Kirby vs. Mega Man (Grace)

[Ikelaggan]

Intriguing.
Can he stop time before he's inhaled?

Yeah, flash stopper is pretty fast.

Also Kirby can use a warp star or Wheel to amp his speed.

Neither of these are really comparable to speed gear cause they don't have any multipliers to argue for since it's equal speed, even if I was generous and said they double kirby's speed speed gear quadruples Mega's speed.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Yeah, flash stopper is pretty fast.

Okay, but he does have to equip that first, and as someone mentioned before it doesn't seem to be his first move.

Neither of these are really comparable to speed gear cause they don't have any multipliers to argue for since it's equal speed, even if I was generous and said they double kirby's speed speed gear quadruples Mega's speed.

Fair points honestly.

 

[Chaos Jester25]

Yeah, flash stopper is pretty fast.

Flash Stopper does not stop time. It just releases a bright flash of light that disorients enemies.

Neither of these are really comparable to speed gear cause they don't have any multipliers to argue for since it's equal speed, even if I was generous and said they double kirby's speed speed gear quadruples Mega's speed.

Rock isn’t allowed to win via blitzing Kirby with Speed Gear. Under Speed Equalization rules, the naturally slower character(Rock) isn’t allowed to win via blitzing the naturally faster character(Kirby) with speed amps.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Voting Kirby FRA

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

i am still see no actually wincon for kirby,all he can do is inhale some attack of mega,yes mega lead with shooting some lemon,but after he realize that not gonna do anything to kirby,he gonna switch to some weapon that kirby can't inhale,like the tundra storm,acid rain,or he gonna use some spatial attack,which is time stop and then shoot a spatial arrow,or time stop(the real time stop,not the flash stop) to attack kirby,pretty sure kirby doesn't show feat to attack to some time stop guy,about kirby regen,yes that tough but absolute zero ice,black hole and also spatial cut (pretty sure kirby can't survive being spatial cut) also kirby inhale won't work on mega, I mean his inhale class is only 1
on top of that mega battle experience is better than kirby too,so yeah if notthing change I'm vote megaman

 

[Ikelaggan]

I'm voting mega FRA

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

My point is that he can reflect Tundra Storm, Mega's Attack Reflection wouldn't matter here because you can't reflect AR.

Tundra Storm is literally a gigantic tornado that affects the whole screen , unless is 360º AR, Kirby is not dodging nor reflecting that

This is part of his Attack Reflection

Tundra Storm would affect him but I am seeing this point was already adressed, I am seeing the whole thread while writting

Well like I said Kirby can deflect it, but Kirby starts with Inhale or Friend Heart iirc, so the former may be bad for him if he's swallowing an energy ball... Though I think he's done that before.

This is pre-canvas, so no Friend Heart, also because Kirby is ******* small, I don´t know how is he gonna inhale anything from Megaman, Kirby technically is a fly in this match

Wouldn't matter because Kirby has High-Mid Regen.

An energy attack over 10 times stronger would be like defeating Cell in Dragon Ball with a Kamehameha, but okey, he has regen, Megaman with gears outspeeds and destroys his whole body

I'm leaning toward Kirby. Aside from the AOE attacks, most of Rock's weapons get rendered completely useless due to Kirby being able to eat them and spit them back out. On top of that, aside from Tundra Storm(and maybe Grab Buster but Kirby could just eat it), Rock has no way to get around Kirby's regen.

Flash stopper, Acid Rain, Time slow, Tundra Storm, Fire far hotter than the core of the sun, Can he eat electricity? Metal Blades are like Gordos technically (dubious even for me) etc

Plus Kirby is not eating everything if Megaman starts spamming all his weapons that tracks the opponent and every single one travels different directions, also, is transmutation the same as petrification or are different? If different, concrete shot

Rock isn’t allowed to win via blitzing Kirby with Speed Gear. Under Speed Equalization rules

Fair

on top of that mega battle experience is better than kirby too,so yeah if notthing change I'm vote megaman

Kirby is no slouch either

Also, if Kirby summons a Helper, Megaman can summon his robot friends like Rush or Tango, Rush Adapter gives him flight and more power, he could be able to stack the Adapter with double gear but Kirby can also touch Megaman and copy all of his powers (the page says so, but no idea if this only applies to his ball form or not)

For now is inconclusive or Megaman extremely hard difficulty, and because is Kirby without op powers like ghost Kirby, if not Kirby murders easily

 

[Chaos Jester25]

Plus Kirby is not eating everything if Megaman starts spamming all his weapons that tracks the opponent and every single one travels different directions, also, is transmutation the same as petrification or are different? If different, concrete shot

Petrification is a subset of Transmutation. Having a resistance to Transmutation grants a resistance to petrification but the reverse is not true.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Tundra Storm is literally a gigantic tornado that affects the whole screen , unless is 360º AR, Kirby is not dodging nor reflecting that


Tundra Storm would affect him but I am seeing this point was already adressed, I am seeing the whole thread while writting

