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The Valar's, or the Ainur in general?
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Lord of the Rings Downgrades
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Lets go through them one by one.
Arien: Is one of the most powerful Maiar.
That would warrent either at least 6-B, or unkown. We are also completely ignoring her sun-moving feat. It should be stated that while she moves the sun, it is likely smaller than the real one.
Personally I think unknown is the best option.
Osse: Should be comprable to Arien and nearly as strong as Sauron.
Given how high-end 6-B (To the point of being Country level+), I think at least should be used here, especially when the Balrogs can perform far more impressive feats. Also, when was it stated he was comprable to Sauron, or Arien.
Tilion is reasonable, because, he was just a no-name servant of Orome before guiding the moon. He would probably be unknown, for the same reson as Arien.
Balrogs: Balrogs were described as some of the most dreadful servants of Morgoth, which included high-tier Maiar like Sauron. Seven Balrogs were able to drive away a starving Ungoliant, who overpowered a weakened Morgoth. All Balrogs are Maiar, and remain very powerful
First off, the most glaring issue, is that they drove off a full-power Ungoliant, not a starving one. That definetly warrents an at least 6-B rating.
Additionally, Sauron is at least 6-B, not plain 6-B.
This is the problems I've found so far.
However, I'm certain I've missed some, and probably have some kind of problem in my proposed power-scaling.
Arien: Is one of the most powerful Maiar.
That would warrent either at least 6-B, or unkown. We are also completely ignoring her sun-moving feat. It should be stated that while she moves the sun, it is likely smaller than the real one.
Personally I think unknown is the best option.
Osse: Should be comprable to Arien and nearly as strong as Sauron.
Given how high-end 6-B (To the point of being Country level+), I think at least should be used here, especially when the Balrogs can perform far more impressive feats. Also, when was it stated he was comprable to Sauron, or Arien.
Tilion is reasonable, because, he was just a no-name servant of Orome before guiding the moon. He would probably be unknown, for the same reson as Arien.
Balrogs: Balrogs were described as some of the most dreadful servants of Morgoth, which included high-tier Maiar like Sauron. Seven Balrogs were able to drive away a starving Ungoliant, who overpowered a weakened Morgoth. All Balrogs are Maiar, and remain very powerful
First off, the most glaring issue, is that they drove off a full-power Ungoliant, not a starving one. That definetly warrents an at least 6-B rating.
Additionally, Sauron is at least 6-B, not plain 6-B.
This is the problems I've found so far.
However, I'm certain I've missed some, and probably have some kind of problem in my proposed power-scaling.
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Dreadful =/= powerful.
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Definetly.Antvasima said:
Like I said, I doubt I have avoided any mistakes in my proposed power-scaling.
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There is.
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Bump.
This is important.
This is important.
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Also, why do the Valar have infinite speed, but the Maiar don't.
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The pages are locked
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There is no reason to downgrade the Valar, just remove the infinite speed.
At the very least we have to do that before we start another thread.
At the very least we have to do that before we start another thread.
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Thanks.
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Yes, thank you for the help.
Anyway, it would still be good if somebody knowledgeable could check through the maiar pages, to see if the scaling and justifications for the statistics is accurate. That is why I thought that it might be a good idea to highlight this.
Anyway, it would still be good if somebody knowledgeable could check through the maiar pages, to see if the scaling and justifications for the statistics is accurate. That is why I thought that it might be a good idea to highlight this.
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Doesn't Azathoth know a bit?
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@Dark649
Shouldn't you remove the justfification as well?
Shouldn't you remove the justfification as well?
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Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Would you have a problem if I started a downgrade thread for Ungoliant?
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