KId Buu vs Ultra necrozma

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

@Mania

Fair then, but that still isnt going against Kid Buu very likely still not pulling this out because of his nature and character.

@J-Man

Doesn't mean it's right and when exactly does this even occur? Not on the threads I go on. This is even repeated by other staff. If you want something added, you make a CRT for it, even if very minor.

As for absorbtion, even if that is the case the blobs are still getting destroyed by Necros attacks.

And ofc Buu would teleport after destroying the earth, floating in space with nothing else to do is ridiculous.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

A few times, plenty actually, in fact there was a thread recebtly (weekly) that used sonething not on some profile . Of course i let slide if he provided evidence . Kinda like i did . Yeah becayse necrozma will defintly be aware of that , hell, he could just have a speck of himself hide in rubble and wait , like gohan .

Yeah he would , but he also wont neglect it if needed. If ya really wanna go that route, in character necrozma uses like 3 moves and melee.

Abd my bad, but then again, that was another buu .

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Owen Wilson Says WOW - (PART 1) - Complete

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

The only wow factor here is how bad typing on a phone is. Actually ashamed.

 

[Fankid]

I go Necrozoma, as Buu can't hurt him as he's light based, and i realised that you do not have to attack from the atomic level to hurt Buu, proof of example, Vegito. Necro is far stronger, and could one shot Buu.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

And why cant he hurt him? Being light based won't stop planet AOE attacks from harming him.

And Vegito kinda didn't do anything to harm him permanetly .

 

[Fankid]

Isn't light pretty much immune to damage, his body is actually light, not just the attacks, it also means that buu can't absorb him.

Vegito didn't want to kill him, this was a heavily suppressed hit, and that's not even the point, the point is he could actually hurt him and not just cause superficial damage because he's superior to buu, and Necro is far far superior, i've shown that in a comment far above.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

And ? Unless all pokemon can punch light now , and light burns at 10000 degrees. And in that case buu can become vapor . Plus we aren't even sure . And even then , buu packs enough power to disperse light and the like.

Yeah Vegito harmed him, but could not kill .

 

[Fankid]

Can punch light, what exactly do you mean by that? Light burns at 10,000 degrees? Buu can be killed, his Regenerationn will wear down after heavy damages, the fight with vegito proves such, and DBZ characters, as well as Buu, as proven when he fought Buu, loose energy when they are damaged.

Again, not the point, and yes he damn could, all the kais were even commenting on Vegito just not killing him, the reason he didn't do so is because his friends were in Buu. Vegito even destroyed a piece of him, and it's not like when Goku blasts a hole in him, he actually destroyed the piece.

Read manga Dragon Ball Chapter 505: online in high quality

Read manga Dragon Ball Chapter 506: online in high quality

Read manga Dragon Ball Chapter 515: online in high quality

Look in these chapters, the first two is the vegito fight, and the final one is the buu fight, where vegeta says "Fatso's power is getting smaller and smaller"

 

[Theglassman12]

Umm, his fight with vegito never showed anything involving his regen being worn out. It was him just trying to lower vegito's guard down since he knew he can't beat him head-on.

 

[Fankid]

Vegito destroyed that big thing on Buu's head, and actually made the guy bleed, so i beg to differ. That other part that was blasted off was in the fight with Gotenks, that was not from Vegito.

 

[Theglassman12]

And he still regenerated from that. Like I said before, he was trying to trick vegito so he can either turn him into candy (which didn't worked) or absorb him.

 

[Fankid]

You're ignoring the fact that Vegito could have killed him anytime he wanted, as i explained before, and that he wasn't doing so because it'd kill his friends and half sons. Look at the last page of the first source i provided, and keep looking throughout the other chapter, all of them say that he could kill the guy in an instant.

 

[Theglassman12]

So what part of "vegito couldv'e killed him" negates the fact that majin buu regenerated from all of his injuries, no matter how severe they were?

 

[Fankid]

It that a stronger opponent can overcome his regen.

 

[Theglassman12]

No it doesn't. No matter how heavy the damage is, if it doesn't kill him, he'll regenerate from the damage.

 

[Fankid]

So you ignore everything, i damn show that he could one shot him, and you're still talking about if he damaged him, i'm not talking about damages, i'm talking about if he one shots him. Necro is far stronger BTW.

 

[Theglassman12]

Buu's Regenerationn prevents him from being one shotted by normal means. If he has a hax that destroys Buu entirely or incapacitates him, then it would defeat him.

 

[Fankid]

I already proved that Vegito could have one shot him due to being stronger, hax is not involved. Buu;s body gets destroyed, but his cells, or molecules, i'm not sure, don't get destroyed, well vegito is strong enough to do so.

 

[Theglassman12]

Yeah no, Beerus is far stronger than buu, and he was still conscious when he was tossed around by him in BOG. the same applies here.

 

[Fankid]

Except he didn't one shot Ultimate Gohan either, he also didn't one shot piccolo, or tien, or 18, so no it doesn't, plus, i've already proved that wrong.

 

[Theglassman12]

So you're telling me that someone that's between 30-40 Foes is going to one shot someone that's FAR above baseleine solar system level?

