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Rest is good though. The results don't really change.Dude, Zoro reacted to them, kept up with them, and dodged them consistently.
You still vote for Oden, then?Rest is good though. The results don't really change.
King also has a mobility advantage.Oden's wincons:
1. Higher AP
2. Comparable stamina
King's wincons:
1. Durability
2. One-shot explosion, Omori Karyudon, and Imperial Pride Stake
3. AP amps to keep up with Oden.
4. Incredible speed amps
5. Range
6. His magma fire could possibly burn Oden
Do you vote for King?King also has a mobility advantage.
I can't believe it, but I do.Do you vote for King?
1. King is equal to his speed in base and has plenty of speed amps.Oden wins via better strength, speed and skill with Haki + Enma would give him the win over King which hes more skilled than even Zoro with it plus Oden resisted Kaido's Bolo Breath so he has heat resistance to King's flames. Voting Oden
King kept up with Zoro who ***** on Oden in skill.Oden wins via better strength, speed and skill with Haki + Enma would give him the win over King which hes more skilled than even Zoro with it plus Oden resisted Kaido's Bolo Breath so he has heat resistance to King's flames. Voting Oden
Hmm.. I wouldn't go this far but he is more skilled.King kept up with Zoro who ***** on Oden in skill.
Mihawk >>>>> Zoro >>>> Oden in terms of swordsmanship.
1. Jesus, you just burned Oden more than the boiling water did.Oden got boiled to death by boiling water.
His heat resistance ******* sucks, he isn't resisting the heat of King's magma fire nor is he reacting to King's amps which allowed him to blitz Zoro who scales to an even stronger and faster Kaidou than Oden does, with Kenbunshoku Haki and 2 layers of Analytical Prediction from Goken.
Before anyone wants to say some dumb shit like "B-but Oden hurt Kaidou!" that was when he was likely much weaker and vastly less experienced than the Kaidou Zoro fought.
Zoro fought a Super Hybrid Kaidou / Hybrid Kaidou which is stronger and faster than Kaidou’s base form and his Full Zoan form. King was tanking attacks from Zoro with using his flame on attacks, and his heat feat scales much, much above the level of boiling water.
King is turning him into ashes. Boiling water doesn't come close to the shit that King is capable of with his fire.
Not close. Oden is on Kaido's Top 5 giving him PTSD.Oden got boiled to death by boiling water.
His heat resistance ******* sucks, he isn't resisting the heat of King's magma fire nor is he reacting to King's amps which allowed him to blitz Zoro who scales to an even stronger and faster Kaidou than Oden does, with Kenbunshoku Haki and 2 layers of Analytical Prediction from Goken.
Before anyone wants to say some dumb shit like "B-but Oden hurt Kaidou!" that was when he was likely much weaker and vastly less experienced than the Kaidou Zoro fought.
Zoro fought a Super Hybrid Kaidou / Hybrid Kaidou which is stronger and faster than Kaidou’s base form and his Full Zoan form. King was tanking attacks from Zoro with using his flame on attacks, and his heat feat scales much, much above the level of boiling water.
King is turning him into ashes. Boiling water doesn't come close to the shit that King is capable of with his fire.
Even though King can outspeed Oden and Oden literally cannot hurt him?Doesnt change my mind. Still voting Oden
I would love if King's explosion was called "Jackpot".Zoro: Got hit by about 70% of Hakai, used Asura, and got hit by Thunder Bagua, all of which were needed to put him in a spliff.
He heals, goes to fight King, and nearly gets ****** by King's explosion which I will dub " Jackpot ".
Point is, Zoro would have been seriously wounded by Jackpot while he could take a Thunder Bagua right after taking Hakai and stay conscious.
Oden: Went night night from a sneak attack by a weaker version of Kaidou.
I really wonder who wins here.
I think that's the name of it from a TCB translation or something.I would love if King's explosion was called "Jackpot".
Y'all act like King is way faster when Zoro himself mentions King flame off is a lil bit faster. King with flame off would leave himself vulnerable to attacks and Oden would land an attack on him and finish him with Togen Totsuka. We see Zoro being slower as u say than Imperial Deep Pride stake and still dodges. Oden isnt that much slower even by the scaling u noted here. Narratively, and via better statements and feats Oden beats up King. The guy who took a Kamusari head on and got back up with minor injuries went on to fight Roger back then WB interfered. Unless u wanna say King's AP > Rogers APEven though King can outspeed Oden and Oden literally cannot hurt him?
