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It was there before I don’t know why it was removed
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Lucifero vs Obito
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Again. Spatial EE isn't the same as Existence Eraser. Not including I believe it was magic nullification which wouldn't apply to Obito. There isn't anything for it having EE resistances on his profile
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So basically obito gets stomped like I said before he can’t do anything to devil hearts
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Yet his profile doesn't say he has Existence eraser resistances. Spatial eraser isn't the same as existence eraser. And again he still doesn't have a counter to the genjustu argument.
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Spatial EE is literally Existence Erasure... What do you think "EE" stands for? hell Langris's profile accepts that he has EE through his Spatial Magic.
Re-Look at the scan i posted again, Zenon didn't null Langris's Spatial Manipulation/Existence Erasure and i already explained this to Nelliels, read what i said to him to understand why he doesn't have EE resistances on his profile.
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what do you think ee is? spatial ee is just one form of ee. there's other forms but spatial ee is an ee
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Literally from Obito's Page.
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Alright so what I'm getting is that Lucifero's main win con is demon king presence, his powernull, and his heart being really cool or something.
If this is base Obito he's getting stomped and no he's not about to off bat genjutsu Lucifero, his main thing is generally always kamui spam. He'll try Kamuiing Lucifero and it'll get negged by Luciferos presence, his own spatial manipulation, he can evade as equally fast people can evade it so Kamui basically becomes an L for Obito to do. Kuruma is getting killed by Lucifero with ee, or absorb him since he's just energy. \
If this is base Obito he's getting stomped and no he's not about to off bat genjutsu Lucifero, his main thing is generally always kamui spam. He'll try Kamuiing Lucifero and it'll get negged by Luciferos presence, his own spatial manipulation, he can evade as equally fast people can evade it so Kamui basically becomes an L for Obito to do. Kuruma is getting killed by Lucifero with ee, or absorb him since he's just energy. \
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Juubito can use Genjutsu but he doesn't do it in-character.
The thing you're thinking of is Kamui (His Intang)
SBA is naturally assumed if not clarified within the OP.
So this is his Jūbi Jinchūriki (Controlled) Key.
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Okay. So first off he does use genjustu in Character uses it on the mizukage for 3 years. So his heart simply regenerated from being destroyed in that panel not actually resisting it. If he is placed under genjustu and TSO destroys his entire existence (different from spatial). Then Obito wins.
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Just pushing them away from him with Gravity Magic?
Like TSO's have dookie range while Lucifero's outrages them massively, he'll just keep them away from his body whilst crushing Juubito with his Gravity Magic.
Like TSO's have dookie range while Lucifero's outrages them massively, he'll just keep them away from his body whilst crushing Juubito with his Gravity Magic.
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He can't do that if he's under genjustu.
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That wasn't Juubito homie.
His heart wasn't destoryed in the first place.
Re-read Lucifero's profile again.
He isn't since it isn't I.C for Juubito to do so and TSO's aren't touching Lucifero giving his superior range and Gravity Magic.
Also Luficero arguably just regenerates from TSO's so those aren't a viable win-con for Juubito.
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Too can expand pretty far. In his berserk form he does it and its like tens of kilometers
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The issue with that would be if he did his entirety in one go (being that he can expand their sizes) and the reason he didn't use genjustu is because he's against a perfect jinchuriki and a EMS user. Genjustu wouldnt work anyways so why would he use it?
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what? Juubitos lifting strength is class T and he's pushed back other class T characters, he's not gonna be put down by the gravity magic.
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Its directly stated within the Databooks it only expands 70 Meters. not even close to even a Kilometre.
Only 70 Meters, which is ass range and would absolutely get negged by Lucifero's superior range with his Gravity Magic. Literal Head-Canon, prove that.
Also that's contradicted by the fact that Obito was able to control Yagura who was a perfect Jin.
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No? it most definitely does not say that, it can travel 70 meters before not being controlled anymore. But as we see with Obito, he quite literally made it expanded hundreds of meters.
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It’s also AP not just lifting strength
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How much stronger is Luciferos gravity magic?
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Your back. Thats awesome. Also lucferos gravity affects space and spacial manipulation counters truth seeker orbs as shown with kamui and might guy bending spaces. His gravity is passive and with his ap gap Obito will become a puddle and he only has low mid regen. So luci wins
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Like 6 times stronger than Obito ap also devil heart resist EE their was a crt about it
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Yeah i just re-read the scan about the 70 Meters and i completely misremembered that scan, my bad.
But my point still stands in that Lucifero massively outranges the TSO's with his Gravity Magic so he'll just push them away from himself, so far away that even if Juubito expanded them the'll still not hit him.
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Powernull the gravity magic
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Energy is not equalized luci resist powernull anyway. Spacial manipulation counters truth seeker orbs kamui and might guys kick.
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6 times stronger he will be crushed with no difficulty
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It is not 6 times stronger it is at most 4x stronger
and no what the hell is with this Gravity magic one Shots. It doesn’t it’s not even close to one shotting with the required gap to kill someone without regen being 7.5 times and with Obitos low mid (which is basically mid) it’s a even greater gap required
Lucifero also doesn’t resist Jubbitos Matter manip application of TSBs
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He scales above zagred who was unaffected by yuno’s molecular deconstruction
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Spacial manipulation counters truth seeker orbs
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You have to take in account that Luci overwhelmed Zora who had twice the amount of power that incomplete DU asta has which was 26.5 teratons. So if half power Luci overwhelmed someone who is 53 teratons and Obito is only 8.5 teratons what do you think is going to happen?
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Obito is first of all more then 8.5 second of all Obito is way above his calc
so deconstruction and not matter manip
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