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Katekyo Hitman Reborn upgrades

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The difference between large island and small country is like 10 times. So if we can prove that he killed at least 10 at the same time he will be small country?
 
So, what I'm hearing is that the warriors didn't combine their strength into one attack and Hibari lol nope it.

So this Hibari dude will just be an indetermine amount higher than them, so he be, what is rating for those warriors, High 6-C each? Then he be "At least High 6-C".

@YukaSama4 - There is an edit button, you don't need to constantly make a new message every time. It clog up the thread very quickly.
 
Sorry bro, but in phone I can't make distance like a lines I don't know why so if I put more words after the link may be someone come and can't read the message in the right way.
 
Well naruto's clones can only take a certain amount of damage, which isn't a weakness Adel's ice puppets have iirc.

It's worth considering that she was confident enough to think she could at least fight on par with Tsuna who was as strong as Enma. And this was after she had seen a display of his power.
 
YungManzi said:
It's worth considering that she was confident enough to think she could at least fight on par with Tsuna who was as strong as Enma. And this was after she had seen a display of his power.
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Didnt she say that even an attack on the level of X Burner will not be enough to destroy her castle?
 
Looking back over this. the poower esculation is insane in the final arc. Vindice who were treating almost everyone like fodder before, got huge upgrades. Tsuna could go toe to toe with one of them, then Jager comes out and easily defeats Tsuna.

To which Reborn says, "There's no hope for you to win." Something which Reborn has previously never said before.
 
@Yuka

Yeah, she said that in chapter 321. The ice dome ability called Diamond Castle is supposed to withstand all flame attacks.
 
YungManzi said:
Looking back over this. the poower esculation is insane in the final arc. Vindice who were treating almost everyone like fodder before, got huge upgrades. Tsuna could go toe to toe with one of them, then Jager comes out and easily defeats Tsuna.

To which Reborn says, "There's no hope for you to win." Something which Reborn has previously never said before.
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Yes. Its almost like the gap in power between Jaeger and Tsuna was the biggest thing in all Tsuna's fights, Reborn also said something like this: "all this time I could see the winning in your hands though your oponents could not, but this time I cant see it".
 
Tsuna oath flames (who is stronger than Tsuna who stomped Daemon) + Hibari (who was stated to be a rival for Tsuna in VG + Mukuro (who is comparable to Hibari) all these 3 went on a 3 vs 1 against Jaeger in order to defeat him. Edit: Not to mention that the flames pressure from Tsuna in his VG at the last arc was strong enough to put Reborn on the ground without the ability to get near to Tsuna, he said: do you think you can really win against me? Then Tsuna said I will and increased his flames, Reborn said: that's right, you become stronger again. And this Reborn was going to attack Daemon but the Vindice prevented him, though they allowed the others to help Tsuna.. Makes the one wonders if Reborn is stronger than Daemon in his baby form.
 
Hmmm, didn't xanxussama and elizhaa agreed with the *6 multiplier? If yes then Xanxus said Tsuna will be country level.
 
And any character who is stronger than daemon with his 6 copies together will be country level. Like Reborn, Bermuda and Jager. Cheaker Face will be at least country level.

I'm not so sure, you can ask him.
 
From the looks of his profile, Oath Flame Tsuna is already at least country level. Kawahira would be Large Country level because of the 10x statement.

But I'm more-so talking about the lesser known characters, so we don't end up forgetting.

I know 7-B peeps are all now 7-A+ to High 7-A. And people who were 7-A to High 7-A are now solid 6-C. and previously 6-C people are now High 6-C, including people like Yamamoto and Gokudera for being at least comparable to varia members who can defeat post full awakening Enma while working together.
 
Someone should update the verse page with the new calculation, get rid of the old ones as well as put notes of the multiplier there as well so people can see when they want to do a KHR match.
 
Regarding to Daemon's multiplier by 6, it has been bothering me and a pal of mine. When they said that his power increased by 6, it could have probably been because he summon 5 other clones next to him with the same level of power.
 
Don't worry, I will update all of page today. I hold of update yesterday for wait Medeus to comment. And he came. So I will continue.

@Kobster YukaSama is the owner of that idea, so I will let her explain about it.
 
Xanxussama1010 said:
@Kobster YukaSama is the owner of that idea, so I will let her explain about it.
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Her? xD.. Well yeah it was because he can make other 5 of him each one has the same power level and they are all Daemon. So I said what if we can use their power combined, like what they made in dragon ball about beerus and champa here, the fight between beerus and champa will destroy 2 universes so any character is stronger than beerus and champa together will be 2-C. Also I saw multiple calcs for Gremmy from Bleach and they were saying: with 1 clone he is low 6-B but 2 clone he is.. And 6 he is.. I cant remember what happened to him. Well they did that because when he made another clone has the same ability as him, he said my ability now doubled so he became stronger.. So Xanxus said to me that with this 6 multiplier Daemon will be 6-B, and just so I said any character who us stronger than Daemon' copies togetger with the original one and he can solo all the 6 together will be also 6B like him.
 
