Lavos VS Pegasus Seiya (Both low 2-C)

[Primaris_Brian]

So I found a random hax worm..and decide to put his hax to the test..

Rule: The speed is equalized and win by True Death.

-Lavos

-Pegasus Seiya

who win and why?


Worm


Seiya.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Bump.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Lavos. Seiya's resistances and Reactive Evoultion fall to immunity voiding. And Seiya's one trick won't get past the broken acausality that Lavos has, bringing himself back from the Darkness Beyond Time. Lavos is also capable of killing acausals with ease, and can probably just BFR him to the End of Time. Even 8th Sense falls to the fact that Lavos can kill and eat souls, as he did it to Crono.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Wouldn't reactive evolution of his scale also adapt to said voiding? And then it gets voided again but then adapts again and then again and then again and then again, it just keeps going.

Anyway I didn't know he was capable of killing acausals with ease. And absolute soul control should help.

Gonna go with Inconclusive or Seiya tbh.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Seiya is also Acausal and as a Low 2-C can fight on equal terms with Reality Warping deities far above anything that Lavos can do.

Deities who control the universe as a whole in all its components, and the chaos that originates everything.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Forgive me as I know very little about SS, but it seems Seiya's Low 2-C rating comes from barely hurting 2-Cs, so it doesn't seem he fights on equal terms.

Also, yes and no. Lavos is nigh featless as a Low 2-C (other than the feat that gives him low 2-C). His 5-A and 2-A forms are the ones with all of the feats, and obviously, the 2-A form has reality warping greater than anything in SS other than the Chronos, but the 5-A form is obviously less powerful. It makes sense that the Low 2-C has his abilities on that level. Or was that not the point you were making?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

No, Seiya reached the 9th Sense. He was more or less equal to the gods, and Athena. Apollo is just that stronger.

My point is that I don't see Lavos having the ability to control all the components of the universe.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Ah. That is true. Lavos can't control everything. But define what you mean by all the components? Like, all the concepts and such too?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Going to show quotes that explain it:


Com o verdadeiro poder dos grandes deuses... Com o poder que controla o mundo...

Translation:

With the true power of the great gods... With the power which controls the world...


O poder supremo que faz o universo expandir infinitamente. Essa é a fonte de nosso poder, os deuses. O Cosmo que só se permite ter aos deuses da destrui├º├úo: Eskatos Dunamis.

Translation:

The supreme power which makes the universe expand infinitely. This is the source of the power of us gods. The Cosmos allowed only to the gods of destruction: Eskatos Dunamis.


O poder de um deus é um mundo mesmo. Cada um dos Tit├ús tem um universo e um planeta que domina.

Translation:

The power of a god is the world itself. Each of the Titans has a universe and a planet he dominates.


E a fonte desse poder é a mesma que cria o mundo. Os deuses existem junto ao mundo.

Translation:

And the source of this power is the same that creates the world. The gods exist as one with the world.


Terra, água, vento, fogo, luz e escuridão. Demos esses seis elementos a essa espada... E por conter o poder dos elementos, cria o caos.

Translation:

Earth, water, wind, fire, light and darkness. We gave these six elements to this sword.... And because it contains the power of the elements, it creates chaos.


E esse poder do Caos é que d├í origem ao universo e é a fonte do poder dos deuses. Eskatos Dunamis!

Translation:

And this power of Chaos is what brings origin to the universe and is the source of the gods' power. Eskatos Dunamis!

In short, each unsealed Titan, even the absolute weakest of them, holds the power of a Big Bang, or of an infinitely expanding space-time continuum. This is evidence that all major God is at least Low 2-C.

The Hypermyth says:

The Big Will (Or Great Will, or even Divine Will), liberated by the Big Bang, collided with with fragments of the Universe, forming the stars that shine in the skies and the vacuum of the space in which we live.

With many humans being born on Earth, came those who were capable of awakening the Big Will. If the manifestation of Cosmos happens through the Seventh Sense, then it can be said that the Big Will is the Super Sense that is far higher than all others.

The 9th Sense is the power of the Big Bang which created the universe.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I follow now. But wouldn't that make them equal in AP? And while Seiya has garnered immunities through fighting all these grandiose deities, can't Lavos still void it? Also, how can he put the parasite down?

 

[FateAlbane]

Not making a vote here, but I'd like to point out that Lavos as DD actually has one feat.

The feat of lolstomping the endgame party (which are rated as Low 2-C around here as well) by oneshotting them with a single energy beam - yes, one attack to oneshot the three of them all at once - as soon as he went fully serious. He kinda made the party look as much of a joke as the Creation Trio against Arceus.

...And then proceeding to stomp another Low 2-C that was Magus. Again. Like, he had already wrecked Magus before the party even got there, wrecked the party right after and then wrecked Magus again without any effort.

Not underestimating Seiya, or taking sides, just pointing this as Cal said he didn't remember any feats from the DD.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Not making a vote here, but I'd like to point out that Lavos as DD actually has one feat.
The feat of lolstomping the endgame party (which are rated as Low 2-C around here as well) by oneshotting them with a single energy beam - yes, one attack to oneshot the three of them all at once - as soon as he went fully serious. He kinda made the party look as much of a joke as the Creation Trio against Arceus.

...And then proceeding to stomp another Low 2-C that was Magus. Again. Like, he had already wrecked Magus before the party even got there, wrecked the party right after and then wrecked Magus again without any effort.

Not underestimating Seiya, or taking sides, just pointing this as Cal said he didn't remember any feats from the DD.

Thx for your idea.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Oh god no. You gave Jim an idea....

 

[Primaris_Brian]

It's his fate to give me an idea.

 

[FateAlbane]

If it's Arceus, I was thinking about doing a similar thread just to watch Cal suffer, because he likes both characters. But didn't have the time, so go ahead.

...No matter who wins, he loses. lol

 

[Primaris_Brian]

sure

 

[Primaris_Brian]

As usually my double post issue resulting me to post 3 threads at once.

lol

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Bump.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

So, um. Bump?

 

[Primaris_Brian]

In bump I trust.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Bump.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bump