kamen rider discussion thread 5

[EMS-TC02_Phantom]

3x speed amp when?

Whenever his armor starts to glow bright red

 

[LinkSlayerLvX]

Also, as I was asking before.
What is your thought on giving Analytic Prediction to Sento? I has been asking around but not too many people seem to answer.

Seem like his intelligent with more detail to me

 

[Nicetoderp]

But would planning like that be just intelligent?

While it is planning, to do so with such clarity that basically predict what would happened not be Analytic Prediction? It is said that it work in both short term and long term after all, I think that it should apply to the latter category at least.

 

[Nicetoderp]

Metal Gauntlet (ÒâíÒé┐Òâ½Òé¼Òâ│ÒâêÒâ¼ÒââÒâê, Metaru Gantoretto) : The special forearm armor. Cluster Cells(Òé»Òâ®Òé╣Òé┐Òâ╝Òé╗Òâ½, Kurasut─ü Seru), robotic grasshoppers which MetalCluster Hopper is made from, and which have the ferocity of grasshoppers, have the ability to break down objects through contact by eroding the object at a molecular level, allowing Zero-One to create destructive punching power that can reduce any substance to ashes. This protects the forearm from the hand and reproduces a grasshopper's ability, extending the user's combat ability.

Also, molecule destruction. This should be good enough to be added, no?


Some screenshot I take straight from TV Asashi

 

[Shining_Trapezohedron]

I swear that the end form for Zero-One or Thouser or some other hidden villain would be like Turn A if this gundam thing keep on going.

We can agree that Zero-One Super Form have molecular decomposition or eroding. And man, does Metal Cluster is one of the most OP super form. It can let you attack and defense simulanteously without having to do any action command but that was the Ark doing anyway. Even Thouser just couldnt land a finger on it, even when using Lion Progrise Key. I wonder if the Progrise Hopper Blade function will be to also connect Aruto to Zea so it can nullify Ark Berserk tendency or just Izu in general helping Aruto control the Ark influence?

 

[Nicetoderp]

Who know, maybe Aruto will try to U N D E R S T A N D Ark's feeling like OO Gundam. Now all we need is a three times stat amp and that is when the fun truly begin.

Then should Thouser get resistance to matter manip due to him tanking MC Hopper for quite a while compare to the Raider?

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Should Vulcan also get it?

He's using is PRYING POWAH when getting swarmed by it IIRC

 

[Nicetoderp]

Hmmm, possibly, we could see that the swarm kinda just went pass him because Ark was aiming at killing Thouser, but he did tank the swarm first barrage so I would lean toward yes.

 

[Nicetoderp]

Also, it appear that one of the Mod(?) has accepted the Sento upgrade! If anyone wanna add it to his profile or question about it then leave some comment.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/4002328?useskin=oasis

 

[LinkSlayerLvX]

I agreed to give Deconstruction for Cluster Cell

 

[Nicetoderp]

I made a mistake

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Hey. Putting them against famous character lets people know of this verse more.

And... ain't that a... good thing?

 

[Nicetoderp]

I was mostly joking.

But really I am excited about this match.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

You thought that was a mistake? Somebody took my "haxxor-turned-sandbag" word too literally

 

[DVD181]

Mea culpa.

 

[DVD181]

Also, I just did a pretty big cleanup of the main verse page for KR under the calculations section. I think I've got every single calc group-accepted AP calculation and one speed calculation filed away there. Let me know how it looks!

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

And speaking of that, should Greeeds and Eiji have soul manipulation resistance/immunity? That's brought up in Ichigo vs Eiji match

 

[DVD181]

That's a good question. Do Greeeds actually have souls, or are they just desire (or in Eiji's case, a lack thereof) given form?

 

[Maskofthedragon]

Since the Rider Rings summon a Rider this could mean every Rider upto has Non-Physical Interaction and Soul Manipulation due to destroying monsters in World of Monsters

 

[Dienomite22]

I think Aruto should have Instinctive Reaction with Metal Cluster Hopper since the swarm passively protected him.

 

[Nicetoderp]

Most likely that it's Ark doing.

 

[Dienomite22]

yes but IR nonetheless

 

[Nicetoderp]

Work for me

 

[Kaijinoodles.EXE]

With more op bullshit character added like Oma Zio, Genm, and Ex-Aid, do any of you think we should update the power of the verse key? Or is it just me that feels this way.

 

[Nicetoderp]

I think it should stay the same. character on averge are still not out there yet.

 

[Nicetoderp]

More Eiji match. Every day, until you like it.

 

[Nicetoderp]

That's a good question. Do Greeeds actually have souls, or are they just desire (or in Eiji's case, a lack thereof) given form?

Well, seem to be like that. It is what Subarashi-man described them after all.

 

[DVD181]

With more op bullshit character added like Oma Zio, Genm, and Ex-Aid, do any of you think we should update the power of the verse key? Or is it just me that feels this way.

TBH that section is kinda poorly written. Let me go clean it up a bit.

 

[DVD181]

With more op bullshit character added like Oma Zio, Genm, and Ex-Aid, do any of you think we should update the power of the verse key? Or is it just me that feels this way.

TBH that section is kinda poorly written. Let me go clean it up a bit.

Aaaaand done. I think it's a little more accurate, detailed and up-to-date now.

 

[Kaijinoodles.EXE]

Thank you DVD181,very cool

 

[Nicetoderp]

Thank you for your work.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

It's heartwarming seeing more people talking here lol

Seems like the verse got more attention now

 

[Nicetoderp]

Yeah, it is pretty neato.

Anywho, I has been thinking about making White Woz profile, should I give him Limited Fate Manipulation from his future diary?

 

[DVD181]

I'm just glad there's actually people willing to work on this verse. Believe me, when I was trying to add more Kamen Rider info to this site all the way back in 2016, there was pretty much nobody else, so seeing all of you here is really heartwarming.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Yeah... Back then people don't know much of this.

Now, there are KR people being put against famous Verses, such as Bleach, or Godzilla

 

[DVD181]

So, on another note going ack to the Ichigo vs OOO match I made earlier, we need to ask ourselves: since Greeed are simply desire (or a lack thereof) given sentience, do they have souls that can be affected via Soulhax?

 

[Nicetoderp]

To quote myself from other thread.

For me, I would lean towrd a 'Yes' to 'Yes, maybe'. Due to Greeed entire existence based on Core Medals, desire conceptualized in a form of Medals and only given humanoid form due to them working in conjunctions with Cell Medal.

The first version of Greeed themselves are basically brain dead due to their 'desire' being fully content from having all 10 Medals.

Only do they given any form of actual sentient by having one of their Core pick off by the King. After that, they basically went balistic from their desire to being 'whole' again as they start absorbing things around them to fufilled their damaged existence.

 

[MagiSinbad]

honestly, Greeeds are the product of Alchemy, so i alway see them as some kind of Pseudo-homunculus. If we are considering this lore, then maybe Greeeds are also just living creatures with souls (with their cells being the medals)

 

[Nicetoderp]

Thing can be considered alive without needing soul.

While the head Core Medal does house the mind, their existence always anchor by their Core Medals. so for me,in order to messed with Greeed 'soul' they need to destroy their desire itself.

 

[Nicetoderp]

A new match I made for a little celebration for finally getting an avatar