You'd rather given a misleading context that the staff accepted Architect's and Shadow's R>F transcendence which isn't the case. Suppose that's where his comment "so maybe you can upgrade to Low 1-C first, and wait until later with anything further?" came from.
It's fine. I already asked Ant to clarify his stance, be patient, please.
It might look misleading at first glance, but note that this is after his previous inputs, where his only objection to the thread was about the regular characters getting to Low 1-C through RE, if he really disagreed with the entire thread, he would’ve been straightforward with it, like about the regular characters (Atleast that’s what I was thinking). But regardless, let’s hear it from him then.
I too would agree to it, if it isn’t for this one detail, that is, unlike other writer figures, Architect physically breaks the 4th wall (barrier btw fiction and reality) and enters the world of sf2 from his sound stage (real world), which hinders the possibility of him having any avatars, what’s your opinion on this?
Architect didn't get weaker when he entered his fictionary-work, it's just the implication of Shadow power is constantly getting stronger (As the dialogue implies that Shadow can reject Architect's power)
Well, while it is completely reasonable to conclude with that (as there are many similar examples to it, like the monitors), things here are a little different. Architect still maintains his writer-like authority and power over his characters, additionally, we can see him making puppeteer and shadow (shadow is mute) talk what he wants with a mere thought. Suggesting us that he didn’t get weaker as he entered the verse by breaking the 4th wall.
well. there are some differences, yes, Shadow beats Architect just like how animal man beats Grant Morrison, but the "Real world" (from where architect comes from) is actually open to shadow while the fight takes place, as you can see in this video, Animal man fights a in-verse avatar of his writer who has no connection to the "real world" as he exists in the final heaven, but in our case, Shadow fights his writer, who broke the 4th wall and walked from his sound stage (real world) directly into the world of shadow fight 2, and the "path back to the real world" was open during the entire fight, the "real world" was right next to shadow during the entire fight, which is why it is most likely to be reality equalization, as Reality equalization is also tied close to Reality-Fiction Transcendence (stated on the page). However, this will grant shadow Low 1-C tier for only this event, as architect leaves the world of sf2 and doesn't return back at all. which is why a separate key for this event will be created (if reality equalization is accepted).
Hey, sorry to bother you, but can you ping ant again?
Because this right here is the most important detail, and I’d like to hear ant’s input on it. (And yours too, if possible) Thanks!
That seems a little unlikely, given the fact that he can delete the game, Architect threatens the player with deleting the game altogether (from the player's phone, App Store, play store, wherever the game can be found) through game notifications, and he sends these notifications while the event was on-going (while architect was still inside the world of sf2), this strongly holds architect still at Low 1-C while he's still in game, so could it be that shadow was experiencing RE while fighting architect? (including the fact that "the real world" is open to shadow all along the fight)
I'd like to give some suggestion on currents problem right now, which there are two major ability that is probably related to solved Shadow's tier, as such;
Umm what? Ant said that Architect is Low 1-C following the logic of true from in the world he resides in, and i simply edit the profile base on this assumption...?
Solely with Ant agreeing isn't enough. I already said that a single staff approval isn't enough to apply this.
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Too bad wiki didn't have that kind of rules where Dimension is equalized in a Versus Thread, that would make the tiering system falling apart (They say)
Just fixed it, you can check it out now!
From what I can tell from what is available online, it seems as though the Architect claimed to be the creator of the world but was referred to as crazy. I think it's very spotty whether we should take that as legitimate, especially when Reality Equalization isn't like... an ability, on this wiki. That page is just an explanation of one of the contrivances we make that allow certain verses to be scaled as people want to (such as Sword Art Online being scaled as normal rather than just calling everything 10-C "because video game in-universe".
(This is correct, I believe, if we were to operate under the assumption that Reality Equalization is occurring wherein the game's creator is now just inside his creation)
The one that said Architect is a mad guy comes from Sensei which in POV of him that is a lower being.
So if the verse is 2-B, he'll scale to 2-B?
How is that?
Shadow is at uni+, possibly higher. Meanwhile the verse is at 2-B tier with countless timelines.
Yes. But i still don't get it why you conclude him to be 2-B above given the fact of plenty Qualitative Superiority evidence around him