 

[Fankid]

Oh, i though it said tera foe, my apologies. I conceed.

 

[Fankid]

Inconclusive, they can't harm each other

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

@J-Man

The problem with this is that Kid Buu, unlike the other buu's, is NO-WHERE near as smart or tactical in using strategies like that, this is even a weakness we note for Buu on his page. Granted, he definitely can use the absorbtion but HOW he uses it is very very debatable and whats to say hiding the piece is insufficient when Necro would either just nuke the area or never even go near where it's hidden? Plus given the sheer AP difference Buu would have to absorb him pretty quickly so he isn't blown to a point where he can't regenerate.

Furthermore, this "pokemon hurting Necrozma" for now could just be game mechanics. It's no different than pokemon hurting ghost types but we don't take away their (limited) intangibility. For Necrozma it shouldn't be any different. They'd have to hit him somehow or else Necrozma would literally be unstoppable in-game.


Also. Fankid is right to an extent. Vegitio at any time could have one shot Buu but he didnt because of him wanting to save Gotenks, Gohan and Piccolo and he aquired vegeta's cocky attitude of taking it easy and not finishing the battle right away. Forgive me, but this "no matter how severe if it doesn't kill him he comes back" sounds kinda NLFish. And what part of this is even true? Unlike Vegitio, Necrozma definitely isn't in the same boat of beating around the bush and since he's much stronger than Vegitio the sheer AP difference would destroy Buu, added with his durability bypassing too.

EDIT: 2 more things in Necrozma's favor. If Buu's teleporting isnt able to teleport to different space-times, then Necrozma can always still BFR. Plus Buu isn't the only one here with absorbtion. Necrozma can do the same thing just by touching him so if they were to physically clash Necrozma can get the drop on Buu and absorb him too.

 

[Landon_Avery]

Necrozma for reasons above.

 

[DodoNova2]

My idea seems to have worked

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Just noting but kid buu can teleport to different space time. And buy can function as duplicates , if anything hed absorb necrozma . And man, kid buu litterally did that , did ya forget buff and good buu came about ? Oh and if necro actually only 30 or 40 foe, buu drags him out back .

And as for gane mechanics , ya ever actually see necrizma be intangible? Because ghosts types like gengar have been melee and punched , bith anime and manga .

 

[PaChi2]

I like how you can hug a gastly when its literal gas lol

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Ya all have seen that weavile picture , ya don't gitta explain shit .

 

[PaChi2]

Possible Intangibility (Is made of light)

Well if there is nothing more than that to its intangibility, I believe Buu can actually hit Necro. Any proof of Necrozma being intangible? Maybe in the movie...

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

@PaChi2

But who doesnt love gas?? ovo

@J-Man

Based on? Im pretty sure we've clarified that the afterlives aren't separate space-times anymore. And what would duplicates do here?

No, the blobs are easily getting destroyed and like I said its extremely debatable on whether Kid Buu would even be smart enough to use absorbtion in that manner. Yes he did it to South Kai but that was when he was beaten down and too heavily weakened to counter. All Necrozma needs is a touch and buu is absorbed.

Not by fighting attacks. The times they've been "touched" is when they're hit by elemental moves. Thats why I said limited intangibility earlier. And using the anime isn't a good counter when it shows Haunter being intangible to even other souls (16:31).

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Also, when has "possibly" been a factor regarding abilities? Weren't we supposed to drop that? This is just like when people used to use "possibly" or "likely" to determine if another characters power was higher or lower than anothers during a vs match up and it was explained why that isn't an argument.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Actually no, nobody gives a shit since it always gets out of hand . And afterlife=/=world of Kai .

Duplicates? Would prevent his death and allow him to absirb back .

And nice try, but all buu needs is a touch and necrozma gets absorbed , see how that works ?

>fighting . >using type arguments .

Well ya in luck , buu is pure magic .

And dude , have ta seen necrozma actually be intangible . No, and it not even actual light , has no properties except burning .


And once again, have ta actually figured out if necrozma had higher ap or Not? Well since your like half of the argument hinges on necrozma being like thousands above .

 

[Bluetrekking]

The afterlives are different space-times and we still express them as such. Either way, pretty sure Necrozma wins given that this is kid buu

 

[DodoNova2]

it is noted Universal*

this was debated then downgrade

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Yeah, no to the spacetime stuff. That was discussed in heat.

 

[DodoNova2]

I saw or saw the words "Two Space Time" and "Dragon Ball"? the war will begin? ovo
Just one last thing, it's funny that Dragon Ball has a debate over this all the time while For sailor moon,a sentence rules the case OvO

 

[PaChi2]

Also, when has "possibly" been a factor regarding abilities? Weren't we supposed to drop that? This is just like when people used to use "possibly" or "likely" to determine if another characters power was higher or lower than anothers during a vs match up and it was explained why that isn't an argument.

I dont think "Possible" in abilities is a thing. Its either you have it or dont, and actually, if necrozma hasnt shown that ability, it shouldnt be in his profile tbh

 

[DodoNova2]

PaChi !!! it's been a while since I've seen you

Regarding the match up, it depends on the intangibility of Necrozma