Imperial Deep Pride Stake > FTE > Zoro's Reaction Speed ~ King's Reaction Speed & Flame Off Zoan King > Flame Off Base King > FTE > 1035 Zoro's Combat Speed ~ Zoan King > Base King ~ Post-rooftop Zoro ~ Big Mom/Base Kaido = Oden
Zoro can be burned by King's Flames, right? I doubt Oden's resistance is greater than his.Not close. Oden is on Kaido's Top 5 giving him PTSD.
Also nobody mentioned boling water here. Oden resisted Bolo Breath which no one can prove King flames are hotter than Kaido's Bolo Breath. Yeah Oden slams
Being faster than eye isn't even an impressive feat at all. OP verse is FTL in reaction speed like Luffy, Zoro and u wanna say King whos "FTE" is impressive? Not at all. + Zoro was fatigued already nothing proves Zoro was fully healed in the fight since he had broken brones which would decrease his mobility and movements in the fight. Oden wins this and i still vote for him nonetheless for the reasons above. Count my vote for himOne: Roger wasn't even trying to seriously hurt Oden when he used Kamusari, he just wanted to fight anyone he saw fit. Even still, Oden got launched by it and bled from the mouth a little.
Two: King literally went so fast that he couldn't be seen by Zoro, wth do you mean he's just " a lil bit faster. "?
Three: No the hell Oden wouldn't finish him with Togen Totsuka. King got popped by an Advanced Armament + ACoC attack and was still able to use his strongest attack despite it. Oden isn't gonna finish him and there's nothing that even suggests he'll need to turn his flame off since he didn't seem to ever do it against Marco.
Oden resisted Bolo Breath. Nothing proves Kings flames are hotter than Kaido's flamesZoro can be burned by King's Flames, right? I doubt Oden's resistance is greater than his.
Oden uses Buso to defend himself. A simple explosion wont kill Oden. An explosion didnt even kill PellHe only turned his flames off in canon because he panicked and Zoro was not dying as quickly as he thought.
The explosion alone would one-shot Oden.
What do you think Zoro took the Mink Meds for if they didn't at least somewhat heal his broken bones?Being faster than eye isn't even an impressive feat at all. OP verse is FTL in reaction speed like Luffy, Zoro and u wanna say King whos "FTE" is impressive? Not at all. + Zoro was fatigued already nothing proves Zoro was fully healed in the fight since he had broken brones which would decrease his mobility and movements in the fight. Oden wins this and i still vote for him nonetheless for the reasons above. Count my vote for him
Hybrid, or Full Yield?Oden resisted Bolo Breath. Nothing proves Kings flames are hotter than Kaido's flames
City busting bomb = Surface wiping magic attackOden uses Buso to defend himself. A simple explosion wont kill Oden. An explosion didnt even kill Pell
Even then. Oden defends with Buso. Oden isnt losing from King. Aerial Mobility, And Ranged attacks wont help King completely outclass Oden at all. What makes u think King's attack would kill Oden and beat him while Oden was resisting Bolo Breath which is a High 6-A attack? And also portrayal and narrative simply puts Oden above King by being the only guy who was said to take down Kaido in Wano but failed bc of the old hag interference. If he beat Kaido as the scenario says. He would beat King too simple and square. Idk how you guys King see beating Oden at all. I consider myself this a missmatch but k it is what it is. You find a stomp match Zoro vs Big Mom but wont find a stomp match King vs Oden which Kaido put Oden at his Top 5 and always got PTSD even in his prime from Oden's Haki while he never had BM im his Top 5. But okTad disrespectful to compare a random bomb to King's explosion which nearly killed Zoro.
Full Yield in their fight when he was in his Dragon FormHybrid, or Full Yield?
City busting bomb = Surface wiping magic attack
Scans?Full Yield in their fight when he was in his Dragon Form
Oden doesn't have advanced Buso.Zoro took hits from the Yonko just like Oden did.
And he still would've been one-shot by King's explosion had he not used Buso.
And nothing says Oden's Buso is as good as Zoro's in regards to Haki layers.
And he doesn't have Zoro's buso potency layers, eitherOden doesn't have advanced Buso.