This is pre-canvas, so no Friend Heart, also because Kirby is ******* small, I don´t know how is he gonna inhale anything from Megaman, Kirby technically is a fly in this match

Flash stopper, Acid Rain, Time slow, Tundra Storm, Fire far hotter than the core of the sun, Can he eat electricity? Metal Blades are like Gordos technically (dubious even for me) etc

Plus Kirby is not eating everything if Megaman starts spamming all his weapons that tracks the opponent and every single one travels different directions, also, is transmutation the same as petrification or are different? If different, concrete shot

Fair

Kirby is no slouch either

Also, if Kirby summons a Helper, Megaman can summon his robot friends like Rush or Tango, Rush Adapter gives him flight and more power, he could be able to stack the Adapter with double gear but Kirby can also touch Megaman and copy all of his powers (the page says so, but no idea if this only applies to his ball form or not)

For now is inconclusive or Megaman extremely hard difficulty, and because is Kirby without op powers like ghost Kirby, if not Kirby murders easily

I'm not very knowledgeable on Megaman so I can't provide perfect arguments, but I will point out:
In Super Star he survived on a planet full of hot lava and can even withstand getting burnt by it ( this lava can also burn people who have Fire Manip and a resistance to it such as Burnin Leo ) and is invulnerable to it with an Invincible Candy.
About the lightning, he might not have a natural resistance/immunity to it but he has stuff like Spark, and he's immune to Kracko's lightning when using abilities like Stone.
Also, some of Kirby's helpers are nutty as hell, in fact here's a video showing how strong T.A.C. is.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

in fact here's a video showing how strong T.A.C. is.

I already saw that video, but that is gameplay of course

In Canon the helpers are as strong as Kirby when he create one, but without being hax machines

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Also I don't know if this is useful but here's an image of Kirby's Energy Manip passing through a wall to hit a Scarfy.

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

Also I don't know if this is useful but here's an image of Kirby's Energy Manip passing through a wall to hit a Scarfy.

I mean in gameplay term,mega also can shoot bullet through the wall

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I mean in gameplay term,mega also can shoot bullet through the wall

Fair lol.
Do you know who you'll vote for? I might vote Kirby FRA, personally.

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

Fair lol.
Do you know who you'll vote for? I might vote Kirby FRA, personally.

gonna go with mega high diff though,I was talk about the reason why I vote for blue bomber above :v

 

[DaMonkeMan]

gonna go with mega high diff though,I was talk about the reason why I vote for blue bomber above :v

Why are you voting Megaman? I just need a short recap as I forgot

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

Why are you voting Megaman? I just need a short recap as I forgot

well in short,mega use 10x ap to attack kirby,kirby can suck it or regen from it,mega knew that if he try to use normal weapon kirby can't be kill,then he will use some ultimate weapon,like the tundra storm that is absolute zero ice can bypass any shield,a black hole to suck against kirby,an abillity that can make mega freeze in place but can generate a spatial attack that spread all battlefield
and also time stop too,he have two type,one is normal time stop,two is when time stop he also become invulnerability
he also have dopple crash,which is create an doppelgangers attack with him and become invulnerability too

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

also pretty sure kirby can't suck mega up,dude is only class 1 in his pre-CC key,also kirby doesn't have anything that can actually kill mega either

 

[DaMonkeMan]

How the hell is he Class 1 in his pre-CC key? That should be fixed.
Also Kirby has Transmutation.

 

[Ikelaggan]

How the hell is he Class 1 in his pre-CC key? That should be fixed.
Also Kirby has Transmutation.

I think his lifting strength kinda got the spongebob treatment where his cannon height kinda nerfs a few feats.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I think his lifting strength kinda got the spongebob treatment where his cannon height kinda nerfs a few feats.

He still resisted what seems to be a Black Hole ( and if he uses Stone he's completely immune to the black hole )

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

He still resisted what seems to be a Black Hole ( and if he uses Stone he's completely immune to the black hole )

Why Kirby is 5-A but he defeated Marx who is 4-A after absorving Nova?

Is because of the Note of his profile that Kirby lacks a 4-A while defeating Drawcia? Because if is for that, then this Kirby has not fought Marx yet

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

He still resisted what seems to be a Black Hole ( and if he uses Stone he's completely immune to the black hole )

are you sure it is pre CC key ? because sound like it happen in his 4-A key more,also he doesn't have resist black hole in pre cc too so no
about the transmutation stuff,mega can easily counter it by the weapon i mention

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Why Kirby is 5-A but he defeated Marx who is 4-A after absorving Nova?

