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Then why isn't this changed in DBS's page? I find this quesitonable.Hellbeast1 said:@Spawn actually the trembling feat is 4-A
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Then why isn't this changed in DBS's page? I find this quesitonable.Hellbeast1 said:@Spawn actually the trembling feat is 4-A
No, the universe has no weight.Kepekley23 said:Oh wait...there weren't any replies to my debunk. As I expected.
> The universe has no weight, dude.
Yes, it does. It has a density and a volume so it, by extension, has mass. And what is stated in the game overrides your word. Trying to request that it be shown on-screen won't get you anywhere.
> Once again, statements and what the developers and authors say still doesn't hold enough water
Doesn't work like that on VS Battles Wiki. If you can't counter the evidence then you drop it. But if you want a visual Universal feat on GoW, go here
Thank you!Zechel said:inb4 "The narrator said they made the world not universe"
Yep. Uranus, the literal personification of the universe (as stated in the artbook), gets punched by fellow primordial Ceto. The resulting clash is the creation of the whole universe, as stated by Uranus's son Gyges in the comics three separate times.Andytrenom said:One of the clashes seemed to create a sky full of stars. Maybe kep was referring to that.
Kepekley23 said:> No, the universe has no weight.
Go ahead and turn this into a semantics argument. Yes, the universe has no weight. It does have mass, and you can quantify the energy required to literally support the cosmos as the description puts it.
> And this is about Kratos dude, I need stuff related to Kratos.
Okay.
- Overpowers Cronos
- Kills Zeus
- Kills Hades
- Kills Thanatos
- Kills Poseidon
- Kills and overpowers Hercules
There is your Kratos stuff.
- Kills Helios
> As for the video, the narrator stated that the Primordials forged the Earth, not the universe.
The narrator of the series is Gaia - who is literally the very embodiment of Planet Earth itself, so it makes sense that she explicitly mentions what is relevant to her, ie. the Earth, as opposed to the wider universe. But hey, you can literally see the universe being made in the intro itself, and the primary canon comics explicitly state Uranus created the universe.
> If anything, this is the only feat in God of War that is above planetary level, but not anything universal.
The first chronological feat of at least 13-14 feats and statements, sure.
And how did Cronos managed to beat Uranus? Was it ever explained or shown?And Kepekley23 said:Yep. Uranus, the literal personification of the universe (as stated in the artbook), gets punched by fellow primordial Ceto. The resulting clash is the creation of the whole universe, as stated by Uranus's son Gyges in the comics three separate times.Andytrenom said:One of the clashes seemed to create a sky full of stars. Maybe kep was referring to that.
And Uranus got beaten and killed by none other than Cronos.
What massive outlier?WeeklyBattles said:Just out of curiosity even if the statements are legitimate how is this not a MASSIVE outlier? It's several infinities greater than any other feat we in any of the games or novels.
Don't all of these feats happen all at once, going off of Kep's comment here?WindGodAcheron said:We have 13 feats/statements on that level in the franchise How the hell can that many feats be outliers in such a straightforward and short franchise?
Kepekley23 said:The first chronological feat of at least 13-14 feats and statements, sure.
Alright, thank you. I was concerned off of a way Kep phrased the feats. Although I would group together the "batches" of feats that happen really close to each other when counting if we're speaking of consistency.WindGodAcheron said:Not in the slightest. Those feats are all prevalent and stretched out through the series, the latest batch of feats are from the newest game. They didn't all happen at once.
"First chronological feat of 13 feats" was phrased like the 13 feats happened in a single game/story in a short timeframe, apologies for the misunderstanding.Kepekley23 said:What? I said the exact opposite.
I said that Uranus's feat was the first Universal feat in the franchise chronologically. They don't happen all at once. The latest feat is from the new game.
This has confused me more, actually.WindGodAcheron said:I mean, happening really close together doesn't invalidate the fact they're separate feats.
Ymir came first. Then he created the 9 realms. Then Surtr came some close but unspecified time after, and filled those realms with stars and heat. Those are 2 separate feats, the fact they're close together in the chronology doesn't change the fact those are two separate characters performing the feats.
But Surtur's feat isn't even Tier 3-A going by how we treat celestial body creation calculations, assuming Ymir made the realms before he did that.WindGodAcheron said:@Dargoo
Not all the feats are 2-C. Not even close. Nobody tries to use Surtr's first feat to justify 2-C.
There are only 4 2-C feats. All the other feats are tier 3 or low tier 2. Which is why the ratings use an at least 3-A.
I'm just correcting what you claimed that feat was rated at. I made no comment on the other feats' validity.WindGodAcheron said:I am fairly sure it'd be low tier 3, but so what? It is a feat that he did passively with his existence. Surtr himself has a feat where he destroys all the 9 realms in a fight with Thor and Odin, leading to the epicentre of Ragnarok.