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KinkiestSins said:
Grimreaperofjustice said:
^ I kno I just realized teir 7 and 6 but other resons should be enough also Kakashi overwhelmed Kaguya for a burst and BFR should be enough right?
BFR is fair
Overwhelming Kaguya is probably PIS or else he would be Low 5-B.
No No No, thats just like when Frieza overwhelmed Jiren it caught him off guard simply because he didnt know he would be able to do that and stealth because kakashi injured her at most that would be 6-C and above limit High 6-B but she recovered and simply dwarfed them again so it doesnt mean he was stronger just he managed to match her for a slight burtst
 
KinkiestSins said:
Dzhindzholia said:
Can Kenshiro counter kamui shurikens?
Also,Kakashi's BFR via Kamui now works a lot faster.
By making himself intangible, yes.
And alot faster how? Speed is equalized.

One can bfr, the other one shots.

So it practically evens out.
Oh yea this is a stomp due to "intangibility" kenshiro needs to touch Kakashi to beat him and all kakashi has to do is put his hand through Kenshiro and go tangable (head stomache etc.) Yea sor ry Kenshiro but...


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OMAE WA MOU SHINDERU,
 
Grimreaperofjustice said:
Oh yea this is a stomp due to "intangibility" kenshiro needs to touch Kakashi to beat him and all kakashi has to do is put his hand through Kenshiro and go tangable (head stomache etc.) Yea sor ry Kenshiro but...
I cant tell if you are being serious. Kakashi has literally never been shown to do that ever.

Heck, Obito had to turn himself solid to attack Minato with the same Jutsu, probably still applies.

Also, if you have an issue with the above, make a CRT

Even though quite frankly, it makes no sense.

It sounds like you mid roaded it. If Kakashi did damage Kaguya, you would probably need 5-C energy at the minimum.

The gap between High 6-B and Low 5-B is literally about 10,000x.
 
It works faster cause Kakashi has both eyes,he can BFR himself or someone without a problem.Or can use Kamui to kill Kenshiro,like he did that to Deidara's hands.
 
Dzhindzholia said:
It works faster cause Kakashi has both eyes,he can BFR himself or someone without a problem.Or can use Kamui to kill Kenshiro,like he did that to Deidara's hands.
Has he even been shown to bfr himself and someone at once?

And kamui doesnt kill, it just sends someone to another dimension.
 
KinkiestSins said:
Grimreaperofjustice said:
Oh yea this is a stomp due to "intangibility" kenshiro needs to touch Kakashi to beat him and all kakashi has to do is put his hand through Kenshiro and go tangable (head stomache etc.) Yea sor ry Kenshiro but...
I cant tell if you are being serious. Kakashi has literally never been shown to do that ever.
Heck, Obito had to turn himself solid to attack Minato with the same Jutsu, probably still applies.

Also, if you have an issue with the above, make a CRT

Even though quite frankly, it makes no sense.

It sounds like you mid roaded it. If Kakashi did damage Kaguya, you would probably need 5-C energy at the minimum.

The gap between High 6-B and Low 5-B is literally about 10,000x.
He had both sharingan "left eye and right eye" right eye was stated granted intangability left was teleportation

It was mentioned earlier so that "I cant tell if your being serious" shouldve been stated earlier or twice... either way I find it condesending

also I did state he would turn himself solid and while his hands where through kenshiro it would be over however it would just be dumb to compare kenshiros speed to Minitos, Why? because Minito is basacally instant when he had the flying rajin thrown pre planned had he not it wouldve been over

Fine if you wanna think I guess EVERYTHING I say is head canon here is kakashi damaging Kaguya Feat starts at 37:35 if you think thats not at least "damaging" much more injuring then I have no clue what you think injuring is

Also no he needs not 5-C Its not like she cant be damaged cause shes in a diffrent teir and this video did not even show the use of kamui shuriken that took the tailed beast arms... I think....

anyway non of this is ridicioulous or "makes no sence" Kaguya is not a "Diety" more god like to Naruto because of her abilities so... yea
 
