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ok blaze vs fate character match next frfrerm a blaze game would be better(lying)
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(Completed) 0-0-7|Death Battle was right, Archie Sonic's cosmology is similar in scope to DC comics|Silver The Hedgehog vs Lucifer Morningstar
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(Wanted to make blaze vs tifa but a voice told me it was a stomp)
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My Heart is
I have an absolute love for puns barely funny, glad to see you liked this one lmao
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grace done
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Sonic might stomp cause he resist ee
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Lucifer is completely outside of the affect of the Endless, all of which are concepts
Silver's hax shouldn't do shit lmao
Silver's hax shouldn't do shit lmao
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Silver has layered concept manip
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Lucifer is a conceptual extension of god's will. So unless you think Silver can concept manip the entirety of DC, it's not enough. How likely Silver even is to use concept manip anyway? We never saw Super Silver in action. We just know he fought Solaris somewhere off panel, and as far as we know, he did not conceptually hax his ass to death.
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Plus, Lucifer was literally unaffected by being erased from the Book of Destiny. No, it's not just being erased from history, Destiny of the Endless embodies the concept of Destiny, and everything that ever happened in DC is inside his book. Lucifer ignored being erased from it. And a crap ton of people in DC have resistance to concept manip and reside within the book. I don't wanna go and count layers right now but I sincerely doubt that Silver has more than that. Assuming it's even in character for Silver to use an attack he has never shown usage of on some random David Bowie lookalike, while Lucifer in turn uses EE nearly all the time (in the rare instances where he does fight)
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Super Silver has 7D higher dimensional Manipulation.
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He has it. We have no idea
A) How proficient he is at using it
B) How willing is he to instantly erase the concept of some rando
As far as we know, his fight with Solaris happened the way it did in the game, where they just beat the shit out of him
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and Silver's Concept manip is more fundamental/abstract than those, plus i see nothing on the profile that says what you are saying
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.......i think he does, so it is enough
all Chaos Energy is conceptual in nature
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Chaos Control does not transcend the Endless lmao
Those embody the concept of death, dream, etc. even for lower abstract beings
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Again
Super Silver was never shown to just conceptually hax a rando to death
Sonic himself doesn't do it in combat either
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so 2 layers of abstraction, while the Chaos Force is 3....also, the description of his High Godly only ever mentions history, so it wouldn't cover Conceptual destruction as it is
chaos energy does it by default, read the profile
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They can both win hence the incon
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So everything living being around Silver gets passively conceptually erased?
Good to know
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What did you say then?
If chaos energy doesn't passively conceptually hax every being it sees, how is Silver even going to use it?
And again, Lucifer wasn't just erased from history. He was erased from the book of destiny, which is very much conceptual in nature
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have you read the profile like i said for you to do?
no mention of it in the profile, only ever said to be History erasure, which even if it is conceptual, Silver's is far more fundamental for him to regenerate still
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Btw Sba means silver sees lucifer as a enemy, so he'd be fine using cm on him
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Plus literally ALL of Chaos Energy is Type 1 CM.
Even basic attacks of Chaos Energy have it.
Also, even Base Silver has immeasurable LS, and his Super Form should be light years above that, so he can easily reflect any of Lucifer's attacks and/or pin him down.
Even basic attacks of Chaos Energy have it.
Also, even Base Silver has immeasurable LS, and his Super Form should be light years above that, so he can easily reflect any of Lucifer's attacks and/or pin him down.
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Actually, Low Godly covers EE unless it's stated that the soul is also erased.
Actually, I know it's too late since Grace ended but I switch to Super Silver.
Concept hax, can regen from EE (which Lucifer may not use in-character), and telekinesis that can easily pin Lucifer down and reflect all his attacks.
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He cant come back from hg ee
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He can erase the endless who have hgr, and lucifer for what i see is quick to use ee when he dosent like someone when they dont have a use
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show me one example of Super forms in archie comics casually erasing someone as the first thing they do
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Lucifer erased himself from the book of destiny on a high godly level
Only he just came back
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Super forms fight those who resist those effects, and chaos energy by default does cm
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if it did CM by default, it would automatically erase literally anyone super forms fight. And it doesn't. Mega Man actually had to focus to effectively use chaos magic.
Silver also has no resistence to EE on his profile
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Anyway, this shouldn't be applied because it's a stomp. According to the profiles (and Lucifer's is very barebones as it includes ltierally no resistances) Lucifer has types 1 and 2 of abstract existence. Chaos Magic only has type 1 of conceptual manipulation, so there's straight up nothing Silver can do
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Mammoth Mogul, who the Super Forms scale to in Chaos Energy Potency, mortally wounded the Ancient Walkers, who have AE Type 1.
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guys this was already concluded, there is no reason to continue this discussion
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type 1>>>>type 2, besides Silver can just 1 tap him with Chaos Energy hax to win, but lucy can EE with thought, so Incon
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They have Type 1. Lucifer has 1 and 2
It shouldn't be applied at all, it should be a stomp since Lucifer's abstract existene is beyond Silver's conceptual manipulation
He has types 1 and 2 and Silver only has 1
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Super forms have cm resistence aswell, and idk how mega man focusing means it dosent just happen
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