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A planet sized space time, but still a space time nonethelessAnd again, ROSAT is really just a pocket dimension with a temporal abnormality
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A planet sized space time, but still a space time nonethelessAnd again, ROSAT is really just a pocket dimension with a temporal abnormality
Nope, unless there is no direct confirmation, Rosat is not universal in size, and becouse of that, It's only treated as pocket/isolated dimension.Great, that's perfect.
That means Goku and Beerus were affecting the 4-D axis. Unless, of course, the Room of Spirit and Time was only completely exempt from this destruction.
I already knew that, but nobody paid to that argument in the OP.
It's not a space-time. It's a pocket dimension with a temporal abnormalityA planet sized space time, but still a space time nonetheless
LoL ... Cap the sarcasm broDbs: we are going to destroy the U7, an accepted space time, plus ROSAT which also a space time showing that we are effecting the space time, we have statement that the universe itself, which is a space time, is going to be completely destroyed.
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It has space, it has a different Flow of time, and it's am enclosed realm.It's not a space-time. It's a pocket dimension with a temporal abnormality
It is what it isLoL ... Cap the sarcasm bro
You All Are Using 2-c Logic. We can't keep going in circles about this again and againI am pretty sure no one here said 2-C-
Imagine a region of space surrounded by black holes. It is a space, it has a different flow of time and it is an enclosed realm.It has space, it has a different Flow of time, and it's am enclosed realm.
space time
Seriously, up next you're gonna argue every fictional pocket dimension is a space timeIt has space, it has a different Flow of time, and it's am enclosed realm.
space time
It technically is thoSeriously, up next you're gonna argue every fictional pocket dimension is a space time
Nope, is just a pocket dimension with anormal time. Chaos from NNT can do the same, Kaguya from Naruto too, but we don't treat them as separate space-times, only as pocket dimensions in which time flows different.The ROSAT is accepted here in the wiki as a separate planet sized space time and it's contained within the universe, if Goku and Beerus' where gonna destroy it that means they have to be effecting space time. This feat is low 2-C.
Take that up with the Wiki; they currently consider the Room of Spirit and Time to be a separate timespace altogether and use that to justify the idea that each universe is a separate timespace instead of spatially isolated dimensions under the same time.It's not a space-time. It's a pocket dimension with a temporal abnormality
Well I don't agree with the first part but okay.The ROSAT is accepted here in the wiki as a separate planet sized space time and it's contained within the universe, if Goku and Beerus' where gonna destroy it that means they have to be effecting space time. This feat is low 2-C.
it is part of the Universe 7 Macrocosm, right? Then Beerus and Goku feat was going to affect itStill "if"
Wow DB cosmology is really screwed up thenTake that up with the Wiki; they currently consider the Room of Spirit and Time to be a separate timespace altogether and use that to justify the idea that each universe is a separate timespace instead of spatially isolated dimensions under the same time.
Not necessarilyit is part of the Universe 7 Macrocosm, right? Then Beerus and Goku feat was going to affect it
Not necessarily to which part?Not necessarily
Nope, is just a pocket dimension with anormal time. Chaos from NNT can do the same, Kaguya from Naruto too, but we don't treat them as separate space-times, only as pocket dimensions in which time flows different.
The wiki accepts ROSAT as a space time continuum.Universe 7 by itself has already been shown to contain parallel space-time continuums within its globe, such as the Room of Spirit and Time - Zeno's Page
The ROSAT is confirmed inside U7, if it's been stated 500 times verbatim that the universe was going to be completely annhilated, then we know that the ROSAT will also be destroyed.Well I don't agree with the first part but okay.
Still "if"
To qualify for Low 2-C you would need to destroy a fully universal 4-D structure, not planet sized, which will be considered only a pocket dimension with a anormality, and also, there is no proof that ROSAT is 4-D, anyway.The wiki accepts ROSAT as a space time continuum
Not necessarily. Is elder Kai even aware of ROSAT ?The wiki accepts ROSAT as a space time continuum.
The ROSAT is confirmed inside U7, if it's been stated 500 times verbatim that the universe was going to be completely annhilated, then we know that the ROSAT will also be destroyed.
