Kamen Rider Zero-One (End of Series) VS Sasaki Kojirou (Record of Ragnarok)

[Nicetoderp]

-SBA
-Speed is equalized
-REALxTIME Zero-One and Sasaki with Volund is used.
-Battle take place in the heart of Tokyo city, 20 meter apart.
-Zero-One start off in Rising Hopper.

Hidden Aruto:

Sasaki Kojirou:

 

[Sir_Ovens]

In Rising Hopper I guess it's a battle of who can out precog the other.

But that being said, I think Zero-Two just instantly wins. Sasaki has no counter to Aruto just choosing a future where he doesn't lose.

 

[Nicetoderp]

In Rising Hopper I guess it's a battle of who can out precog the other

That's my intention for this thread.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Pretty sure that Zero-One just outpredicted Kojirou, just like he did with Ark.

Since their AP are far apart (High 6-A vs 5-B), 01 can only defeat him by burning him alive with 1800-degree fire, flash freezing him, or letting the metal locusts erode him.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Pretty sure that Zero-One just outpredicted Kojirou, just like he did with Ark.

Show me Zero-One deflecting attacks that literally look like a dome around him from someone who blitzes and one-shots him through sheer predictions and skill, then we may talk.

Since their AP are far apart (High 6-A vs 5-B), 01 can only defeat him by burning him alive with 1800-degree fire, flash freezing him, or letting the metal locusts erode him.

Deflected lol

 

[Nicetoderp]

Show me Zero-One deflecting attacks that literally look like a dome around him from someone who blitzes and one-shots him through sheer predictions and skill, then we may talk.

Still dodge via the fact that Sasaki precog scale way lower than Z1 when the guy has already predicted everything Sasaki already predicted and copy his Skill.

Deflected lol

Dodge.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Still dodge via the fact that Sasaki precog scale way lower than Z1 when the guy has already predicted everything Sasaki already predicted and copy his Skill.

"he can do it! I'm gonna provide nothing, not even word of mouth, but he can do it!"

 

[Nicetoderp]

"he can do it! I'm gonna provide nothing, not even word of mouth, but he can do it!"

Dodo Magia precog can easily precog its way around TP and speed blitz (episode 13). And that got trump by Shining Arithmetic (25,000 predictions per 0.1 second that made specifically to mess with other precog) then that one got trump by Thouser 's Thousand Signal via his own skill and his own Skill got trump by Ark who can predicts around opponent thoughts, emotions, and what those thoughts could lead to on at the very least city-scale wide on several millions of timeline per prediction. All of that eventually have Aruto trump by sheer Learning capabilities. So yes, he does in fact just scale over Sasaki.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Dodo Magia precog can easily precog its way around TP and speed blitz (episode 13). And that got trump by Shining Arithmetic (25,000 predictions per 0.1 second that made specifically to mess with other precog) then that one got trump by Thouser 's Thousand Signal via his own skill and his own Skill got trump by Ark who can predicts around opponent thoughts, emotions, and what those thoughts could lead to on at the very least city-scale wide on several millions of timeline per prediction. All of that eventually have Aruto trump by sheer Learning capabilities. So yes, he does in fact just scale over Sasaki.

Return of the most Skilled Thread

That was when Zoro was a literal child- I know, it's just that Raiden at that age was already a killer. Can we drop this now?

vsbattles.com

This is Kojirou's skillwank to compare/contrast

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Yeah this battle is just how long before Aruto says **** it and pulls out Zero-Two.

Actually Metal Cluster Hopper would work too but I'm not sure how Aruto would survive in that case.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Hmm

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Show me Zero-One deflecting attacks that literally look like a dome around him from someone who blitzes and one-shots him through sheer predictions and skill, then we may talk.

You're on.

Spoiler: Long-Ass Skills Paragraph

The baseline Zero-One abilities began with him learning how to fight for the first time in five seconds while perceiving everything in slow-motion. Next is Dodo Magia, who has quick learning abilities and can predict enemy movement, allowing him to outpace the enemy's strength. This is obviously not comparable to Sasaki's level of skill, but it serves as a benchmark for what higher tiers in the verse can accomplish.

Next is Shining Hopper which can predict 25,000 attack and avoidance patterns within 0.01 seconds. This form was able to **** up Dodo Magia's prediction, which show how better it is in comparison.

Shining Arithmetic

Zero One Shining Hopper's arithmetic processing unit.
By learning about the enemy, it predicts its behavior and matches it with its own performance to calculate approximately 25,000 patterns of attack and evasion.
From these patterns, it can find the optimal solution in approximately 0.01 seconds.
This high-speed learning process gives the user an advantage in battle.
-Source

Then we got Thouser, who put Shining Hopper on fraudwatch. But here is when the scale changed.

Ark Drive Core

The heart of the artificial intelligence "Ark".
It analyzes the enormous amount of data it learns in real time to derive hundreds of millions of "conclusions about events".
It also stores the fluid metals that form the various types of equipment.
-Source

Ark can simulate hundreds of millions of events. This allowed him to anticipate Jin's attempt to betray him by knowing what they were thinking and what actions they would take. Comparable to a fellow supercomputer AI, There, which can simulate tens of thousands of simulations in which Zero-One dies repeatedly in order to outperform Ark's prediction.

