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KId Buu vs Ultra necrozma

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Literally me to a T whenever I play my UM game before school the next day lol. Kommo-o, your talking about the dragon type trial right?

Also not sure but I find moon better than sun anyways sooo lets just go with yes then, ovo
 
Wait, wait. How will Kid Buu hurt this guy, he's made of light.

Gohan isn't that much weaker than Goku btw, this is because Gohan filled half of Buu's energy tank with a rage boost that made him Comparable to his Cell Games level, so let's just assume that Goku is 25-50% stronger, due to scaling. So he's around 5-6 x the base level of solar system level. Necro is thousands, if not millions of times stronger User blog:Darkanine/Pokemon: Necrozma illuminates Ultraspace (very rough) | VS Battles Wiki | FANDOM powered by Wikia, but i'm not sure if he can attack from the molecular level, or the atomic level.
 
And the death ball looking like the spirit bomb means it could off Buu? It being a big ball means litterally nothing .
 
Except this isnt just a big ball? It's literally absorbing energy from the surroundings. Which is, y'know, exactly what the S.B. does?
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Except this isnt just a big ball? It's literally absorbing energy from the surroundings. Which is, y'know, exactly what the S.B. does?
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Irrelevant.

Its either you have the AP of the Genkidama in question (which, for the record, Buu overpowered) or its irrelevant from where the big energy ball comes from.
 
Yeah and? And that matters how? Could the spirit bomb from the Frieza or namek saga kill buu? The answer is not at all . The spirit bomb drawing energy from things had nothing to do with kiling buu .
 
And if it's because of AP, Necrozma has the far superior AP advantage unless im mistaken. So what exactly make this move different from S.B. still?
 
No one questioned the ap, but the whole it acts similar and draws energy and actually is light , that is completely irrelevant and has literally zero effect on anything .
 
Okay thats fauir but if we're saying they're both the same AP wise then, which Necrozma definitely fits the bill on, then there shouldn't be a problem now.
 
Yeah , ignoring buu dodging . Considering he can teleport . And the only way he got hit in the manga was hevwas held down .
 
And no one actually stated if necro had higher ap exceot me , and only guessed at that . Maybe he does but ya.best figure that out .
 
Held down isnt an argument since even with that, he blocked it at first when Goku was low on power. Unless someone can explain, im pretty sure Necrozma is even higher than the Goku that launched the S.B. succesfully to destroy buu, but I could be wrong on this note.

Speed Equal so good luck dodging. Plus Necrozma could always just use stuff like psychic or whatnot to hold Buu down. And as for teleporting, Kid Buu needs to lock on an energy signature for that. He isnt using IT just whenever like Supreme Kai can. And I doubt Necrozma is gonna sit and let him do that for a second.
 
Actually an argument . Speed equal? Nice, helps him dodging actually , unless necrozma happens fires it from feet away and right on him and .

Cool and? Buu has telekinesis too . And ya completely wrong there because it is literally the exact kind Kai has .

And ya figure out how much higher necro actually is yet ?
 
No it wasn't because if it was, Goku and Vegeta wouldnt have needed to raise their power levels to have him sense their energy and come to them on the Kai Planet from Other World.

How is speed being equal going to help him dodge when it would mean Necro can fight and fire at the same speeds Buu can dodge? Granted it would mean Necrozma isn't outspeeding but Buu wouldnt be outdodging.

Very weak telekinesis if anything (I don't even remember him having that but no qualms) and using it against a psychic type kinda isn't the best idea.

EDIT: Read my next comment.
 
Looking back, nvm about the teleportation. We do acknolwedge it like the Kais. However, also looking on it, Buu doesnt have telekinesis listed on his page either. So until a CRT is up to get it added from wherever it comes from, using it here is no dice.

And for Kid Buu, im very doubtful he'd be busting out teleportation right at the start when he didnt even do that against Goku, Vegeta or Fat Buu. Or the S.B.
 
That was to have him take the focus off what he was destroying . And bevause buu didnt have any idea where goku was , he could of got here without sensing . And yeah it was , he copied the technique off supreme Kai .

Exactly , unless necrozma fires it at him from up close buy can dodge . And teleporting makes that even better .

Telekenisis that scales to his ap .
 
Ya and me both know he has it , everyone here does . I'm not gonna go make a crt for something ya already acknowledged him owning , itd be a waste of time . If I do it wont be now. If maybe it was some obscure thing yeah but the profile lists it already, youre nitpicking anyway here, anime version but same scene happens in the manga .

