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We already saw the birdcage tank the meteor. Of course, the birdcage was mostly a plo device, but Fuji himself wasn't worried about the meteor killing him. I think it's silly to not scale the admirals to this.
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Let's talk about Fujitora's meteors
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The Birdcage is calced to be Island level+ via the meteor. Not Large Island level.Captain Torch said:
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Anyone Admiral tier and up should scale to the Meteors, yeha. Its just similar how we handle things with different series as well.
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Despite the fact that no other character has shown anything on that level?RavenSupreme said:
Fujitora's meteors range massively in scale from a couple dozen meters across to 2 kilometres. Saying everyone automatically scales to the highest-end attack we've seen from him seems just a huge leap.
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To give you a direct counter example: We scale Irenes Sub-Rela Meteor for everyones speed who is higher in the food chain, despite the next best thing we have seen was merely MHS and no one has shown anything even remotely close to what she has done. Its just how these things are handled.Damage3245 said:
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That's literally how scaling works. We've seen multiple things to confirm that Admirals and up can be scaled from Fujitora's meteor just like what we do with most verses. And I really don't mean to be rude or anything but Damage you seem really desperate to low ball everything as much as you can, which all respect due.
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No offense but that seems equally crazy - but I'm not a fan / very knowledgeable on Fairy Tail so I can't comment on that.RavenSupreme said:
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I thought you were aware of the approach on these matters. If you were not, I can understand the confusion.
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I understand how VS Battles works - I just think that this is a new low. Even on the powerscaling page it recommends scaling people based on feats where possible.RavenSupreme said:
If people are saying "I can't believe Fujitora is the only one with a High 6-C attack, it's ridiculous", it's that an Argument from Incredulity Fallacy?
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Yeah. Looks like a desperate attempt to lowballing one piece but with little knowledge on how scaling works.
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Well, Aokiji has an Island level+ feat, and it seemed to be casual. I don't find it farfetched that Whitebeard, Shanks, Big Mom, Kaido, Blackbeard, and Akainu would be Large Island level. Maybe Sengoku and Monkey D. Dragon as well.
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Let's not dive into Fallacies Damage, you've been using them since the start of this thread.
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Let's not start causing shit Rin, we don't need that eitherRin The Dragon Empress said:
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No need to be agressive guys. Despite disagreeing with Damage, I see where he's coming from. Not everyone who disagrees with an upgrade is automatically a "hater desperately trying to lowball OP"
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Feats boil down to a given Energy value exerted. It does not matter in what way the Energy value we found was created. The scaling begins with the question whether or not other characters can, going by the feat from character A which resulted in the exerted Energy value 1 be expected to exert a similar level of energy.
In terms of OP, where the power hierarchy even inverse is reasonably well explained the assessment of people on the same tier being able to exert a similar level of energy is what is appropriate. This is not to be seen in terms of upgrades, since the verse already has the accepted value given due to character As feat, but a question of scaling - which is agreed upon (as for every other series unless we involve hax).
In terms of OP, where the power hierarchy even inverse is reasonably well explained the assessment of people on the same tier being able to exert a similar level of energy is what is appropriate. This is not to be seen in terms of upgrades, since the verse already has the accepted value given due to character As feat, but a question of scaling - which is agreed upon (as for every other series unless we involve hax).
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I'm not causing "Shit." I'm pointing out flawed logic and fallacies. Anyway derailing, let's get back on topic.
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Since I clearly cannot prevent this scaling from being adopted, let's look at who should actually scale.
One line of reasoning: "There's no way Kaido should be hurt from Fujitora's strongest meteors."
So Kaido's durability, and anyone who can harm him, would scale.
Second line of reasoning: "There's no way Fujitora has a stronger attack than Akainu / the Yonkou".
So Akainu, Kaido, Whitebeard, Shanks, Big Mom, Blackbeard and people directly comparable to them would scale.
Obviously I think the first line is better than the second line because that at least has a bit more basis to it, even if I don't agree that the basis is 100% solid.
One line of reasoning: "There's no way Kaido should be hurt from Fujitora's strongest meteors."
So Kaido's durability, and anyone who can harm him, would scale.
Second line of reasoning: "There's no way Fujitora has a stronger attack than Akainu / the Yonkou".
So Akainu, Kaido, Whitebeard, Shanks, Big Mom, Blackbeard and people directly comparable to them would scale.
Obviously I think the first line is better than the second line because that at least has a bit more basis to it, even if I don't agree that the basis is 100% solid.
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I wouldn't word it like that. Something like "Should be comparable to Fujitora." should be more than enough.
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I wasn't mentioning the reasoning on the profiles, but the reasoning for who should scale.
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By the way, the following thread may be of interest: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2302470
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Perhaps it is better if the discussion is continued in the thread linked below, and I then close this thread?
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2302470
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2302470
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I'll post everything I remember from this and many previous threads later but yeah. That thread is better than this so you can close it.
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