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Ok, since OP Post-Timeskip characters have now been upgraded, this match is invalid. However, since I'm too lazy to create a new thread, I've decided to reuse this thread and simply change Luffy's key to his Pre-Timeskip key. Now new votes can be cast and new debates can be brought up.
 
Luffy's AP: Higher than 108.57 Megatons in Base, Higher than 217.14 Megatons with Gear 2, Higher than 434.28 Megatons with Gear 3

Luffy's LS: Higher than 1.05e+9 kg

Pain's AP: At least 33.10 megatons with 7-B bodies, 1.56 gigatons with High 7-A bodies, 15.3 gigatons with Chibaku Tensei

Pain's LS: 6.77 e+9 kilograms
 
Agreed. Pain's advantages now far outweigh Luffy's advantages. Luffy doesn't have his Kenbun Haki to sense his opponent's movements, and he can't control his Conqueror's Haki to force Pain's summoned animals unconscious.

Luffy still has his Gears which could blitz and destroy the 7-B Pains, but don't think he can really do anything against the High 7-A Pains. Even his rubber body probably wouldn't be able to withstand a Shinra Tensei with the AP disadvantage.
 
He should be able to one-shot the 7-B pains with two-handed G2 attacks. Shinra Tensei shouldn't damage him, neither would Chibaku tensei- but he's bascially getting sealed by the ladder and would struggle to even harm the greater H7-A pains.
Outside of blitzing Pain, Luffy gets bullied.
 
If Luffy throws a punch he gets soul ripped.
He gets jumped by animals.
He gets sent flying from everything.
What can he really do?
 
This smells like a stomp tbh. Pain has too many things that Luffy can't directly resist unlike his post-timeskip key. (Also the Luffy link still leads to his post-ts)
 
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