And yeah , but he was also kinda winning afainst Goku and Vegeta handily , he had no need for that abd even then he occasionally used that anyway.
 
Eh, DB would be one of the few times I'd say we can't assume their TK is equal to their AP unless they've shown it (i.e. Vegeta and Frieza)
 
First off. if all of us acknowledged he had it, it would be on his page already. But it isn't. No where on there and I checked like 3 times already. If you want to use an ability you say he has that isn't listed here by us, you make a CRT. Thats how it works with every character, Buu is no different. So don't accuse me of nitpicking when there's nothing to nitpick with Buu.

Secondly, that was only Vegeta. Goku was ptetty much on equal ground with Buu until SSJ3 went away. Kid Buu wasn't getting stomped but he wasn't beating him handily either.

Third, what Cal said about the TK and what I already said before. Good luck using a TK on another psychic type and Kid Buu very likely isn't busting out teleportation as quick as you think because of his character of fighting solely as a wild animal.
 
He will but only when Cal beats the game.

Though, if you want @Cal, I could help you gather feats and such. When playing the game I always take pics of either funny moments or scans of the legendaries n such. And im under the impression im ahead of you in the game. So i'd be more than happy to help you anyway I can, if you want :)
 
necrozma finisher if to be taken from the game is kinda slow, couldnt buu attack him, prepare to dodge as he knows its comming with teleport or just take a piece out of his back, hide it and even if necrozma pulverizes him, he still revives. in theory it would be impossible for kid buu to lose to the z warriors as long as he kept fragmenting himself as the pieces have 0 ki imprinted for them to notice where it was, and is necrozma immune to being turned into candy or absorved?
 
Based on what Necrozma's going to get an upgrade? I'm looking foward for this.
 
Its called forgetting kukui . And i even showed ya . And? Being psychic wont stop telekinisis. Doesnt grant immunity.

Yeah , up untill buu startibg winning. Comparable but he couldnt hold .

In case ya somehow missed that .

>but he was also kinda winning afainst Goku and Vegeta handily , he had no need for that abd even then he occasionally used that anyway.

He actually had use teleportation in dodging anyway kukui, your point is moot .

And why wouldnt buu have tk equal to his ap when everyone ever does, like vegeta , beerus , kai, freeza , etc ?
 
Candy Beam is incredibly easy to dodge, heck it can even be blown right back at the user. Literally.

As for the finisher, that might be game mechanics but I won't go more into it. Besides, speed is equalized so technique speeds are irrelevent.

Teleportation is likely not going to be used right away by this Buu given his nature.

Posession, Necrozma can just destroy the pieces and again, Kid Buu likely wouldnt bust that out as a strategy (but this is more debatable)
 
Kai has it so ignore what I'm about to say if you don't care, as it's moot for Buu, but afaik, TK isn't ki-based.
 
"Forgetting" isn't an argument. But like I already said. Make a CRT to get it added or its not able to be used here. We're not suddenly going to disregard how we treat pages just because. And I know being psychic wouldnt grant immunity (NLF anyway) it would give Necrozma ridiculous resistance for being said type.

Evidence of him using the teleportion in combat please?
 
not using teleportation doesnt mean he cant, he didnt use it because it wasnt needed/viable for said fight, if its needed here he wouldnt not use it.
 
I never said he couldnt, don't put words in my mouth. Im saying he'd most likely not use it because of his nature and character. Besides, Goku was giving him a tremendously good fight as SSJ3 for a great length until Kid Buu got the upper hand. I fail to see how teleportation wasn't useful in that regard (that is until evidence of him using it against Goku comes up).
 
kid buu knew goku couldnt finish him he was toying with them both, the logic of not using it often should be completly irrelevant outside of 1 hit kills, if the fight is long and he has a chance to use a skill he has, he will, like goku only using ki blasts agaisnt perfect cell or piccolo using explosive demon wave on og db and then completely skip it all the dbz to use it once on dbs, that means he didnt need it, the second he did he used it, thus saying he wouldnt because he didnt in his ONE fight is irrelevant, if he needs it he will use it. that simple
 
Candy beam was never deflected in the manga, and it is not easy to didge. Only as easy as literally any other attack .

Literally the first thing buu did was planet bust and teleport. And he did it a few times when fighting goku ssj3, and dont got the manga just lying around to grab a scan . Dragon ball kinda not my main territory, dont have that on hand always .

Buu always busts out absorbtion when cornered . Everytime .

Kukui, no offense, but we do that shit all the time, even doing it right now for necrozma. Even linked ya him having tk . Ill makeba crt, but i got other shit i gotta do , like making a different crt.
 
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