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Oh so W doesn’t like fight people on Fourze’s level at that movie?Fourze x OOO is canon and its even referenced in later canonical material. Double is in that movie too, but he doesn't scale to any of the big stuff
Fourze, he’s the only Rider up to that pointWho defeated Scorpio Nova again?
Shotaro essentially tells Eiji that he and Philip will pay him back by taking on the fodder while Eiji and Gentaro fight the main threat. Shotaro and Philip are plot relevant, they just don't scale to higher tiers in the movieOh so W doesn’t like fight people on Fourze’s level at that movie?
That movie has some contradictions to the canon of both OOO and Fourze x OOO. I talked about it with a few people on Discord, but I'll go over it here:Oh wait, remember that one movie where W Xtreme and OOO TaJaDor fought that giant guy. They were underground, don’t remember the name of the movie but would that allow Tier 4 W?
Post series/Super Tatoba should be it's own keySo in accordance with Fourze's new keys, EoS OOO can be rated at High 4-C and some other profiles can be adjusted with that
@MagiSinbad agreed with Omnipresence being inherent abilities, which only Gaim, Decade 21, Ohma Zi-O and Ohma Form, Kiwami Megahex would have it.Just a recap of everything we agreed on, have yet to agreed on and disagreed.
Agreed: KR Heart's upgrade to Moon+, Fourze and OOO's upgrade to tier 4, Faix's upgrade to Large Town Level, W's upgrade to Town Level and MFTL upgrade to Neo Decade and Zi-O riders.
Yet to agree: Kiwami, Decade and Oma's Omnipresence and Drive's Overdrive multiplier
Something I want to touch upon: Shotriser still blocked an attack from Jackel so Z1 weapons should still be High 7-A even if they don't scale to their AP.
Post-Series is the best designation to go with given we're getting that new OOO movie soonPost series/Super Tatoba should be it's own key
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Can someone sum up Drive's Overdrive multiplier?
The reasoning for such a high number is the fact that a 1-2-3 Finisher can amp a users finisher by 10x. Drive used ALL of his shift cars to do his Overdrive attack. So what Ixa did was get an individual amp from one shift car, 3.3x, and multiply it by all the shift cars, 26, and then multiply it by 2x for the basic finisher.To add on to this, I used ratio to do the math here. Drive's AP would be amped 173.2x when he is in Overdrive. However, there is no statement on Overdrive's exact multiplier. So this could be a possibly or a far higher than 20x.
So in all, unless I royally **** up the math, Drive's APs should be:
Drive Type Tridoron: 218.75 Exatons (Moon Level+)
Type Tridoron + Finisher: 437.5 Exatons (Small Planet Level)
Drive Type Tridoron Attack 1-2-3/People Saver/Construction Site: 2.1875 Zettatons (Small Planet Level)
Drive Type Tridoron Attack 1-2-3/People Saver/Construction Site + Finishers: 4.375 Zettatons (Small Planet Level)
Type Tridoron Overdrive: 37.8875 Zettatons (Small Planet Level)
As for Heart, he should get at least 4.375 Zettatons since Super Evolutions have shown to be as strong as Drive's strongest moves besides Overdrive. In the finale, Overdrive and Heart is portrayed to share equal power since it needed the both of them to bypass Sigma Circular's shields.
Speaking of Sigma Circular, it's shields should scale to Overdrive since it was able to temporarily hold it off on top of Full Powered Heart. So it's new durability should change its description if 37.8875 Zettatons is accepted.
I believe using 20x as low-end is the safest result.The reasoning for such a high number is the fact that a 1-2-3 Finisher can amp a users finisher by 10x. Drive used ALL of his shift cars to do his Overdrive attack. So what Ixa did was get an individual amp from one shift car, 3.3x, and multiply it by all the shift cars, 26, and then multiply it by 2x for the basic finisher.
