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Except, that isn't what it says.
It explicitly specifies whatever the strongest tier is, not key. Go get the wording changed.
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Luffy vs Raditz
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It explicitly specifies whatever the strongest tier is, not key. Go get the wording changed.
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Is that accepted here (for vs battles)? (not saying it won't kill Luffy because it definitely will)
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It's pretty clear what it means dude, I'm not sure How your interpreting it that way?
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Also, fix your tone. Quit acting like a child.
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Ki Manipulation (Dragon Ball)
Ki (気 "Ki", lit. "Air, Breath"), also known as Chi/Qi, Youki (妖気 Yōki, lit. "Bewitching energy") or simply Energy (エネルギー Enerugī) is the secret energy that lies hidden inside the bodies of humans. By utilizing materialized energy converted from energy inside one's body, one can produce...
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Last I checked yeah for decent gaps yeah
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Lets lynch the English language
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I'm not interpreting a goddamn thing is the funny thing, it says what it says. It doesn't say what youre saying it does. They explicitly note it as whatever is the highest tier for the character, that, would be Gear 5 in this case.
No? Grow some skin. Better yet, don't instigate shit "bluh bluh confidence", if you do not like the way it's worded, hate to break it to you, but it's gonna be you who has to change shit, not me.
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Luffy still can grab it and throw it backYes he does, he's almost 100x weaker, ki has evaporating and destructive properyies as soon as the gap becomes like 2x.
You like, do know what ki does right?
Thank god internal attacks are the literal worst type of duraneg and is more like dura mitigation given every character ever has internals that scale somewhat relative to their externals otherwise literally any punch ever would kill them
Post it.
Goddamn right, the fact that "yeha luffy gets one shot by a dude who cripples dudes almost 100x above luffy while not even trying and also has huge **** off AOE and-" is even an argument is asinine.
******* Teach.
It legit explodes his insides, not dura neg as in pressure points
Luffy's profile
Precog + toon force + dura neg = dead Raditz. Also reflect all of his attacks
- Attack Reflection (Can reflects attacks directed towards the user[48][16])
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I mean you can keep talking like that but don't be surprised where that brings you. Though if I were to guess you're probably already familiar considering how you're not staff anymore. Lmao.
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Nope. In Dragon Ball characters often will flex just because they can. Assume Raditz's knows Luffy's weak, he's gonna throw a tiny ki blast. If Luffy dodges, he's gonna get ticked off and just gonna AoE cuz why not.
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Walk away instead of instigating, it aint that hard
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Sigh yep, big 3 three thread moment.
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Is this shit genetic?????
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Mostly yes
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Worse, spiritual.
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Nowhere? I pray to god if you think that rubs you wrong the way you get some skin. Jesus imagine not even saying anything yet being offended.
Thank god all things considered, no more of that "make sure you coddle everyone, staff have to uphold an arbitrary image most staff don't even adhere to".
He would be vaporized.
He ain't Killer Queen, it's still just explosions like 100x weaker than him.
Yep read it, doesn't show any useful examples.
Raditz can LITERALLY do the same, he has attack nullification, read the ki page.
Just as I said above.
And neither is Raditz? Raditz had a dogshit upbringing, no shit he's gonna end up bad, but nothing implicates he's somehow worse compared to Teach. This is like arguing Vegeta is pure evil, he sure as hell ain't good, and def did evil vile shit, but not like he was unable to redeem himself.
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No
Prove that
Doesn't matter what the examples since the ability isn't classified as limitied/minor
Once after Luffy reflect his attacks, he'll just charge dura neg ggs
What prevents Raditz being pure evil? He was literally thrown into heck while the video shows that Teach is just misunderstood
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should have thrown Sasuke in here smh
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Pretty sure it's Luffy at his best. Do I have to specify that to every thread?
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You've said you're using his raid arc key, which aint his latest iirc
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Literally him tanking a punch from Goku and his insides not melting
Dude, literally NLF. Why hasn't Luffy just LUCKED his way through every fight? Why didn't Kaidou die of a heart attack? Wouldve been lucky right? That ain't how this works.
Raditz can nullify his own attacks, read the ki page.
Also Luffy can't, the attacks are like 100x stronger than him or anything he's reflected. It'd disintegrate him and the rubber he uses to deflect it.
Uh, the fact he just isn't? He's an asshole, but like not any worse compared to Vegeta, and I'm sure as wel all know, Vegeta wasn't PURE evil. Now he sure as hell ain't good, dude murdered for fun, but so does Teach, or a lot of OP dudes really. Hell Raditz just kind of doing his job.
