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Feel your pain Bro, many of the verses I like are more or less abandoned.
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Garou VS Garfiel (One Punch Man VS Re:Zero) - (8-1-0)
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Even if they aren't, there's some crazy shit going on. We have a very simple Naruto thread that's been going on for like a year, and that's NARUTO.
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Big 3 are always going to get a lot of attention, and they are still releasing new stuff to day.
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Bro really does want the Subaru experience
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Sorry, did I imply it's been going on for a year because people are talking about it? No one has been for like 3 months.
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Damn.
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Question does this slowing "perception of time" amp his speed or just Sasuke vs rock lee situation?
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Well Wilhelm when facing Theresia, was facing inescapable death, but escapes it by slowing down his perception of time
A less skilled Garf has a similar sort of feat
Btw I forgot Garf also has something similar to Fa Jin
But anyway to me atm, maybe Garf will get a relatively more equal lifting strength in the future, and maybe he can be argued to be more skilled, but the speed Garou can gain is a major advantage, Garf would have to win quickly before being outsped, and out lifted, not sure Garf has anything to put Garou down before then, besides his own Fa Jin maybe, his instincts are pretty bs, telling him the right thing to do in any given situation.
It was death. The longsword closed in on his torso. He could already picture a humiliating, inescapable death where his blood and viscera helplessly spilled out.
Those would be his final moments on the path of the sword that he had walked his entire life. It would all slip away before he had a chance to atone.
—There was no way he could accept an end like that.
“Ooooooooaaaaaah!!!”
Roaring, he rejected the bloody end that flashed through his mind.
Condemning that vision to the flames, Wilhelm felt his blood boil. Time seemed to slow as his focus intensified, making sound, color, and everything other than his opponent fade from the world.
The approaching blade followed the path he had envisioned, hurtling directly at his torso.
Just before it reached, he pushed off the ground with enough force to crater the stone pavement and spun himself in the air just over the deadly slash.-Volume 20, Prologue
Those would be his final moments on the path of the sword that he had walked his entire life. It would all slip away before he had a chance to atone.
—There was no way he could accept an end like that.
“Ooooooooaaaaaah!!!”
Roaring, he rejected the bloody end that flashed through his mind.
Condemning that vision to the flames, Wilhelm felt his blood boil. Time seemed to slow as his focus intensified, making sound, color, and everything other than his opponent fade from the world.
The approaching blade followed the path he had envisioned, hurtling directly at his torso.
Just before it reached, he pushed off the ground with enough force to crater the stone pavement and spun himself in the air just over the deadly slash.-Volume 20, Prologue
A less skilled Garf has a similar sort of feat
Having put his life on the line to defend against the previous six blows, Garfiel saw a vivid hallucination as the last attack blurred toward him.
He wouldn’t be able to evade it. Trying to intercept it would be crazy. The only choice was pure defense.
In that brief moment, he could still hear the voices. The shouts from his brother and sister and the rest of the onlookers.
—His decision was instantaneous, his action was immediate, and the result came in an instant.
The moment Kurgan unleashed his slash, Garfiel was entirely detached from the world.
Sound died off, color faded, and every last unnecessary thing disappeared from his field of view. He reached perfect focus, and all that remained in Garfiel’s consciousness was Kurgan.
The cleaver swung down toward Garfiel with an abnormal sluggishness.
His own movements to block it also seemed to be in slow motion.-Volume 20, Chapter 3
He wouldn’t be able to evade it. Trying to intercept it would be crazy. The only choice was pure defense.
In that brief moment, he could still hear the voices. The shouts from his brother and sister and the rest of the onlookers.
—His decision was instantaneous, his action was immediate, and the result came in an instant.
The moment Kurgan unleashed his slash, Garfiel was entirely detached from the world.
Sound died off, color faded, and every last unnecessary thing disappeared from his field of view. He reached perfect focus, and all that remained in Garfiel’s consciousness was Kurgan.
The cleaver swung down toward Garfiel with an abnormal sluggishness.
His own movements to block it also seemed to be in slow motion.-Volume 20, Chapter 3
Btw I forgot Garf also has something similar to Fa Jin
As gauntlets of silver rang out, the torso and cranium of the undead standing in the way were pulverized.
Inside the body of every undead there existed a corebug, and without piercing it, causing a fatal wound would be impossible, even if their head and heart were to be blown away. ――In that case, the best choice was to punch in a way so that the impact would spread throughout the whole body.
???: [How ‘bout this!]
Until now, he had been giving priority to swinging his fists with all of his strength and having them hit their targets, and he had not given much thought to the result that would be brought forth after they had landed. But, he revised that way of thinking.
The shockwave borne from the impact of his fist, he imagined it propagating throughout the body of his opponent. By doing so, a change could be yielded in the way his fist was unleashed, and in the result it brought about.
???: [――Hk.]
With a shivering response from its back, the body of the struck undead was smashed to dust, lagging a moment behind the area that had been directly punched. It was proof that the impact had been transmitted throughout the entire body, and that the corebug had been killed.-Arc 8, Chapter 69
Inside the body of every undead there existed a corebug, and without piercing it, causing a fatal wound would be impossible, even if their head and heart were to be blown away. ――In that case, the best choice was to punch in a way so that the impact would spread throughout the whole body.
???: [How ‘bout this!]
