Kamen Rider Ichigo Revision

[Mariogoods]

First, Kamen Rider Ichigo's lifting strength should be massively upgraded since the official sources stated that he has 15 t Punch Power, 10 ~ 15 times human Gripping Power, Approx. 11.3 t → 22.5 t Kicking Power in Base key. (Thanks for Kamen Rider Wiki)

Second, he should have [[Resistance]] to [[Absolute Zero]]<ref>Kamen Rider; Episode 97; "Takeshi Hongo, Cannot Transform!!"</ref> Even if it does not qualify Absolute Zero, it is still a Resistance to Temperature Manipulation.

Third, he should have [[Shapeshifting]]<ref>Kamen Rider vs. Shocker</ref> because it seems that he could shapeshift like other Shocker cyborgs.

However, I'm not knowledgeable in Kamen Rider series and helps from knowledgeable member are appreciated. I feel that Kamen Rider Ichigo's profile should be better with references because of the new rule and receive systematic revision.

 

[Lonkitt]

Not knowledgeable in the Kamen Rider series

There's always room for one more

What's the instance of his Resistance to Absolute Zero?

 

[Mariogoods]

There's always room for one more

What's the instance of his Resistance to Absolute Zero?

In the episode I refereed, the villain uses "Absolute Zero" on him to prevent his transformation. Even if it is not considered as absolute zero in VS Battles Wiki's standard, it is still a Resistance to Temperature Manipulation.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

The more the merrier for Kamen Rider supporters.

For the absolute zero thing, Ichigo didn't resist it completely as he got immobilized but given that he don't die from the freeze we could give Resistance to Temperature Manipulation.

Also, thank for your concern. Kamen Rider has a huge amount of characters so we are revising each series one by one, it's gonna take a very long time but we did make a progress.

 

[BERRIES555]

As for the LS, i don't think these would count for an upgrade. The specs talk about how Ichigo's Kicking/Punching Power is x amount, which likely talks about how strong his attacks are, not how much he could lift. Not only that, we don't count specs which talk about a character's kicking/punching power since they are very, VERY inconsistent

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Bump.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Now i just realized that i haven't give my actual opinion on this:

I somewhat disagree with using stats from KR wiki not because they're inaccurate but these numbers are usually contradicted by in-series feats. It stated that Ichigo only has 15 tons strength despite our profile say otherwise. However, gripping strength could upgrade LS for his first key. Assume normal person can lift 50kg then multiply it by 10-15 times we can get 500-750 kg (Peak Human - Class 1)

Resistance to Absolute Zero should be changed to Resistance to Temperature Manipulation FRA.

Agree with shapeshifting, i'm gonna find the movie to clip it here btw.

 

[Mariogoods]

Now i just realized that i haven't give my actual opinion on this:

I somewhat disagree with using stats from KR wiki not because they're inaccurate but these numbers are usually contradicted by in-series feats. It stated that Ichigo only has 15 tons strength despite our profile say otherwise. However, gripping strength could upgrade LS for his first key. Assume normal person can lift 50kg then multiply it by 10-15 times we can get 500-750 kg (Peak Human - Class 1)

Resistance to Absolute Zero should be changed to Resistance to Temperature Manipulation FRA.

Agree with shapeshifting, i'm gonna find the movie to clip it here btw.

I totally agree with your opinions. Actually, maybe we could create a thread for collecting Kamen Rider Ichigo's feats in General Discussion after this CRT is done.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Unfortunately, i currently don't have much time to go through 90 episodes of Kamen Rider now.

Actually @Metal Batta could help you with collecting Showa Riders feat since he had finished OG Kamen Rider and V3.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Shapshifting source. Ichigo can turn into Prof. Daidouji to fool Doctor Death.

 

[Mariogoods]

Shapshifting source. Ichigo can turn into Prof. Daidouji to fool Doctor Death.

Great. Then the last thing is waiting for an admin accept this.

 

[Antvasima]

What has been accepted above can probably be applied.

 

[ZeedKZ]

I was thinking that maybe a Limited Resistance to Absolute Zero could work as although he was unable to transform and move completely, his body still endured that temperature, but Resistance to Temperature Manipulation is fine.

 

[Mariogoods]

I was thinking that maybe a Limited Resistance to Absolute Zero could work as although he was unable to transform and move completely, his body still endured that temperature, but Resistance to Temperature Manipulation is fine.

VS Battles Wiki has a rule regarding Absolute Zero and I don't have extra time to find evidences of that being Absolute Zero.

 

[ZeedKZ]

Here is the moment. Hilchameleon (General Black) traps Hongo in a glass case, on which he tries to transform into Kamen Rider before he gets affected by absolute zero, nullifying the transformation (note that we see Typhoon covered with ice).

