Link vs Cloud...Apparently fair....

[Schnee_One]

As the title suggests....This fight is actually fair even with that AP difference.

So you know what? Screw it, might as well see where this goes, Speed is Equalized, Advent Children Cloud, and bloodlusted.

Link (Composite): 7 (Plot, Maximoff, Line, Loyal, Zeed, Sins)

Cloud Strife (Final Fantasy): 7 (Salvation, Knight, paladin, Pachi, Mansion, Half, Shozo)

Inconclusive: 4 (Dark, Repp, Cal, Zelda)

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

This ain't gonna go well....

 

[Schnee_One]

It's been an honor serving with you.

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

Gimme a sec, I'mma do some calcing.

So, Link's Time Stop allows him to accumulate damage, according to his profile.

A quick google search tells me that Link is 5'4 in TP, or 1.6256 meters.

Going by the chart on here, Link should have a wingspan of around 164.5 cm, or 82.25 cm for the length from the tip of his fingers to his spine.

Let's assume Link swings at a 180 degree angle with every attack. Let's also picture a circle, with the combined length of the sword and Link's arm as the radius.

On average a Sword can be around 97.5 cm. This makes the radius 179.75 cm, and the circumference 11.294 meters, or 5.647 meters when only counting the 180 degree angle.

According to Xcano's blog, Link should be 0.24 c or 71,950,189.9 m/s.

Using Time = distance / speed, it would take Link 7.84848519e-8 seconds to cross that distance with the tip of his sword.

Assuming Link attacked nonstop for an entire second...

1 / 7.84848519e-8 = 12741312.1869 attacks per second.

I made a calc blog for Demise's pocket realm, which got 4.3435281e+42 Joules.

4.3435281e+42 * 12,741,312.1869 = 5.5342248e+49 Joules. That is approaching the mid end of Solar System level.

Assuming he was attacking for the full 6 seconds...

6 / 7.84848519e-8 = 76447873.1214

76447873.1214 * 4.3435281e+42 = 3.3205349e+50 Joules, which is still Solar System level. BARELY higher than Cloud's value of 3.108 * 10^50 Joules.

 

[Huesito88]

Accumulate damage? if cloud is 76447873 times more durable then links attacks. Then link shouldn't be able to hurt him with Physical attacks.

 

[Schnee_One]

Can Link hax him in a time stop?

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

When Link stops time via the Stasis Rune, none of the energy he generates occurs until time resumes again. So any damage Link does will stack up, as the total amount of energy he generates in stopped time will be applied all at once.

 

[Huesito88]

link to that?

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

Can Link hax him in a time stop?

He almost certainly can, as the profile doesn't mention him not being able to.

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

link to that?

It's in the profile, under the equipment tab at the very bottom. Sheikah Slate.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Didn't we not allow that. Isn't that the reason why DIO isn't like Country level or something anymore?

 

[Huesito88]

Ok then

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

Didn't we not allow that. Isn't that the reason why DIO isn't like Country level or something anymore?

We stopped using that for JoJo because there was tons of evidence as to why time stop damage didn't accumulate in the verse. Meanwhile that's explicitly stated to be how Link's ability works in this case.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

AN is right.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I find that iffy honestly, there should be a thread to upgrde Link with that.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

It would be calc stacking if used in anything but an actual battle.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I don't understand how this works seeing as Cloud's Durability is leagues above Link's AP. One attack should break Link's sword instead.

 

[Huesito88]

And shield

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I...do agree with that.

 

[Reppuzan]

Where do all of Link's Resistances come from again? I'm asking this honestly.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I plan to make a blog about it soon, to justify them. Most of them come from rings though.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

How good are they?

 

[PaChi2]

Cloud kinda has resistance to time stop, you know.

 

[Schnee_One]

Then why isn't that on his page?

 

[Zeldasmash]

Well...according to both profiles, Link should hax stomp as Cloud doesn't have a resistance to a lot of Link's hax. If Link's stat-boosting can get him up to Solar System level, Cloud is finito.

 

[PaChi2]

Then why isn't that on his page?

Dunno, I thought it was. You can make the party resistant to Stop ingame.

 

[PaChi2]

Well...according to both profiles, Link should hax stomp as Cloud doesn't have a resistance to a lot of Link's hax. If Link's stat-boosting can get him up to Solar System level, Cloud is finito.

You know that Cloud only needs to cast one summon to outright obliterate Link, right?

Links best bet are the Ancient Arrows, tho.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Cloud can do far less to obliterate Link.

 

[PaChi2]

@Cal I meant summons because of their inherent pocket-dimension creation, which makes it unavoidable for Link. Link can dodge or resist most of Cloud's stuff.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I mean, Link can just...teleport out of there or become intangible. I thought you meant something else.

 

[PaChi2]

Since when can Link casually Teleport out of other's dimensions?

Pretty sure Hades can harm intangible beings.

 

[RadicalMrR]

I vote for Cloud since his sword is bigger.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@PaChi. Hero's Shade

 

[Schnee_One]

Are you guys voting?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Nah. Also, @PaChi. The Magic Mirror.

 

[Zeldasmash]

Well...according to both profiles, Link should hax stomp as Cloud doesn't have a resistance to a lot of Link's hax. If Link's stat-boosting can get him up to Solar System level, Cloud is finito.

You know that Cloud only needs to cast one summon to outright obliterate Link, right?

Links best bet are the Ancient Arrows, tho.

This might be a dumb question but is Cloud allowed to use summons in this fight?

 

[Schnee_One]

I don't see them helping but sure.

 

[PaChi2]

Nah. Also, @PaChi. The Magic Mirror.

hum. The magic mirror only allows to travel from the Light World to the Dark World. If the summons created something ressembling said "Dark world", I'd consider that, but I think claiming that it would allow Link to escape any random dimension is a bit of NLF.

Edit: Lol didnt know Composite Link also included Hero's Shade.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

That...doesn't fit the definition of an NLF.

 

[PaChi2]

Claiming that it can be used to exit any dimension when only connects 2? Also, a created one.