Hmmm there is something I want to ask about. Where can I get a photo from the manga but in Japanese translate I think we should be sure about Kawahira because in some sites he said 10 times, in other sites he said several tens the likes of your flames. If I can get the photo we can ask someone to translate it. Because may be it will make a different in his level I mean when we say 10 times its just 10 times but if the correct translation was several tens he will be stronger.
 
Well, I can't know your gender from your nane, same as I can't know Mamon'gender lol

I don't know how to get Japanese scan. But the my native language translation version said that it's several tens. So I'm still not sure about it.
 
I'm not very good at English but I Think few can be used like 20 or may be 30 and several can be used for higher times like 50 and 60..ITC ,what is the lowest number for several? If it's 30 then cheker face will be at least large country level, like what @YungManzi said.
 
So what are the conclusions here, and are there any staff members listed in the Katekyo Hitman Rebor verse page that you can ask for help?
 
@Ant the conclusions are the things I list on first post. Elizhaa abd Medeus came here and agreed with them. So I updated the pages.
 
Okay. Never mind then. Should we close his thread?
 
Sorry for the late reply but with Daemon Spade being 6-B, I guess I can agree with that with his 6 bodies going from the Gremmy example. But I have to ask, why is Oath Flames Tsuna and those who scales to Tsuna are 6-B?

Oath Flames Tsuna did not stop a combined attack from the six bodies, he just stomped on the original Daemon Spade, who I believe is Low 6-B by himself. Wouldn't that makes OF Tsuna "At least Low 6-B" instead.
 
Well, I guess that make sense.

I can edit the profiles again. But let's wait for YukaSama to reply first.
 
Hmm doesn't this seem illogical? Tsuna in his VG nearly killed Daemon by XX Burner and Daemon himself said: if the attack was a bit stronger he wouldn't have been able to return. And now we will say that Tsuna in OF, Bermuda and Reborn can't defeat Daemon? I don't know how Tsuna's flames in VG will be stronger than his flames in OF, Tsuna in OF can use Emma's , Primo's and First Cozart' flames along with his own flames, and Daemon said in chapter 342 that Tsuna' flames was very very close to erase him.
 
Does it? Daemon Spade was by himself in his original body and was weakened from tanking an XX Burner from Vongola Gear Tsuna when Oath Flames Tsuna stomped on him.

Daemon Spade by himself is Low 6-B from the current scaling, not 6-B.
 
I have a question. Oath Flame Tsuna aside. But XX-Burner can destroy 6 bodies of Daemon at the same time. Does that mean XX-Burner is 6-B?

If answer of above question is yes. Can Oath Flame Tsuna who is stronger than VG Tsuna generate energy that at least equal to XX-Burner?
 
KobsterHope07 said:
Does it? Daemon Spade was by himself in his original body and was weakened from tanking an XX Burner from Vongola Gear Tsuna when Oath Flames Tsuna stomped on him.

Daemon Spade by himself is Low 6-B from the current scaling, not 6-B.
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I know but Tsuna in VG nearly killed him and Tsuna with OF is stronger than VG. Edit: Daemon spade who was weakend from XX burner said if the attack was a bit stronger he would have been dead right now. So if the XX Burner was a bit stronger it would have destroyed him.
 
Xanxussama1010 said:
I have a question. Oath Flame Tsuna aside. But XX-Burner can drstroy 6 bodies of Daemon at the same time. Does that mean XX-Burner is 6-B?

If answer of above question is yes. Can Oath Flame Tsuna who is stronger than VG Tsuna generate enery that at least equal to XX-Burner?
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I think yes but im not so sure someone should ask a member of calc group, the second question is also yes, Tsuna can use his flames with primo's and enma and first shimon. So he must be stronger than VG.
 
What is left to do here?
 
Antvasima said:
What is left to do here?
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If there is 6 fighters their power combined can destroy a country, then a character came and destroyed the 6 at once does that mean that the attack was at country level?
 
For more explaination, KobsterHope07 has a problem about some of character like Tsuna on 6-B stats. He said the character shouldn't be on 6-B as Daemon Spade (the guy that we use to scale 6-B stats) is only Low 6-B physically

Anyway, Yukasama explained that Daemon can create 6 copy of bodies which all of them have same amout of AP. And Tsuna can destroy all of 6 bodies inthe same time with his ultimate attack. So we're discussing that can destroy 6 bodies low 6-B count as 6-B or not.
 
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