Zero Two Arithmatech

The arithmetic processing unit of Kamen Rider Zero Two.
During combat, the artificial intelligence ZERE extracts the thoughts of conformists and predicts their actions by learning about the enemy and surrounding information.
From the 2 trillion attack and evasion patterns derived from this, it finds the optimal solution in approximately 0.01 seconds and communicates it to the conformant.
This ultra-high-speed learning enables the conformist to gain the upper hand in battle.
-Source

Quantum Leaper

Dimensional quantum leap device of Kamen Rider Zero Two.
This allows the various possibilities predicted by Zair to unfold on the same world.
-Source

Finally, we have Zero-Two, who basically tells Ark to double-check his math. This form effectively made Ark into another fraud, making his prediction ability the best in the verse. However, the highlight here is his quantum leap ability, which allows him to impose one of his predicted possibilities on reality such as making his death "non-existent" and attacking from multiple angles.

To recap, Zero-One's prediction ability is simply better to Kojirou's in terms of both quantity and quality, with the ability to generate tens of thousands to trillions of predictions compared to Kojirou's thousand images. Even having "higher levels" of analytical prediction, where his are superior to others in the verse.

Deflected lol

It is definitely a good idea for him to try deflect attacks that could freeze him on contact or burn him to crisp. Better yet, attack that could deconstruct him at the molecular level, because Kojirou is unaware of Zero-One's power and will attempt to clash his blades against him, resulting in this.

Metal gauntlets

Zero One Metal Clusterhopper's hand and forearm phase-transition armor.
The "cluster cell," which reveals the ferocity of the grasshopper, has the ability to cause embrittlement at the molecular level by eroding the target from the contact area and disintegrating it.
Furthermore, by applying blows, it produces a destructive force that can reduce any material to ashes.
This protects the forearms from the hands and reproduces the functions of a grasshopper, extending the abilities of the conformant.
-Source

In the end, what actually **** Kojirou up isn't because of "muh predictions" but because he tries to block dura neg attacks that he has no resistance to and end up being incap by either of the reasons above.

 

[BERRIES555]

Honestly, it’s likely incon

Let’s get the big thing out of the way: Precog. Z1’s precog scaling revolves around numbers, the greater the number, the superior the precog. Now, how much possibilities can Aruto predict. Up to this point, by the end of the movie, Aruto’s rating is likely within 64 trillion through out scanning Lucifer, who out scanned Z2.

Now, how does Sasaki scale? By the end of the Poseidon fight, Sasaki scanned ALL OF CREATION. Which includes the universe, afterlife, and helheim and likely even more. His scanning ability far exceeds Aruto by several miles. And due to the nature of Aruto’s precog relying on numbers, this makes Sasaki have the superior precog.

Due to Aruto’s innate double edge sword with his precog, Sasaki would be the one putting him on the back foot.

Now, how does Aruto counter this? With the Quantum Leaper.

Simply put, due to Quantum Superpositioning, Aruto could simply “teleport” himself into different possibilities. Even when he died, all Aruto did was just teleport into a different possibility to rewrite his own death.

So yeah, Sasaki’s precog would actually beat Aruto’s IMO and Aruto wouldn’t be able to land a hit. Sasaki on the other hand, wouldn’t be able to deal any meaning full damage due to Aruto being able to rewrite any damage away.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Yeah Zero-Two just makes this fight go nowhere since no matter how Sasaki predicts Aruto's next move he physically cannot make multiple moves at once, unlike Aruto who is in a constant state of making every move at once and specifically realizes the move that guarantees his continued existence.

 

[Kamenriderblaze]

Now, how does Sasaki scale? By the end of the Poseidon fight, Sasaki scanned ALL OF CREATION. Which includes the universe, afterlife, and helheim and likely even more. His scanning ability far exceeds Aruto by several miles. And due to the nature of Aruto’s precog relying on numbers, this makes Sasaki have the superior precog.

This doesn't really give me much info on how Sasaki precog can overwhelm zero two's precog to be honest

like sure in term of quality it give Sasaki better viewing i suppose but how many precog does it give sasaki ? like zero two give tens of thousands to trillions of predictions while Sasaki have what ? thousand i suppose

 

[Jamesthetaker]

I'm not sure if "all of creation" refers to the entire universe and everything in RoR, it could simply be a figure of speech referring to Kojirou's ability to scan Poseidon's movements on multiple levels. But we go with that interpretation, Zero-One does have an feat which is on par with or even higher than Kojirou's.

In Reiwa The First Generation movie, There detected a historical alteration in the timeline and was able to simulate another timeline from it. So There's prediction ability is basically 4-D.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I'm not sure if "all of creation" refers to the entire universe and everything in RoR, it could simply be a figure of speech referring to Kojirou's ability to scan Poseidon's movements on multiple levels. But we go with that interpretation, Zero-One does have an feat which is on par with or even higher than Kojirou's.

In Reiwa The First Generation movie, There detected a historical alteration in the timeline and was able to simulate another timeline from it. So There's prediction ability is basically 4-D.

Considering I know what this is for, that mutates Zero-One here into a smurf