 

[Antvasima]

Well, we do have an explicit statement, and some visual confirmation, but it may have been an exaggeration, as the target was still moving:

Absolute Zero Feats in Fiction

Absolute Zero is the lowest temperature that is theoretically possible in according to the laws of thermodynamics. At -273.15°C (0K), the vibrational motion of particles would be minimal or stop completely. In the latter scenario, the atoms would lose all binding energy and fall apart under...

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[MagiSinbad]

Well, we do have an explicit statement, and some visual confirmation, but it may have been an exaggeration, as the target was still moving:

Absolute Zero Feats in Fiction

Absolute Zero is the lowest temperature that is theoretically possible in according to the laws of thermodynamics. At -273.15°C (0K), the vibrational motion of particles would be minimal or stop completely. In the latter scenario, the atoms would lose all binding energy and fall apart under...

vsbattles.fandom.com

The target is an enhanced cyborg that could tanks a nuclear bomb. So him being able to resisting it wouldnt be much of an outlier for the AZ.
Beside, the thread is proposing the resistance of Absolute Zero for Ichigo because he was able to move while enduring the absolute zero.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that it seems fine to apply then.

 

[ZeedKZ]

Kamen Rider V3 also reinforces that Riders can endure absolute zero temperatures, but cannot transform.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem then.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Ant said this can be apply now.

 

[Mariogoods]

Ant said this can be apply now.

I'll apply the Resistance to Absolute Zero (along with other accepted proposal) version since this gets accepted. Do you have other opinion before I apply them?

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Yeah, go ahead.

 

[Mariogoods]

Yeah, go ahead.

I have applied the CRT. You can check about it.

 

[Lonkitt]

Wasn't expecting an Ichigo revision anytime soon, but I'm glad we got one. Good work on the additions

 

[Mariogoods]

Wasn't expecting an Ichigo revision anytime soon, but I'm glad we got one. Good work on the additions

It is just the start. Rewatching original Kamen Rider, I feel that Kamen Rider Ichigo can safely stay in nuke level strength even without V3 feat, but it would be in further revision.

 

[ZeedKZ]

I'm doing sandboxes for Hongo and SHOCKER as well, although I started getting into Kamen Rider two months ago I catched some good stuff that aren't on the profiles. I'm already on Kamen Rider Amazon.

 

[MagiSinbad]

I'm doing sandboxes for Hongo and SHOCKER as well, although I started getting into Kamen Rider two months ago I catched some good stuff that aren't on the profiles. I'm already on Kamen Rider Amazon.

You may want to work with Metal Batta, because he is also working on Ichigo's sandbox

 

[ZeedKZ]

Oh, sure he has done a job far better than mine, so instead of Hongo I can work with Ichimonji, but Shocker for now is my main focus. I'm also hunting the scans, as for now I only have for the first four episodes.

 

[ZeedKZ]

On a side note, I recalculated the V3 nuke feat which got to 6-C, no one evaluated yet no matter how I bump it on Calc Evaluation Thread, anyone can take a short look?

 

[Jamesthetaker]

On a side note, I recalculated the V3 nuke feat which got to 6-C, no one evaluated yet no matter how I bump it on Calc Evaluation Thread, anyone can take a short look?

You should ask calc member directly on their message wall because this will affect their tiers.

 

[IxaSaga2]

Anyone wanting to support Kamen Rider is always welcomed to join our discord
We are in dire need of more people.

 

[ZeedKZ]

I just realized that a calculation for Tokyo's destruction already exists, Kame Bazooka constantly mentions that he has a nuclear bomb contained inside him, so 4.66 Gigatons end can be used for this.

 

[Antvasima]

What, if anything, is left to do here?

 

[Cloozuma]

I somewhat disagree with using stats from KR wiki not because they're inaccurate but these numbers are usually contradicted by in-series feats. It stated that Ichigo only has 15 tons strength despite our profile say otherwise. However, gripping strength could upgrade LS for his first key. Assume normal person can lift 50kg then multiply it by 10-15 times we can get 500-750 kg (Peak Human - Class 1)

Poppy is stronger than Kiwami Arms

 

[Lonkitt]

It is just the start. Rewatching original Kamen Rider, I feel that Kamen Rider Ichigo can safely stay in nuke level strength even without V3 feat, but it would be in further revision.

I just realized that a calculation for Tokyo's destruction already exists, Kame Bazooka constantly mentions that he has a nuclear bomb contained inside him, so 4.66 Gigatons end can be used for this.

Funny you mention that....

 

[Mariogoods]

You may want to work with Metal Batta, because he is also working on Ichigo's sandbox

Maybe he should know that the current Ichigo profile in VS Battles Wiki gets updated.

 

[Lonkitt]

The nuke feat is also relevant since one of Ichigo's forms that upscales that feat ends up affecting Ghost and Ex-Aid

 

[ZeedKZ]

Funny you mention that....

I didn't knew that a standard calculation for feats like that existed in my defense.

 

[Lonkitt]

No worries, I was simply bringing it up (been lurking on that feat for potential approval actually). Didn't mean to come across as insulting if that was the feeling you got