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Alright sure I can agree with the speed part.Wrong.
He shouldn't. Jotaro is the main one fighting, he has a summon that happens to be a part of himself which he usually fights with. That isn't Jotaro's physical combat speed.
Wrong again, SP can very easily grab the power pole, or, you know even using your blatantly wrong arguments, just punch it aside.
Fair but he definitely punches more. Though I didn't say he doesn't grab, I meant that he starts with punching in character not grabbing.Uh, he can if he wants to? He's done it before. See him vs Magician's Red, Hierophant Green, etc. (Thinking on it, Plat actually leads of with grabbing his opponent's neck or something to restrain them quite a bit).
Wait who said this lol.Whoever said Ki was invisible PLEASE watch dragon ball ONCE
Wait who said this lol.
Also also, how come Goku is unable to interact with him? Ki and Stands are both powers derived from the life force of the body, no? If Goku can perceive and interact with the invisible life energy of his own verse, under Standard Battle Assumptions, would he not be able to interact with Stands?
If Goku can perceive and interact with the invisible life energy
Goku literally can't interact with SP here, how does he stab itAlright sure I can agree with the speed part.
But while yes SP can grab the power pole he can't do anything if goku extends it, or swings it while extended nor can he do anything about a kamehameha, also "punch it aside" lol SP doesn't have the AP.
Knowing jotaro's starting moves, SP wil try to parry the pole just to get stabbed and killed.
Fair but he definitely punches more. Though I didn't say he doesn't grab, I meant that he starts with punching in character not grabbing.
Stab jotaro with the nyobo, not sp. SP can't stop it unless he grabs it but it happening if goku extends it.Goku literally can't interact with SP here, how does he stab it
He gets a *****, a voodoo doll, and then creates a ritual!Goku literally can't interact with SP here, how does he stab it
TRUE, AND THEY'RE ALSO MADE OF KI SO THEY'RE INVISIBLEHe gets a *****, a voodoo doll, and then creates a ritual!
I'm pretty sure SP has the reactions to move Jotaro out of the way if he notices it extending, also Goku kinda shouts out when he extends it so that helps him here tooStab jotaro with the nyobo, not sp. SP can't stop it unless he grabs it but it happening if goku extends it.
Wait... wtf? Star platinum is like MFTL combat speed right? Wtf can Goku even do if SP can just move jotaro... my whole argument was that jotaro's combat speed is slow so he won't be able to dodge the power pole. The only way Goku could possibly win is if jotaro tries to parry an attack and dies, if he dodges then goku loses and time stop gg.I'm pretty sure SP has the reactions to move Jotaro out of the way if he notices it extending, also Goku kinda shouts out when he extends it so that helps him here too
TS is restricted here though, and yeah I agree this is a stomp since speed unequalized means Goku can't use any AOE without getting reacted to.Wait... wtf? Star platinum is like MFTL combat speed right? Wtf can Goku even do if SP can just move jotaro... my whole argument was that jotaro's combat speed is slow so he won't be able to dodge the power pole. The only way Goku could possibly win is if jotaro tries to parry an attack and dies, if he dodges then goku loses and time stop gg.
Time stop can't be restricted, it's an ability that jotaro has. Unless jotaro literally jobs and tanks every attack like that nincompoop Alien X, he won't lose.TS is restricted here though, and yeah I agree this is a stomp since speed unequalized means Goku can't use any AOE without getting reacted to.
There's literally a key without itTime stop can't be restricted, it's an ability that jotaro has. Unless jotaro literally jobs and tanks every attack like that nincompoop Alien X, he won't lose.
First key has Star Platinum: The World tho lolThere's literally a key without it
Actually shouldn't you be allowed to restrict TS from High 8-C Jotaro? Hypothetically he can get extremely angry to the point of reaching the tier before getting TS.Not really a key but a rating, 8-C+ SP doesn't have TS, High 8-C Jotaro has, from first key at least.
In the bottom paragraph he literally says its able to be seen by people, he's talking about the concept of ki in real life not DB."For the Kamehameha, I thought I’d see if I could express “ki” energy, which can’t be seen with the naked eye, in a boys’ magazine sort of way."
"As opposed to the other techniques here, which can bee seen in the shape of energy bullets, this category of technique cannot be directly seen by the naked eye. Things like the Kikoho and shockwaves are techniques included in this category."
"Techniques that are plain but effective aren’t suited for manga. Stuff like strangleholds and locking techniques are troublesome to draw and hard to make very flashy. Even the Kamehameha is a technique that expels “ki”, which by nature is invisible, but I was able to make it flashy by hitting upon the idea of portraying it as something that could be seen with the naked eye. With that pose too, I tried out a lot of different ones. What’s more, I had to think up special characteristics for each character’s techniques, but I ran out of patterns really fast, so it was tough (laughs)."
Goku can't sense ki in this key anyways, I'm pretty sure if it were King Piccolo saga he could at least sense SP somewhatNormal ESP isn't enough to see Stands.
Fighters can't see the invisible techniques either."For the Kamehameha, I thought I’d see if I could express “ki” energy, which can’t be seen with the naked eye, in a boys’ magazine sort of way."
"As opposed to the other techniques here, which can bee seen in the shape of energy bullets, this category of technique cannot be directly seen by the naked eye. Things like the Kikoho and shockwaves are techniques included in this category."
"Techniques that are plain but effective aren’t suited for manga. Stuff like strangleholds and locking techniques are troublesome to draw and hard to make very flashy. Even the Kamehameha is a technique that expels “ki”, which by nature is invisible, but I was able to make it flashy by hitting upon the idea of portraying it as something that could be seen with the naked eye. With that pose too, I tried out a lot of different ones. What’s more, I had to think up special characteristics for each character’s techniques, but I ran out of patterns really fast, so it was tough (laughs)."
He wouldn't.Goku can't sense ki in this key anyways, I'm pretty sure if it were King Piccolo saga he could at least sense SP somewhat
Stomp thread.who is voting who here again
he only has to go in front of it, he could literally use a fingerSP can't stop it unless he grabs it
He’d probably be able to tell that Jotaro isn’t normal at least, due to sensing his stand/life energy auraGoku can't sense ki in this key anyways, I'm pretty sure if it were King Piccolo saga he could at least sense SP somewhat
Goku literally can't sense here, as far as he can tell he's just dressed really weird with his hands in his pocketsHe’d probably be able to tell that Jotaro isn’t normal at least, due to sensing his stand/life energy aura
From what I’ve counted, seven people have voted for Jotaro (StekFence, TaunVictor, Myself, DaReaperMan, Brak, Nierre and Arceus0x)who is voting who here again