For one, why would the clones have a different spiritual presence in the first place if his cloning as nothing to do with spirit?
I never said otherwise, I asked for evidence for the claim Rick could change his spiritual pressure.
I just said that the Shinigami being able to distinguish a Shinigami from his sword, despite them being the same person is proof enough he'd be able to distinguish Rick from his clones.
For two, if they do have a different spiritual presence, then what stops Rick from just cloning himself during the prep time so that Archer no longer has knowledge over what his particular spirit feels like?
Funny.
This strategy wouldn't work though because Kisuke already has knowledge with opponents who completely change their life force. I said because of that knowledge, this would never work, even if Rick is capable of that.
You need to prove the senses overcome the clones, which I am heavily not convinced by at all. Minute details don't matter dude.
You need to prove that the cloning overcomes the senses, not the other way around, especially when I've been presenting evidence for Kisuke's sensory capacity.
Ffs he doesn't even have a set "body." In one of the episodes he straight up alludes to how he can be anything. He can be a clone, a hologram, a robot, etc. Even if Kisuke is given knowledge of the real Rick's spiritual presence it wouldn't even remain the same after the prep time so he'd have to find it again.
You still haven't proven Rick is capable of changing his presence, and even if he was, Kisuke already knows how to deal with that.
Rick C-137 absolutely has a main body that starts in the central park here, him having robots and shit doesn't matter here.
All of them have portal guns and obviously Rick could throw him off by having multiple of them do the same or any other random thing.
This doesn't counter the passive point at all. Even then, Kisuke with preparation could just deduce what the real Rick would do in such a scenrio given thefact he completely planned out for Askin Nakk Le Varr's deathdealing and perfectly predicted what he would do despite just seeing him.
Rick once out-planned a robot that was specifically created to plan against him with like dozens upon dozens of layers throughout every plan. He is ridiculously good at planning.
Okie Dokie.
He can alter his own mind, he's worked on his own mind before. And he has created potions to affect mental states and emotions before. It isn't a stretch.
Could you show him being able to completely remove emotions from his brain to the point that hax that can affect robots wouldn't be able to affect?
Does it work on robots that have tier 4 durability? He can make one of those too.
Durability is irrelevant. Durability isn't going to save you from hax which negates durability by definition, and Reiatsu isn't dependent upon AP.
He can write fortunes as seen at the end of the episode.
Yeah due to very specific contexts he wouldn't have access to here like blank fortunes and the alien who produces them.
And with optional equipment he'd have many blank fortunes that he could just write on to make any possibility occur.
He wouldn't, he literally only had blank fortunes due to the company, it's not something he just has on his own even as optional equipment, at best he'd just have the random fortunes.
Can you prove reiatsu bypasses tier 4 walls then?
The Durability of the walls is irrelevant because they're not using AP to bypass them.
I don't know what you mean but if you are large enough to bite down on a solar system you are going to be Tier 4 through sheer size by default.
Yes, the ap of biting down a solar system would get you tier 4.
I'm skeptical of being a size alone giving you a tier.
I first want you to tell me what you think both of their win-cons are. And they have to be capable of being possible simultaneously.
The assumption of this question is weird. It can be the case that we discuss multiple ways a fighter can win even if they aren't possible simultaneously by just discussing different ways a character might act in different scenarios.
I guess Rick wins if he manages to destroy the planet or universe, I guess he might win in the very off chance Kisuke kills him or sum.
Kisuke wins through his Reiatsu incapacitating Rick or preparing a sealing spell.