Is because of the Note of his profile that Kirby lacks a 4-A while defeating Drawcia? Because if is for that, then this Kirby has not fought Marx yet

Huh?
I'm just saying it's a better LS feat for Pre-CC Kirby ( Super Star is before Canvas Curse right? ) than the ones listed on his profile.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

are you sure it is pre CC key ? because sound like it happen in his 4-A key more,also he doesn't have resist black hole in pre cc too so no
about the transmutation stuff,mega can easily counter it by the weapon i mention

Canvas Curse was after Super Star ( the game the video is from ) so..
Also Mega will have to use a weapon like Tundra [forgot the 2nd word] to freeze Kirby and stop him from inhaling though it doesn't seem he starts out with that.

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

seem like kirby actually resist black hole,the profile only tell it gravity manip lol,but a bunch of others stuff can still kill him though
again kirby inhale class is 1 in pre CC so he can't suck mega,if you want a better class,make a crt to find some stuff to improve his class,if not mega murder kirby

 

[DaMonkeMan]

seem like kirby actually resist black hole,the profile only tell it gravity manip lol,but a bunch of others stuff can still kill him though
again kirby inhale class is 1 in pre CC so he can't suck mega,if you want a better class,make a crt to find some stuff to improve his class,if not mega murder kirby

Oh fair, the inhale is around class 1 and his physicals are above for resisting the black hole. Makes sense.

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

Oh fair, the inhale is around class 1 and his physicals are above for resisting the black hole. Makes sense.

why not though,his physical is different than the inhale ability,that why in gameplay he can only inhale some object as small as him

 

[Kaio1277999]

I'll vote for megaman but kirby has his chances too

 

[TauanVictor]

Megaman FRA

 

[TheGuy]

Megamind Man FRA

 

[Kaio1277999]

well done my friends just to recap, and make things clearer,

KIRBY has one vote(theMonkeman)

,there's also ChaosJester who said he's only leaning towards KIRBY but he didn't confirm his vote,

ROCK has 6 votes(me,thekilleryt, iklaggan, Reploidnoridomix, Tauanvictor, Theguy),

there's also Kazuma Kuwabar who is undecided between Rock and inconclusive.

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

Tundra Storm is literally a gigantic tornado that affects the whole screen , unless is 360º AR, Kirby is not dodging nor reflecting that


Tundra Storm would affect him but I am seeing this point was already adressed, I am seeing the whole thread while writting

This is pre-canvas, so no Friend Heart, also because Kirby is ******* small, I don´t know how is he gonna inhale anything from Megaman, Kirby technically is a fly in this match

An energy attack over 10 times stronger would be like defeating Cell in Dragon Ball with a Kamehameha, but okey, he has regen, Megaman with gears outspeeds and destroys his whole body

Flash stopper, Acid Rain, Time slow, Tundra Storm, Fire far hotter than the core of the sun, Can he eat electricity? Metal Blades are like Gordos technically (dubious even for me) etc

Plus Kirby is not eating everything if Megaman starts spamming all his weapons that tracks the opponent and every single one travels different directions, also, is transmutation the same as petrification or are different? If different, concrete shot

Fair

Kirby is no slouch either

Also, if Kirby summons a Helper, Megaman can summon his robot friends like Rush or Tango, Rush Adapter gives him flight and more power, he could be able to stack the Adapter with double gear but Kirby can also touch Megaman and copy all of his powers (the page says so, but no idea if this only applies to his ball form or not)

For now is inconclusive or Megaman extremely hard difficulty, and because is Kirby without op powers like ghost Kirby, if not Kirby murders easily

at this point you should vote mega,like kirby in this key doesn't have very much resist though,while mega resist most of kirby stuff except the transmutation which take many time to perform

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I think we just need some supporters for Kirby or to change his key, I'm almost the only one arguing for Kirby here.

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

I think we just need some supporters for Kirby or to change his key, I'm almost the only one arguing for Kirby here.

change any key and we have 4-A kirby and that a massive stomp you know

 

[DimeUhDozen]

Blue Bomber FRA.

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

well grace start now

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Megaman FRA

 

[X_Squared]

Yeah I didn't wanna get into this cause I thought it was gonna be a bloodbath but Mega Man should take it both FRA and after looking at their stats.

Kirby's inhale is dangerous but his inhale has short range and its Class 1 force is nowhere near strong enough to pull Mega Man in, especially when he's ran against black holes before and has much higher physical strength. His experience against foes with pulling forces and his combat intelligence means Kirby's suction is not a new threat to him and he can find ways to work around it.

Some hax like AZ and time manip are useful and maaaaybe Mega Man can pull a Galaxy Man by using Concrete Shot to temporarily seal Kirby's mouth or something.

 

[Kaio1277999]

F for Kirby

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Yeah I didn't wanna get into this cause I thought it was gonna be a bloodbath but Mega Man should take it both FRA and after looking at their stats.

Kirby's inhale is dangerous but his inhale has short range and its Class 1 force is nowhere near strong enough to pull Mega Man in, especially when he's ran against black holes before and has much higher physical strength.

He still resisted what seems to be a Black Hole ( and if he uses Stone he's completely immune to the black hole )

The LS part is wrong, but it doesn't change the outcome of the match so I don't care.
Uh, can we add this to the pages then?