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well Itachi was capable of creating Illusions so complex that he could make his GF experience her entire life from beginning to her death at the age of 80 in a Zeptosecond, which is 0.000000001 billionths of a second. not sure if that counts for anything here tho
 
Probabaly not since everyone thinks that number of people affected > Complexity of mind hax. Also Tsukuyomi is Itachi's speciality so. But then it is IT we are talking about which is even more ridiculous.
 
so Madara could potentially completely break Mew's will by making him suffer 100 hundred years worth of pain in a few seconds, well that's under the assumption that Genjutsu works in the first place tho
 
I'm pretty sure Madara should at least be comparable to an Anbu Itachi's Genjutsu level, lol the only real difference between the regular Tsukuyomi that Madara should have and IT is the Range, instead of focusing it on one person's eyes you reflect it on the moon to cover far more range and capture far more people with it
 
What a turn around for Madara. Seems that text wall on Mewtwo's page didn't mean much in the end. I guess I'll switch my vote.
 
Jobbo said:
What a turn around for Madara. Seems that text wall on Mewtwo's page didn't mean much in the end. I guess I'll switch my vote.
It would have meant a lot more when Madara was in the disadvantage in speed and also if Mewtwo used them in character and if Mewtwo's disable was actually good.
 
Pretty sure this was already concluded and added, only to be removed

But if it is still ongoing what exactly are the votes?
 
Your vote comes from soul rip, which had to make a mental connection first (coming from the profile anyway), which he can't do due to mental defenses. Not to mention he'd have to touch Mewtwo, which the faster, stronger, forcefield spamming clone would not let happen.
 
Except I also mentioned the presence of Limbo clones which are invisible and act independently fromk Madara, not to mention that they can hold Mewtwo just enough to have his soul ripped out and you forget that Madara can go for infinite Tsukuyomi for a guaranteed win.
 
I do not know but if Madara is affected by something, the limbo clones disappear

I do not think Mewtwo can instantly kill madara so limbo can hurt mewtwo and let madara Do what he can to neutralize mewtwo like Scealing Chibaku, Mugen Tsukuyomi, Rinnegan abilities (Soul rip) and other

Madara has the edge here
 
IT isn't even a win. It's completely useless here. It's not even planetary mindhax because it's boosted by the moon. Limbos can be sensed and are so below Mewtwo in power that they're meaningless. And you're acting if Mewtwo didn't have a dozen ways to get rid of Madara and the limbo clones before he can soul rip.
 
What?

Moon boosts it to planetary range, the fact that it can affect that many people across the planet still means the same.
 
That's not how mental abilities work. I made a thread on it a few days ago. Ace from the DCAU doesn't have planetary mindhax because she mindhaxes America through the television. No fiction treats using a range increaser as a showing of better mental abilities. None.

Blue gave the thread linking it.
 
It is not boosted bythe moon in anyway, the moon only means that he does not not need everyone to stare at his 3rd eye.
 
Burden of proof is on you to prove that it's planertary regardless, because best showing without the moon is low.
 
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