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The reason why I want to push Tsuna's speed up to FTL has already been explained in my user blog.
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It seems like there is an error with my user blog, so I will explain the reason here + calculation until the user blog error is fixed.
The reason I want to push up FTL
Let's Get to the Calculation Part!
Tsuna should get a speed upgrade to FTL.
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It seems like there is an error with my user blog, so I will explain the reason here + calculation until the user blog error is fixed.
The reason I want to push up FTL
Many might wonder why. After all, Bermuda's base form after his curse was lifted wasn't as fast as light, so he had to combine his own speed with the Black Hole + Shock Warp to reach light speed.
This is because they are different types of speed. What was shown was merely combat speed and attack speed, along with reaction speed. In the series Reborn!, it is shown multiple times that these different speeds are not equal, which allows for this kind of plot justification.
Tsuna's escape from the black hole was based on his flight travel speed. It is important to note that Tsuna in Hyper Mode using the Vongola Gear wasn't fast enough to escape the black hole. He needed to use Cambio Forma. In his fight against Daemon, Tsuna's speed increased even more from the fusion of the rings.
During Tsuna's fight with Bermuda, the battle took place on the ground, so Tsuna didn't have his full speed.
Chapter 330
Page 12: Tsuna attempts to fly past a spherical object with a gravitational pull equal to a star.
Page 13: Tsuna's speed is not enough to escape the object's gravity, and he is pulled in and collides with it.
Page 15: The sphere breaks apart and becomes a black hole with even greater mass. It can be confirmed that this is a black hole.
Page 17: Tsuna tries to escape the black hole but doesn't have enough speed and is about to be sucked in.
Page 18: Tsuna uses Cambio Forma.
Chapter 331
Page 1: Tsuna is able to fly out of the black hole. The fact that he could escape shows that his speed must be faster than light, at least in terms of his flight speed. This indicates that using Cambio Forma significantly increased his speed to a level sufficient to escape the black hole's gravity.
Page 2: Tsuna can fly past all the black holes easily without being affected by their gravitational pull.
Page 12: Tsuna is very close to Enma.
Page 13: Enma becomes a black hole that distorts things before pulling them in.
Page 14: Tsuna is able to use his flight speed to escape, which clearly demonstrates that his flight speed is faster than light. This serves to emphasize Tsuna's speed.
Chapter 340
Daemon is shown to be significantly faster than both Enma and Tsuna, to the point where they can barely keep up.
Chapter 341
Daemon does not have enough travel speed to escape the black hole, but his combat speed and attack speed used for short-distance movements are very fast.
Chapter 342
Last Page: The Shimon Ring fuses with the Vongola Ring.
Chapter 343
Pages 11-15: This section shows a significant increase in Tsuna's Combat Speed. Daemon can't keep up with Tsuna at all. This means that after fusing the Vongola and Shimon rings, Tsuna's potential has increased greatly.
Chapter 344
Last Scene: Daemon puts his body into Mukuro to clash with Tsuna before sacrificing his body and trying to escape as a spirit using the Flame of Night, but he's interrupted by Vindice.
The speed shown here is Combat Speed, not Travel Speed. Therefore, we cannot conclude that his Combat Speed is FTL (Faster Than Light), nor should it be FTL.
This is because Daemon's speed is only Massively Hypersonic+ and he still can't escape Enma's black hole, as seen in Chapter 341.
If Tsuna's Combat Speed were FTL, then Daemon, along with Jack, Reborn, Bermuda, Hibari, and Mukuro, should also be FTL. This would create an anti-feat that contradicts the fact that Daemon cannot escape the black hole and that Bermuda's base form is slower than light.
Conclusion: Based on all the evidence, it seems that FTL Tsuna is justifiable, especially in terms of his Travel Speed, at least when flying. When combined with the power boost from the rings, his Combat Speed also increases.
Justification for Needing FTL Speed to Escape a Black Hole
It was created by Enma's Earth Flame power, which he used to control gravity and compress a large, star-like sphere into a black hole.
It's called a black hole, and Reborn even clearly explains what happens to real stars if they collapse.
Reborn explains that not even light can escape from it.
Reborn is a reliable source because he is considered a mathematical genius.
This is because they are different types of speed. What was shown was merely combat speed and attack speed, along with reaction speed. In the series Reborn!, it is shown multiple times that these different speeds are not equal, which allows for this kind of plot justification.
Tsuna's escape from the black hole was based on his flight travel speed. It is important to note that Tsuna in Hyper Mode using the Vongola Gear wasn't fast enough to escape the black hole. He needed to use Cambio Forma. In his fight against Daemon, Tsuna's speed increased even more from the fusion of the rings.
During Tsuna's fight with Bermuda, the battle took place on the ground, so Tsuna didn't have his full speed.
Chapter 330
Page 12: Tsuna attempts to fly past a spherical object with a gravitational pull equal to a star.
Page 13: Tsuna's speed is not enough to escape the object's gravity, and he is pulled in and collides with it.
Page 15: The sphere breaks apart and becomes a black hole with even greater mass. It can be confirmed that this is a black hole.
Page 17: Tsuna tries to escape the black hole but doesn't have enough speed and is about to be sucked in.
Page 18: Tsuna uses Cambio Forma.
Chapter 331
Page 1: Tsuna is able to fly out of the black hole. The fact that he could escape shows that his speed must be faster than light, at least in terms of his flight speed. This indicates that using Cambio Forma significantly increased his speed to a level sufficient to escape the black hole's gravity.
