

SPSM Naruto: Moon level+ (Received half of Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki's Power. Fought and matched Dual Rinnegan Jūbi Jinchūriki Madara. Fought and damaged Kaguya Ōtsutsuki. The Six Path's Chibaku Tensei he made with Sasuke is this strong)

Madara: Moon level+ (Fought and damaged Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke. Even stronger than before after awakening the Rinne Sharingan)
 
Here's a hint on AP Value

5-C: 29.6 Exatons - Baseline

5-C+: 231.3 Exatons - Mid End

5-C+/Low 5-B: 433 Exatons - End

What Tier are Madara, Sasuke, and Naruto?
Oof (that profile is pretty bad for showing their power) oh well Momoshiki still scales far above Madara in the scaling chain with it being Fused Momoshiki>Base Momoshiki>Kinshiki>>Toneri<<Kaguya>=Naruto=Madara
 
Fused Momoshiki > Kinshiki > Base Momoshiki > Toneri 281 Exatons

Madara scales to/above 274.5 Exatons

Base Momoshiki doesn't have Striking Strength nor Lifting Strength unlike Kinshiki.

And Base Momoshiki's AP when he knocked out Naruto was amped by Chakra Pills and the Kote, aided by Naruto intentionally absorbing the TBB into his Kurama Avatar to minimize the damage in the area.
 
Fused Momoshiki > Kinshiki > Base Momoshiki > Toneri 281 Exatons

Madara scales to/above 274.5 Exatons

Base Momoshiki doesn't have Striking Strength nor Lifting Strength unlike Kinshiki.

And Base Momoshiki's AP when he knocked out Naruto was amped by Chakra Pills and the Kote, aided by Naruto intentionally absorbing the TBB into his Kurama Avatar to minimize the damage in the area.
Momoshiki is Kinshikis superior in a clan all about power it’s blatant also toneri is 355 exatons now
 
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