Also, he did say that if no one agrees with the 171x amp, we could simply say that Overdrive is far higher than 20x
Can Scorpio Nova actually use they energy combat wise or is that just his energy pool.Kamen Rider Fourze and OOO upgrade to High 4-C to 4-A
Fourze has fought against the Scorpio Nova during Episode 14, who's energy is directly compared to an exploding star. During Episode 48, Fourześ capable of defeating the Sagittarius Nova, who is superior to the Core Switch, which stopped the 12 Horoscope Switches from turning the Hole into the Dark Nebula, the Dark Nebula is big enough to contain a starry sky. The stats and keys of Fourze would be seperated in 3 sections, Start of Club Activity (EP 1-16), Distracting Meteor (EP 17-32), and Future in Hand (EP 33-48). Which would make the stats like this
Large Star Level (Scales to Scorpio Nova; who’s energy level is compared to an exploding star) | Large Star Level (Though by an unknown amount, Fourze is stronger than before) | Multi-Solar System Level (Defeated the Sagittarius Nova, who is superior to the Core Switch, which stopped the 12 Horoscope Switches from turning the Hole into the Dark Nebula, the Dark Nebula is big enough to contain a starry sky)
Post-Series OOO was able to fight alongside BoS Fourze, giving him a High 4-C Post-Series key.
Fighting Jackie is High 7-A with the weapon, why would the weapons be 6-C in durability and not just High 7-A?9-C to 9-B upgrade for Civilian forms, 6-C durability via weapons
During Kamen Rider Gaim: The President; Gai Amatsu was able to withstand attacks from Kuruto. We also know that Aruto scales to Fuwa during the early parts of the series, that's why everyone has class 1 LS, AP should brought over as well.
Now the weapons, qw actually see that they're capable of withstanding a lot of attacks. The Shotriser, which reasonable should be the most fragile, was capable of tanking an attack from Fighting Jackle (4:00). We also know that these weapons can consistently clash with one another, so their durability should be comparable to their AP, but as what Fuwa has shown, their durability shold actually be higher than that.
Does 50% power mean exactly that their speed is cut in half?Neo Decade RIders and Zi-O Riders MFTL speed upgrade
So, the current speed rating for Zi-O Riders are upscaled from this feat. So, we know that Base Decade could fight side by side with Grand Zi-O and against Another Zi-O ll while only having 50% of his power. Both Grand and Another are far faster than Wizard Infinity, who could blitz people on the same level of his All Dragon Style. Infinity should already be above 50c, multiply that by 2 would make Full Power Decade and Diend MFTL. All Zi-O Riders would lose their MFTL rating for a normal FTL+, Geiz is MFTL with Shippu though.
Not really for Decade, while his power got halved in half he can keep up with post-Grand Zi-O chars (End of series) pretty well.ATT, literally everything of Decade’s powers were stolen. Halve of his power was stored into something called an Another Watch, something which contains the literal existence of a person. So personally, I think having half of your existence stored in an object would also halve all your stats.
Well, I mean, that's kinda what I'm saying. even with half of his powers, he could still keep up with characters who could be far faster than All Dragon Wizard.Not really for Decade, while his power got halved in half he can keep up with post-Grand Zi-O chars (End of series) pretty well.
Hmm... This bit I am quite unsure about. Are his other feats closer to the power levels of this statement?Large Star Level (Scales to Scorpio Nova; who’s energy level is compared to an exploding star) | Large Star Level (Though by an unknown amount, Fourze is stronger than before)
Well, end of series has Fourze fought against Sagittarius Nova who can control Dark Nebula, a dimension which contain starry skies.Hmm... This bit I am quite unsure about. Are his other feats closer to the power levels of this statement?
Hmm. So is there even a need for 4-C then? Cause if he can be 4-A, why 4-C? Or did he get stronger by the end?Well, end of series has Fourze fought against Sagittarius Nova who can control Dark Nebula, a dimension which contain starry skies.
The thing here is every Zodiarts contribute their energy to DN which expand it further. So i guess it can be interpreted as every Zodiarts who has the energy of exploding star eventually powering up a dimension that hold countless stars inside it.
The Dark Nebula size wasn't 4-A at the beginning of series IIRC, it's why the Zodiarts are needed to contribute Cosmic Energy for it in first place.Hmm. So is there even a need for 4-C then? Cause if he can be 4-A, why 4-C? Or did he get stronger by the end?
Scorpio Nova is complete fodder to even unevolved Zodiarts that appear later in the seasonHmm. So is there even a need for 4-C then? Cause if he can be 4-A, why 4-C? Or did he get stronger by the end?
It was radiating from her own body, and after releasing all of it in an explosion both her and a point-blank Fourze were fineCan Scorpio Nova actually use they energy combat wise or is that just his energy pool.
Example: I can have the energy of a star but I can't use all of it for my attacks.
So, can this character use that energy for attacks, and or does energy equal AP?