Yes, he talks about HTC with Goku when Gotenks fight Super Buu in HTCNot necessarily. Is elder Kai even aware of ROSAT ?
ibi like always is omniscient about DBYes, he talks about HTC with Goku when Gotenks fight Super Buu in HTC
Goku and beerus were gonna destroy all of U7 but that wouldn't be low 2-C since you need to prove time is effected as well, that's why effecting the ROSAT which is a separate space time continuum that is inside U7 proves that time was also being effected for the same logic that beerus and champa's feats are 2-C.To qualify for Low 2-C you would need to destroy a fully universal 4-D structure, not planet sized, which will be considered only a pocket dimension with a anormality, and also, there is no proof that ROSAT is 4-D, anyway.
And the wiki doesn't accept Chaos's, Kaguya's pocket dimensions as isolated space-times, and mind you, in those pocket dimensions times flows different, so ROSAT shouldn't be the exception, sadly.
This is not the ******* argument—apologies for my language, but yeesh, read the OP.To qualify for Low 2-C you would need to destroy a fully universal 4-D structure, not planet sized, which will be considered only a pocket dimension with a anormality, and also, there is no proof that ROSAT is 4-D, anyway.
That's another subject entirely.And the wiki doesn't accept Chaos's, Kaguya's pocket dimensions as isolated space-times, and mind you, in those pocket dimensions times flows different, so ROSAT shouldn't be the exception, sadly.
Nooope, if it's only a pocket dimension, shouldn't be considered Low 2-C regardless, and there is no proof that they were going to destroy Time-space.This is not the ******* argument—apologies for my language, but yeesh, read the OP.
Beerus and Champa's feat is automatically considered Tier 2 because their damage was extending to a separate timespace (Universe 7), automatically suggesting that the 4-D axis was being affected as well. Because of this, they are considered to be affecting two timespaces, instead of just two spaces.
Goku and Beerus' feat should be considered Tier 2 because their damage was extending into a separate timespace as well (RoSaTand the Demon Realm), which should automatically suggest that they were affecting the 4-D axis, meaning that their universal destruction would be Low 2-C.
You should, becouse DB shouldn't be the exception on the wiki, and thus, there is something wrong on how the ROSAT is treated.ROSAT is an isolated space time with a completely different time flow than the normal universe, and the wiki accepts this. I don't give a shit how other verses are treated.
The ROSAT part is actually an assumption. All I know is that the energy was reaching Supreme Kai's planetbecause their damage was extending into a separate timespace as well (RoSaTand the Demon Realm)
This is not the place to hash that outYou should, becouse DB shouldn't be the exception on the wiki, and thus, there is something wrong on how the ROSAT is treated.
That is not a BoG feat howeverUntil base Vegeta literally blew up the whole dimension and appeared in ours by flexing his ki, proving they do affect space and time.
Doesn't mean destruction of such is low 2-C though. It has to be a universal space-timeA planet sized space time, but still a space time nonetheless
Noooo!!, you are misunderstanding everything, this for Low 2-C Bog, not 2-C.I think OP is trying to suggest certain characters should be 2-C and not low 2-C, and that technically BoG is where it would “start” being that tier, but if it starts a bit later with other evidence I don’t think they would mind
I don't know what this has to do here especially it's cause he could overpower his time stop ability.And Vados stating Jiren is “beyond time” for overpowering Hit freezing him in time backed by his own AP.
They are characters who affect space-time by sheer power yet they aren't low 2C, its cause they didn't affect a universal space-time continuum.I mean ROSAT is a planetary sized dimension however it is an alternate space-time, everybody knows this, and the only known method of escape was either the door bridging that room with our universe, and a ki-based ability to create a S/T portal to cross over. Destroying the door itself does not destroy the dimension itself.
Until base Vegeta literally blew up the whole dimension and appeared in ours by flexing his ki, proving they do affect space and time. At that point it becomes a question of range, which they already physically displayed they have.
And Vados stating Jiren is “beyond time” for overpowering Hit freezing him in time backed by his own AP.
Honestly, I think Beerus and Champa should be 2-C anyway based on their feat and the current cosmology and others should scale from them. It's ridiculous that a combined 2-C feat got divided to create a nonsense Low 2-C+ tier. I just don't think BoG qualifies for that or that Kaioshin realm counts as a separate space-timeI think OP is trying to suggest certain characters should be 2-C and not low 2-C, and that technically BoG is where it would “start” being that tier, but if it starts a bit later with other evidence I don’t think they would mind