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I think this will be one for the history books.
Human Monster vs Human Stickma
7-A versions. Win via SBA.
Discuss.
Human Monster vs Human Stickma
7-A versions. Win via SBA.
Discuss.
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Looking for a Fight: Garou vs Shura
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I was actually considering making this lol
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Is speed equal necessary here?
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Doesn't Garou scale to only mach 3500?
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How far into 7-A is Garou again?
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I am not knowledgeable on Hyun's Dojo, but just looking at the explanation for Kuda Spirit, shouldn't Shura have Statistics Amplification?
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Well for a start, Shura scales to Bog's very casual 312 ton feat, with Kuda Spirit making him even stronger
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Where would that put him numerically?
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He's an unknown amount higher than baseline. but If I were to guess then maybe around 2.5x to 3x above it.
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@Hizack His precog i literally based off of reading the opponent's moves and it isnt 100% accurate
Shura has no attacks that Garou could reflect
Shura has no techniques that Garou doesnt already know
Reactive Evolution isnt combat applicable and technically isnt reactive evolution at all
Shura has no attacks that Garou could reflect
Shura has no techniques that Garou doesnt already know
Reactive Evolution isnt combat applicable and technically isnt reactive evolution at all
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I'd like to point out that Shura with Kuda Spirit is strong enough to oneshot people who can contend with his base form, which is stronger than Garou
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Really? the calc I found wasn't even 1.5 times above baseline...am I missing something here?WeeklyBattles said:
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Baseline 7-A is 100 Megatons
Base Shura scales to Bog's extremely casual 300+ Megaton feat
Kuda Shura oneshot ShadowRose, who is stronger than characters who scale to that feat
Base Shura scales to Bog's extremely casual 300+ Megaton feat
Kuda Shura oneshot ShadowRose, who is stronger than characters who scale to that feat
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how's does Kuda spirit work? is it like a permanent stat boost or does it also increase his strength gradually as well.
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Its an instant stat boost that he can activate whenever he want
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Okay so how willing is he to activate it during a fight?WeeklyBattles said:
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Very, he ususally ends up activating it within a minute of fighting people who can actually contend with his base form skill-wise
Its also a speed amp that makes him fast enough to blitz people who can keep up with his base form
Its also a speed amp that makes him fast enough to blitz people who can keep up with his base form
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Garou (Peak) > Garou (Casually caught his Superalloy Bazooka and Blitzed him) > Darkshine (to the point where he would have killed Garou if he didn't block his tackle) > Garou = or > Overgrown Rover > Elder Centipede (it should be noted though that EC got stronger after his carpace was cracked by Bang and Bomb) > Bang, Bomb, and Post Gouketsu Genos.Andytrenom said:
He's well above 2 or 3x base line sheerly due to Darkshine, OGR, and Elder Centipede.
Personally, i don't really have an opinion on who'd win, but Garou does also have the ability to mimic fighting styles as well, even animalistic ones, not sure how Stickman's is though.
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Overgrown should be far more durable than Elder Centipede too.
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Oh yeah, that sure as hell can be a big problem for Garou if he doesn't Amp up quickly enough. Though considering this is peak human Garou the same one who by the end of it all managed to amp himself up quick enough to catch up to Superalloy Darkshine and stomp Darkshine he might be able to contend with Kuda form Shura if he amped up enough (though he has faced situation, where he would have been one shotted before so the chances of him surviving are pretty okay all things considered).
That palm strike is also going to be the nasty thing Garou has to face in this matchup. Though it is a palm strike and not some kind of thought based move considering that if the match got that far Garou should be able to analyze him completely and maybe be able to dodge the attack or reflect it (I mean he managed to deflect attacks from an amped Metal bat which at that point would have one-shotted Garou if one of his strikes landed on Garou).
That palm strike is also going to be the nasty thing Garou has to face in this matchup. Though it is a palm strike and not some kind of thought based move considering that if the match got that far Garou should be able to analyze him completely and maybe be able to dodge the attack or reflect it (I mean he managed to deflect attacks from an amped Metal bat which at that point would have one-shotted Garou if one of his strikes landed on Garou).
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Deflect it upwards maybe?
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At point blank range? When he doesnt even know whats coming? Without knowing that his opponent just got exponentially stronger in an instant?
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Garou takes time to adapt to his opponents styles, experiencing them first hand, and using analysis and previous experiences to adapt to his opponents. So i agree with Weekly here, unless Garou really has experienced something like this, which would probably be from Darkshine's tackle.
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Okay yeah, Garou is gonna be screwed by that palm strike.WeeklyBattles said:
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Garou would deflect the hand motion but probably not the blast that comes after, Shura's shockwave punches seem to be more dangerous for Garou due to them being ranged attacks but even then Garou has dealt with that before.WeeklyBattles said:
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So we know that Kuda Spirit Shura can blitz people normally comparable to him but, can he blitz someone normally 3 times faster than him?
