LOL Dark Star / Cosmic Court Downgrade

[RegisNex1232]

I think it's time to just go ahead with the changes Monarch. You've said all that you needed to, and the changes have generally been accepted. You're not going to get much more done other than make a new thread after filling this one up with debates with Weekly over already established points.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Regis I know more than anyone that you would loooooove to see me banned but please stop trying to support monarch strongarming this thread before its done

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also , they DO have reasons to not accomplish them immediately, hell Jhin even says he activly chooses to not do so even though he's entirely capable of doing everything instantly

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

That's Jhin.

It's not Karma, Malphite, Jarvan, Mordekaiser, Cho'Gath, Karma, Kha'Zix, Varus

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Jhin scales to everyone else. They all scale to each other.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Oh, they scale in motivations and personalities do they? They all have Jhin's obsession with art that makes him decide he'd rather wipe out stars and planets bit by bit instead of taking out the galaxy all at once?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Going by your argument that all the Dark Stars do is destroy things bit by bit, yes

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Except they clearly don't have the same personalities.

Enough is enough, I'm making the changes.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

They have the same feats

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Also if you don't present better evidence for their higher dimensional existence / manipulation than:

"It's as if…" There was no easy way for Kayn to describe it. The quantum traces were bizarre. It was as though a piece of another reality, another spatial dimension altogether, had intersected briefly with this mountain on Ionan, negated it utterly, and left this void behind like an empty wound.

A wound that crackled with a residue of the otherness that had made it.


Then I'm removing that too, because this is not higher dimensional existence, this is just the scythe being from another universe and erasing what it slashes through.

 

[RegisNex1232]

Anything we can do to help make this faster, Monarch?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Peaceful advice here @WB, don't do anything that you will regret later. Take your time, get all the scans you need and make the thread again but with enough proof so this doesn't happen again.

 

[Gun_Slave_Unit]

Regis I know more than anyone that you would loooooove to see me banned but please stop trying to support monarch strongarming this thread before its done

it practically is? if you're so adamant on rejecting the changes simply wait for the changes to be implemented then make another crt revising those changes at a later date and see how that goes. sounds easy and simple enough

you're not exactly helping anyone with this kind of behaviour

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Changes have been made

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Higher-dimensional stuff should definitely be removed too.

 

[RegisNex1232]

Some pages also have some minor editing mistakes.

A small question: should the profiles still be locked or not?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Where are the mistakes?

I suppose they can be unlocked now, yes.

 

[Abstractions]

Where are the mistakes?

Well, for example, Kay's Tier has italics.

 

[Alonik]

Well i would back here, since i got finally diamond on TFT, but... the discuss become wild...

 

[Alonik]

Also, i agree with the mosto of the dark stars getting a downgrade for low tiers, however, just by Thresh downgrade while the most important scan about him is unavainable just cuz a site error, is unworthy.

Everyone here as always see that proof of thresh being capable of erasing all of existence, so i'm against Thresh in a tier lower than 2-A.

Plus, @Monarch Laciel, even you had a strong arguments for the most darkstar in lower tiers, you have no strong arguments for Thresh being downgrade for Galaxy tier, since is literally said that he will put the whole existence inside his lantern--the dark star.

This is blatanty at least 2-A.




About Thresh and the Void
This feat is for thresh, without doubts, here he said "we" when he consumed the void, and Monarch was arguing that was the whole team of the dark star, because thresh said "we". However in the interactions too, when thresh is aimed for the Baron, a creature of the void, he speak;

• i've destroyed realities. What threat is this beast

The point here, is that thresh had destroyed the void, and he is claiming what is the threat of a void creature, when he destroyed the reality of that creature. He even boast the Baron, about the destruction of the void;

• A Baron, eh? Baron of a dead world

Also, Monarch was claiming that all the team of the dark star had consumed the void, but thresh was just quoting him in third person in that interaction, since he have this claim ing of assuming in first person that was him who destroy the reality of the void.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

"Everyone here as always see that proof of thresh being capable of erasing all of existence, so i'm against Thresh in a tier lower than 2-A."

There is literally zero proof of this. None of what you've shown is proof that Thresh is 2-A, and the use of "we" to say it was a team of Dark Stars isn't even my argument anymore.

Thresh's methods are over time, done by feeding the Dark Star until it causes the singularity. They are not something he just does by himself at one time. If he could destroy all of existence immediately, he would, but he hasn't, so he can't. Enough

This is all already covered, the thread is concluded and if all you have is debunked sources, I'm closing the thread