KinkiestSins said:
Dzhindzholia said:
It works faster cause Kakashi has both eyes,he can BFR himself or someone without a problem.Or can use Kamui to kill Kenshiro,like he did that to Deidara's hands.
Has he even been shown to bfr himself and someone at once?
And kamui doesnt kill, it just sends someone to another dimension.
And Kamui can kill... tf bro you are literally head retconning every thing about Kamui

Kakashi has no mastery of bfr himself and someone else??????? ok well fine Ill admit but he can do it to himself AND someone else if he uses the bfr to someone else

Kamui manages to make your body intangablle and the only reason you dont see someone getting a hand through the head is because one you see it in a much less brutal way and plot Obitio did it to one of the Anbu guards placing his hand in their stomache

Also dude now that I think about it IF AIMED THE RIGHT WAY he can take your head off just like he did deideras hands it was all plot why Kamui didnt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THE WHOLE VERSE... so.... yea... dude you are lowballing the hell out of Kakashi I mean REALLY lowballng
 
KinkiestSins said:
Huesito88 said:
There are no FRA for Kenshiro
You can interpet mine as kenshiro fra considering he has more methods to one shot.
I also lean to him, but I stand with inconclusive.
Ok WOW Kakashi deals with Pressure point one shotters alot... THEY ARE CALLED HYUGA who can do it in one touch not ATATTATATATATATATATTATATAATTATATAT and also KAKASHI would not let Kenshiro just do that to him... and also people just want kenshiro to win judging by the FRA votes without reasoning
 
and also people just want kenshiro to win judging by the FRA votes without reasoning
Appeal to bias, which by the way I have done before is a literal fallacy.

And also, I would prefer a manga source.

Anime isnt always canon.

And fine, if I am lowballing, ask an Admin to come in here to debunk me my dude.

If someone gave me sufficient evidence, yeah **** it, I will change my vote.

I am done with this thread. I have yet to see a source that Kamui even kills.

It is just really, really good bfr.
 
Agreeing with Kink here I've never seen Kakashi or Obito use kamui to kill.

Also I would like to point out that Hyuugas pressure points strike were only shown to shut down chakra points never to instantly kill.

Still inconclusive however starting to lean toward Kenshiro given the fact Kakashi can't stay in the Susanoo forever and no one is giving out ways Kakashi could take Kenshiro quickly.
 
Didn't Kakashi use Kamui to damage Kaguya? (or am I mistaken been a while since I read the manga)
 
@Huesito88

Kakashi can throw Kamui shurikens,big ones via Susanoo,can do Kamui raiki and can kill via Kamuri from a distance,like he did to Deidara and Gedo Mazo.
 
Actually Kakashi can do a Kamui while attacking. That is the Kamui chdori attack he did to Kaguya that meant he was intangibale while atttacking. It seems to only be possiblw while having both eyes. And it takes out the chunk of the body hit by Kakashi.
 
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It works on fast moving targets,i don't see how Kenshiro counters that.Even in Naruto verse only Obito could counter that.
 
It literally warps the space that Kenshiro is standing in. I vote Kakashi he would never be hit and can do multiple warping long ranged attacks.
 
Dragon Ariia said:
There is no future where kakashi doesn't get one shotted... 😂

I'm in tearsssssss
Yes it is called intagibility, use your brain. And you really like bringing up Yhwach in everything. Is he your boyfriend?
 
I didn't mean it literally, just how I talk. And all that is under the assumption, I need my Brain full power to debate with you, which I do not.
 
Dragon Ariia said:
I didn't mean it literally, just how I talk. And all that is under the assumption, I need my Brain full power to debate with you, which I do not.
Nah you brain in full-power is not enough to even comprehend my arguments.
 
And I said that claim has no basis because he would not be touched. It is called intangibility for a reason. And unnless Kenshiro continues to attacks him for 5 whole mins with no breaks inbetween and Kakashi just stands there, there is no way that Kakashi would be hit.
 
And i actually agree with you, I do not know anything about kenshiro but your point makes sense. I simply used the illusionary fact that AP > hax, like you do when you touch Yhwach threads, so I played the role of rocker.
 
Yeah, because Yhwach's hax are totally useless when he can not win, unlike most hax. And it seems you really are going to keep bringing up Yhwach here. I really, really dont give a shit about him. So it would be best if you just stopped.
 
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