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From my knowledge Magic and Chakra are very different
Magic isn't even explained in depth in 7ds
Magic isn't even explained in depth in 7ds
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Very very lame, how does this even works in Verses that have LITERALLY both supernatural energies and are treated SO DIFFERENT? Such as MCU with natural energy/lifeforce and also has Magic/WitchecraftCome the **** on
It doesn't need to be the same exact ability. That's why it's called equalization.
Someone who can absorb ninjutsu can absorb magic. Someone who can redirect magic can redirect Ninjutsu.
Nagato can absorb Cruel Sun. Meliodas can Full Counter Fireball Jutsu.
That's how it works.
then whatever is the most similar is equalized and whatever is not, is notVery very lame, how does this even works in Verses that have LITERALLY both supernatural energies and are treated SO DIFFERENT? Such as MCU with natural energy/lifeforce and also has Magic/Witchecraft
I think you can equalize the energies since a mod agrees with verse equalizationCurrently from the looks of it chakra and magic seem a bit too distinct from each other to be equalised, albeit I only watched up to season 2 of the 7ds anime so I don't have good knowledge of it.
Scans would be helpful, and if this is a stomp then I can give Zeldris knowledge and access to his second key.
But I am the Fandom Owner.I think you can equalize the energies since a mod agrees with verse equalization
One pieces energy systems is too complex to equalize.Based on the page featuring equalisation and fights I saw previously, I assumed energies had to be similar? Whenever I saw one piece related fights, they all couldn't be equalised due to how distinct haki was from other energies.
Wouldn't the same apply for chakra and magic?
Then this would mean that zeldris can eat obito's jutsu's and fuel his magic and get knowledge of obito.Very very lame, how does this even works in Verses that have LITERALLY both supernatural energies and are treated SO DIFFERENT? Such as MCU with natural energy/lifeforce and also has Magic/Witchecraft
I would wait. Ninjutsu and magic are really similar.Was asked to close this, should I? Is it a stomp?
Another mod agrees that they can be equalized so just equalize them just to be safeI guess the most sure-fire way to deal with it is just post scans that show how similar or different they are from each other for it to work.
Otherwise Zeldris can get swapped or have his stronger keys used.
He cannot touch Obito thoughSince energies are equalized Zeldris can ignore kamui and seal obito chakra with a touch since he has knowledge on genjutsu he will avoid it
I mean when Obito touches him his chakra will be sealedHe cannot touch Obito though
and why would Obito physically touch him and proof of his null being constantly active.I mean when Obito touches him his chakra will be sealed
It always active when he is conscious as soon and obito touches Zeldris god will seal his chakraand why would Obito physically touch him and proof of his null being constantly active.
Is this really the case then why can't be haki equalized when there are (probably) a similar thing that haki did in other verses?Come the **** on
It doesn't need to be the same exact ability. That's why it's called equalization.
Someone who can absorb ninjutsu can absorb magic. Someone who can redirect magic can redirect Ninjutsu.
Nagato can absorb Cruel Sun. Meliodas can Full Counter Fireball Jutsu.
That's how it works.
No it is not since if that was the case Zeldris would literally null anyone who touched him in verseIt always active when he is conscious as soon and obito touches Zeldris god will seal his chakra
When gid is activated yes physical contact with Zeldris will seal you unless you resist powernull which a lot of nnt characters doNo it is not since if that was the case Zeldris would literally null anyone who touched him in verse
Exactly and god is based on physical contact is is always active when Zeldris is consiousIf obito resist powernull then he resist god is what speeds mean
Until he runs out of eyes then Zeldris seals him and one shots with hellblazeIts either going incon or nothing since its equalized now. Obito just continues being intangible and uses izanagi
Try to make good argument firstZeldris fra
Zeldris negs kamui waits for obito to touch him then Obito gets his chakra sealed then Zeldris one shots him with hellblazeTry to make good argument first
If someone finds an ability similar to Haki (which I can not think of) then go aheadIs this really the case then why can't be haki equalized when there are (probably) a similar thing that haki did in other verses?
Using haki as an example btw
If you can prove that magic in 7DS is different fundamentally from chakra then they wouldn't be treated as being equalized energy sources. Most of the time its more due to the nature of it (Magic not naturally being part of someone or requiring to pull it from the environment rather than yourself) than anything else.To quote the SBA
Lets use two systems I'm vaguely aware of: Chakra (Naruto), Ki (Dragon Ball), Magic (DC Comics)Verse equalization: Similar supernatural aspects of verses get equalized in a reasonable fashion. So a supernatural energy that almost everyone in a Verse has, which is necessary to fight the characters of said Verse, will be assumed to be the equivalent energy that the opponents use in their techniques so that a proper fight can happen.
Furthermore, attacks that require a special type of energy to be effective, like anti-magic requiring magic, will be assumed to work against the energies of different Verses, as long as they are somehow similar and the mechanics are somehow compatible with the known mechanics behind the energies from different Verses. For example, mind control resistance by being a capable mind user would also work against other Verses, but mind control resistance through a strong will would not necessarily work against mind control from other Verses. It is also important to note that characters won't lose or gain any abilities or resistances which they do or do not inherently possess. However, if an ability has a weakness, condition, caveat, or limitation, consistently shown throughout its use (such as not working on characters under a specific condition, like energy gap) or stated by a valid and uncontradicted statement, then it should be applicable after the equalization.
Equalization works highly on a case-by-case basis, so many relevant cases should be discussed in the versus thread itself.
So can Chakra and Ki be equalized? Yes:
So can Chakra and Magic (DC) be equalized? No:
- Both are similar in nature and similar in mechanics (though with some differences)
- Everyone has it more or less, but you have to have training to use it
- Its based off of the person's life energy
So if you had Kaguya fight King Piccolo, you could assume she would be able to absorb his Ki attacks since its similar to chakra. If you had Kaguya fight Zatanna and she fired a magical beam, the same assumption could not be said.
- Magic is no inherit with people, its the left over energy of creation
- Not everyone can use magic, even with training
- Its not based on how strong the person is, but their connection and attunement to the magical energy left over from creation
- The way magic is treated in DC is fundamentally different from how chakra is treated
The op decision is finalI don't have a leg in this race, but to quote my self on another thread:
If you can prove that magic in 7DS is different fundamentally from chakra then they wouldn't be treated as being equalized energy sources. Most of the time its more due to the nature of it (Magic not naturally being part of someone or requiring to pull it from the environment rather than yourself) than anything else.
It is for the sake of the thread, but it also must be noted in the OP itself rather than in the body of the thread.The op decision is final
Specify the keys and equalization in the op1 Zeldris
Also what are Obito's wincons?