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Lucifero vs Obito
- Thread starter Rasputin
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What's Obito's AP?
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Obito via erasure and genjutsu and fire manipulation
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Obito can't destroy Lucifero's heart, has resistance to fire manip also what is Obito's AP?
Epsilon_R
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8.5 Teratons
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And kakashi survive 8.5 teratons punch?
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Bruh, Lucifero no sold attacks from characters with 5 times more AP than that Wtf is Obito going to do?
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Die horribly
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Begged
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not resistance to fire manip on obitos level
Epsilon_R
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I don't see anything putting him above Lucifero's resistance. Not that it matters because Lucifero could simply get rid of the fire with gravity.
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What the gravity do? Obito can harm eight tails enough to make him yelp in pain, who can survive (but is badly damaged by) amaterasu's heat which is hotter than the sun and can vaporise steel. So it downscales even if its less than half the heat of Amaterasu. So what is Lucifero's resistance?
Shey
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The gravity would pull down the fire off him
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Obito FRA
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For what reasons?
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His own gravity manipulation which he will use if his enemy does, izanagi, and lifting strengf
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Obito literally can't kill Luci due to his invulnerability and far higher AP and Durability, Izanagi won't do anything because he's been shown to overrule the effect of an ability similar but stronger than Izanagi. Also his gravity can bend space and is passive so even if Obito can move around he'll still be slowed down significantly which will Luci one shot him.
Epsilon_R
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His gravity is literally the counter of Vanessa's Red thread of Fate, which manipulates both fate and probability. Izanagi wouldn't be different
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Epsilon_R
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Is this even accepted on the wiki?
And I told you, even if his flames overpowers Lucifero's resistance, Lucifero can simply use gravity to undo the flames or even erase it by creating a black hole
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Lucifero can't even Damage Obito through TSB Shields and Obito is actually >>>>>12.5 Teratons
Obito can also just mindhax if nothing else works
Obito can also just mindhax if nothing else works
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Lucifero could casually grab an attack from DU Asta who is above 26.5 Teratons. Genjutso likely wouldn't work because of Lucifero's devil physiology but I'm not sure. What is TSB?
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Truth seeking orbs
His devil Heart resists erasure but that is not true of the rest of his body. Also Genjutsu really has no reason not to work
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Not true in the slightest
hell he only resists it with his devil heart the rest of him does not resist it
Kazuma_kuwabara
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How much Genjutsu scales in the mind manipulation range, because Black Clover characters resist Mind Manipulation up to 500 people (the population of a Village) and that´s everyone with mana, you could even scale Lucifero beyond that but let´s assume 500 people now
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The Baseline in the Naruto scaling chain is like 600. there is like 6 layers at the minimum for it (as in 6 clearly defined layers)
So using your headcannon of what you think will happen as a feat
Wow This is a whole new level. I never thought I would actually see someone debating like this
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Kazuma_kuwabara
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Could you explain the layers? And why the baseline is 600?
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Dude literally has one internal organ which is his heart,so no brain or anything really and I'm pretty sure Genjutsu works by affecting the brain or something like that.
Kazuma_kuwabara
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That is headcannon to me, because how they are talking and moving without muscles, brain, etc etc
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