Until now, he had been giving priority to swinging his fists with all of his strength and having them hit their targets, and he had not given much thought to the result that would be brought forth after they had landed. But, he revised that way of thinking.
The shockwave borne from the impact of his fist, he imagined it propagating throughout the body of his opponent. By doing so, a change could be yielded in the way his fist was unleashed, and in the result it brought about.
???: [――Hk.]
With a shivering response from its back, the body of the struck undead was smashed to dust, lagging a moment behind the area that had been directly punched. It was proof that the impact had been transmitted throughout the entire body, and that the corebug had been killed.-Arc 8, Chapter 69
But anyway to me atm, maybe Garf will get a relatively more equal lifting strength in the future, and maybe he can be argued to be more skilled, but the speed Garou can gain is a major advantage, Garf would have to win quickly before being outsped, and out lifted, not sure Garf has anything to put Garou down before then, besides his own Fa Jin maybe, his instincts are pretty bs, telling him the right thing to do in any given situation.
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Looking through the profiles... it's pretty clear who wins this. Garou is far too adept and he will just f@^* Garfiel up badly.
Garou FRA ; Low diff.
Garou FRA ; Low diff.
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Leaning towards Garou FRA.
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Garou fra
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Grace started with this. I think it ended.
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So I suppose this can be added. Guess I'll just give my own thoughts before then.
It's difficult to debate the skill between these two because of some fundamental differences in their scaling. But here are some categories and who I think takes them:
Prediction: Garou. With scaling to Bang, he should be comparable to Atomic Samurai, who surpasses the predictive abilities of his students. As mentioned before this means being able to cut down thousands of attacks with your eyes closed while just sensing killing intent. Garou also replicated feats like Emilia's arrow prediction very very early on in his journey.
Perception/Senses: Garfiel. Garfiel has much better senses and observation, scaling from Elsa, who can fight while all of her senses are completely messed up by Shamac. He can also just actually slow down his perception of time, which makes it much easier to predict and dodge the opponent. Not to mention his layered ES which can sense things that are more invisible than invisible.
Instincts: Garou. I don't doubt Garfiel's instincts at all, but there is clearly a gap between dodging some things by instinct, and just outright fighting entire battles against martial artists (who also have instinctive reactions) while unconscious.
Adaptability: Garou. Practically Garou's entire thing is being able to adapt to his opponents. Since this isn't Arc 9 Garfiel, I don't think this comparison is really close. Garou can copy other people's techniques instantly, even in his sleep. He constantly absorbs techniques into his own composited style of martial arts. He constantly analyzes opponents to find optimal methods of defeating them, and this is heavily aided as well by his ability to evolve. He also has way more utility from the start, with things like WSRSF and WICF.
Overall, I don't think Garfiel is behind by that much in any particular area where Garou beats him out, but I do think Garou holds the edge here in skill.
I don't think either of them grows faster than the other when it comes to AP. Both seemingly were able to go from 7-A to 6-A in the span of like one fight.
But the issue for Garfiel is that Garou's speed grows at an exponential rate as well, which is significantly more damning.
And then there's the issue of lifting strength. Unfortunately, with Re Zero in the position that it is, grappling is practically all of their greatest weaknesses. And Garou has resorted to grappling and attempting to physically overpower opponents many times before.
So, overall, I'd have to give it to Garou. Won't be counting my own vote though, I just like this fight. I wish it was a little more fair.
It's difficult to debate the skill between these two because of some fundamental differences in their scaling. But here are some categories and who I think takes them:
Prediction: Garou. With scaling to Bang, he should be comparable to Atomic Samurai, who surpasses the predictive abilities of his students. As mentioned before this means being able to cut down thousands of attacks with your eyes closed while just sensing killing intent. Garou also replicated feats like Emilia's arrow prediction very very early on in his journey.
Perception/Senses: Garfiel. Garfiel has much better senses and observation, scaling from Elsa, who can fight while all of her senses are completely messed up by Shamac. He can also just actually slow down his perception of time, which makes it much easier to predict and dodge the opponent. Not to mention his layered ES which can sense things that are more invisible than invisible.
Instincts: Garou. I don't doubt Garfiel's instincts at all, but there is clearly a gap between dodging some things by instinct, and just outright fighting entire battles against martial artists (who also have instinctive reactions) while unconscious.
Adaptability: Garou. Practically Garou's entire thing is being able to adapt to his opponents. Since this isn't Arc 9 Garfiel, I don't think this comparison is really close. Garou can copy other people's techniques instantly, even in his sleep. He constantly absorbs techniques into his own composited style of martial arts. He constantly analyzes opponents to find optimal methods of defeating them, and this is heavily aided as well by his ability to evolve. He also has way more utility from the start, with things like WSRSF and WICF.
Overall, I don't think Garfiel is behind by that much in any particular area where Garou beats him out, but I do think Garou holds the edge here in skill.
I don't think either of them grows faster than the other when it comes to AP. Both seemingly were able to go from 7-A to 6-A in the span of like one fight.
But the issue for Garfiel is that Garou's speed grows at an exponential rate as well, which is significantly more damning.
And then there's the issue of lifting strength. Unfortunately, with Re Zero in the position that it is, grappling is practically all of their greatest weaknesses. And Garou has resorted to grappling and attempting to physically overpower opponents many times before.
So, overall, I'd have to give it to Garou. Won't be counting my own vote though, I just like this fight. I wish it was a little more fair.
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bump?