Page 2: Tsuna can fly past all the black holes easily without being affected by their gravitational pull.
Page 12: Tsuna is very close to Enma.
Page 13: Enma becomes a black hole that distorts things before pulling them in.
Page 14: Tsuna is able to use his flight speed to escape, which clearly demonstrates that his flight speed is faster than light. This serves to emphasize Tsuna's speed.
Chapter 340
Daemon is shown to be significantly faster than both Enma and Tsuna, to the point where they can barely keep up.
Chapter 341
Daemon does not have enough travel speed to escape the black hole, but his combat speed and attack speed used for short-distance movements are very fast.
Chapter 342
Last Page: The Shimon Ring fuses with the Vongola Ring.
Chapter 343
Pages 11-15: This section shows a significant increase in Tsuna's Combat Speed. Daemon can't keep up with Tsuna at all. This means that after fusing the Vongola and Shimon rings, Tsuna's potential has increased greatly.
Chapter 344
Last Scene: Daemon puts his body into Mukuro to clash with Tsuna before sacrificing his body and trying to escape as a spirit using the Flame of Night, but he's interrupted by Vindice.
The speed shown here is Combat Speed, not Travel Speed. Therefore, we cannot conclude that his Combat Speed is FTL (Faster Than Light), nor should it be FTL.
This is because Daemon's speed is only Massively Hypersonic+ and he still can't escape Enma's black hole, as seen in Chapter 341.
If Tsuna's Combat Speed were FTL, then Daemon, along with Jack, Reborn, Bermuda, Hibari, and Mukuro, should also be FTL. This would create an anti-feat that contradicts the fact that Daemon cannot escape the black hole and that Bermuda's base form is slower than light.
Conclusion: Based on all the evidence, it seems that FTL Tsuna is justifiable, especially in terms of his Travel Speed, at least when flying. When combined with the power boost from the rings, his Combat Speed also increases.
Justification for Needing FTL Speed to Escape a Black Hole
It was created by Enma's Earth Flame power, which he used to control gravity and compress a large, star-like sphere into a black hole.
It's called a black hole, and Reborn even clearly explains what happens to real stars if they collapse.
Reborn explains that not even light can escape from it.
Reborn is a reliable source because he is considered a mathematical genius.
Let's Get to the Calculation Part!
Data:
Tsuna's height = 105 px = 157 cm
1 px = 157 cm / 105 px = 1.49 cm
Tsuna's weight = 46.5 kg
This is the moment before Tsuna uses Cambio Forma to escape the black hole's radius. In this scene, Tsuna has enough speed to prevent himself from falling into the center of the black hole, but not enough to escape the gravitational pull. The goal is to find the speed required to escape the black hole.
1. Find the Radius of the Black Hole
Black hole radius = 1.49 cm * 229 px = 341.21 cm
Divide by 2 to get the radius = 170.605 cm = 1.70605 m
2. Find the Mass of the Black Hole
Using the formula for Mass: Mass: (c² * radius) / (2 * G)
M=(299,792,458^2×1.70605) ÷ (2×6.67408e-11) = 1.14871359e27
3. Find the Distance Between Tsuna and the Black Hole's Center
Distance = 1.49 cm \109 px = 162.41 cm = 1.6241 m
4. Find the Escape Velocity
Using the formula: V=√2GM ÷ √r = √(2×6.67408e-11×1.10356764e27) ÷ √(1.6241) = 307,261,110m/s
5. Find How Many Times Faster Than Light Tsuna Needs to Be to Escape the Black Hole
Divide the result by the speed of light:
307,261,110 \div 299,792,458 = 1.02491274c
Conclusion: Tsuna must be 1.02491274 times faster than light to escape the black hole.
This is considered the minimum speed, as we don't know how much his speed increas
ed after using Cambio Forma.
Tsuna's height = 105 px = 157 cm
1 px = 157 cm / 105 px = 1.49 cm
Tsuna's weight = 46.5 kg
This is the moment before Tsuna uses Cambio Forma to escape the black hole's radius. In this scene, Tsuna has enough speed to prevent himself from falling into the center of the black hole, but not enough to escape the gravitational pull. The goal is to find the speed required to escape the black hole.
1. Find the Radius of the Black Hole
Black hole radius = 1.49 cm * 229 px = 341.21 cm
Divide by 2 to get the radius = 170.605 cm = 1.70605 m
2. Find the Mass of the Black Hole
Using the formula for Mass: Mass: (c² * radius) / (2 * G)
M=(299,792,458^2×1.70605) ÷ (2×6.67408e-11) = 1.14871359e27
3. Find the Distance Between Tsuna and the Black Hole's Center
Distance = 1.49 cm \109 px = 162.41 cm = 1.6241 m
4. Find the Escape Velocity
Using the formula: V=√2GM ÷ √r = √(2×6.67408e-11×1.10356764e27) ÷ √(1.6241) = 307,261,110m/s
5. Find How Many Times Faster Than Light Tsuna Needs to Be to Escape the Black Hole
Divide the result by the speed of light:
307,261,110 \div 299,792,458 = 1.02491274c
Conclusion: Tsuna must be 1.02491274 times faster than light to escape the black hole.
This is considered the minimum speed, as we don't know how much his speed increas
ed after using Cambio Forma.
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