So Gear 5?
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I'm new into this key thing so I don't know much. But yes, Luffy be at his latest in this matchup
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Okay good to know.
How does Raditz get an attack off when Luffy can see the future?
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Literally him tanking a punch from Goku and his insides not melting
Dude, literally NLF. Why hasn't Luffy just LUCKED his way through every fight? Why didn't Kaidou die of a heart attack? Wouldve been lucky right? That ain't how this works.
Raditz can nullify his own attacks, read the ki page.
Also Luffy can't, the attacks are like 100x stronger than him or anything he's reflected. It'd disintegrate him and the rubber he uses to deflect it.
Uh, the fact he just isn't? He's an asshole, but like not any worse compared to Vegeta, and I'm sure as wel all know, Vegeta wasn't PURE evil. Now he sure as hell ain't good, dude murdered for fun, but so does Teach, or a lot of OP dudes really. Hell Raditz just kind of doing his job.
So Gear 5?
Raditz's profile doesn't have resistance to dura neg shown
It doesn't matter cause Luffy is alive in all scenarios due to his immense luck
Why would attack reflection bound to AP?
Him being in heck while Vegeta isn't proves that Raditz is more evil than Vegeta
Ofc
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3 times Goku's power (scaling from kid Gohan)
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He flicks his fingers and then Luffy dies because he can't do anything to stop it.
Here's a better question, what the hell is Luffy doing against an attack that literally disintegrates him that can have any AOE he wants up to literally engulfing the whole planet?
Luffy can't even kill Raditz,
He curbs 66 zettatoners. 668 zettatons as Ozaru. It's in the AP blog.
Luffy's duraneg isn't even real duraneg, it's the WORST type, the type that simply bypasses it a lil. Shit is like arguing Star Platinum could crush Freeza's heart. Yeah that type of duraneg would work on dudes within his ballpark or some degree above, but Raditz is so far above Luffy shit don't even matter.
Raditz's profile doesn't have resistance to dura neg shown
His luck is actual dogshit what, being lucky and have some insane battle changing luck, are two different things, Luffy has the former.
Dude he uses rubber to deflect it, not some magic limitless hax.
Vegeta literally went to hell
Yep thanks for confirming.
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Off topic but what does BoZ stand for cuz I forgot
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Literally planetary, he can control his AOE, can make it a few meters, can make it cover the whole planet.
But his basic ones engulf mountain ranges yeah
Beg of Z.Off topic but what does BoZ stand for I forgot
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CelestialVortex01
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Ah yeah now I remember thanks
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His luck manipulation simply isn't that powerful rarely dose any character have all uses of a power listed and we should honestly elaborate on it more
Durability negation has it's limits many forms of it only go so far, especially stuff that isn't inherently super natural like organ targeting which an explosion inside of him would be. The 60 fold gap is more then enough to overcome that.
Because if the attack is strong enough it'll shatter the thing trying to reflect it
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Beginning of ZOff topic but what does BoZ stand for cuz I forgot
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Actually it canLuffy's duraneg isn't even real duraneg, it's the WORST type, the type that simply bypasses it a lil. Shit is like arguing Star Platinum could crush Freeza's heart. Yeah that type of duraneg would work on dudes within his ballpark or some degree above, but Raditz is so far above Luffy shit don't even matter.
His luck is actual dogshit what, being lucky and have some insane battle changing luck, are two different things, Luffy has the former.
Dude he uses rubber to deflect it, not some magic limitless hax.
Vegeta literally went to hell
Yep thanks for confirming.
Still useful, acts like a plot armour
Still doesn't prove it's ap wise
That was changed
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Dude. It can attack him within him. Raditz is legit 100x stronger, his internals, are within that ballpark. Obviously some stuff isn't gonna be 1:1, bit the gap is so huge unless Luffy's duraneg is like dozens of times above his own AP in raw power, that shit is gonna be a nuisance at best.
No it doesn't Luffy has gotten his ass BEAT before.
Yes it does? Do you think he could deflect a multiversal attack too?
Youre not changing shit two pages in dude, especially not after immediately confirming it as such.
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How his internals are stronger? Also reality warp still an options
But still alive
Can you show me where it says attack reflection is bound to ap
Wdym? In Buu Saga we saw Vegeta getting revived after wishing only good guys being brought back
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