Khârn the Betrayer vs Son Goku

[The_real_cal_howard]

So, I'm...the match?

Actually meant to comment this. I'm honestly not trying to change the subject.

WH40K and M:tG characters stomp Kirby.

 

[Kaltias]

Dang I miss my 4-A Akron he would have made the trick

Seiya has a 4-A key or I misremeber?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I know Shaka does and that's all that matters. Also we are derailing horribly...

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Ffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu....

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

Wouldn't this be a spite since Kharn pretty much wrecks Goku due to hax?

RIP

 

[Kaltias]

Kharn only has dura negation tho

 

[FateAlbane]

In the hax department, Kharn only has dura negation by hitting people with an axe in CQC.

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

Goku has no counter for dura negation though so he still loses.

 

[Kaltias]

Pretty sure that Goku is the stronger 4-B as explained above

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Goku also has no way past Khorne's blessing

 

[Kaltias]

We generally consider that one deactivated by default since basically no 3D character but the Emprah can bypass it

 

[LordGinSama]

Couldn't Goku simply disarm Kharn of his axe if need be? ( This might be a stretch and difficult.) And how good is Kharn when it comes to unarmed combat?

 

[Kaltias]

I dunno how good he is disarmed, but considering the amount of the experience under his belt, I dunno if it's a viable option

 

[FateAlbane]

Goku has no counter for dura negation though so he still loses.

He has Dodging.

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

^Lmao best excuse ever.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I mean Instant Transmission is a useful move here.

 

[FateAlbane]

I'm 100% serious.

Goku against Normal axe >>> If it cuts me in half, I'll die. Better dodge it.

Goku against Kharn's axe >>> If it cuts me in half, I'll die and then my soul will be sucked as a bonus. Better dodge it.

It's not like the Axe is some undodgeable, sure-hit kill thing that cannot be avoided.

 

[FateAlbane]

Also if the "X character needs a counter for everything Y has otherwise they can't win" was real, we would always have only stomp or inconclusive matches.

 

[Blanked]

So, like giving Goku the knowledge of soul cutting axe? With instant transmission this would become pretty interesting.

 

[Kaltias]

Why would he need knowledge to know "axes kill people"?

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

Is he even fast enough to dodge the axe?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

3rd time's the charm.

I gave Goku the Power Pole for this match.

C'mon. Someone address it...

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Kharn via experience and durability negation

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I think Goku could win through range, albeit he would only kill Kharn's mortal body. However, Kharn could win if he gets the hit.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Kharn has as much durability negation as Trunks and his sword does. See Fate's above comment. And Goku has more than enough experience to render the experience point as a whole for both of them moot.

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

Except Trunks' sword doesn't have durability negation so you can't compare that to Kharn's axe.

 

[LordGinSama]

Honestly I have a feeling nobody wants to vote for Goku just to avoid being that one guy who votes for Goku against a character like this. I guess I'll be that one guy.

I'm giving my vote to the real super sand due to superior range, possibly higher AP and fighting skill, the use of instant transmission and versatility.

 

[FateAlbane]

I doubt he would try to tank an axe when he can do stuff like this and this .

Speed equal.

Unless you guys assume Goku would go Broly style thinking he can tank the Axe.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Except Trunks' sword doesn't have durability negation so you can't compare that to Kharn's axe.

Again, see Fate's above comment...about Azzy's comment.

 

[FateAlbane]

Durability Negation is useless if it doesn't connect. Azzy himself said something like just poking with the axe doesn't insta drag the soul away. Kharn has to give a direct hit - he is adept at getting hits, sure, but so is Goku a competent fighter and he won't be there standing and waiting for an axe to cut him in half. At that point the Soul aspect doesn't matter because a normal Axe would kill him as well if it bysected or gave a mortal/powerful enough blow.

Plus physical stats advantage is on Goku's favor, which some seem to be ignoring.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

AND PEOPLE ARE STILL IGNORING THE POWER POLE!

(You can clearly tell I'm joking, right?)

 

[FateAlbane]

>> Cal: I'm going to give Goku the power pole for Range advantage against Gorechild in CQC.


/thread

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I think Goku may win?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Tfw Cal of all people is giving points in Goku's favor.

 

[Byakuya_"Senbonzakura"_Kuchiki]

Still siding with Kharn lol even though I'm way more familiar with Goku XD!!

 

[FateAlbane]

I sense forces of a different Chaos at work here, forces that are trying to put Kharn down.

Anyways, what's the vote count so far?

 

[LordGinSama]

I believe it's two for Kharn and one for Goku

 

[FateAlbane]

No, there should be at least two inconclusives around given my vote and Dragon right after.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

>> Cal: I'm going to give Goku the power pole for Range advantage against Gorechild in CQC.

...the idea was that the Power Pole could be used for parrying.

 

[FateAlbane]

Though you know what, just because of this whole "Axe" and "Ignoring the power pole", who cares, I vote Goku . Three for Goku now (Knightofannihilation666, FateAlbane, Matthew Schroeder).