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i meant kachon saying akainu > kaen daiko which makes no sense because shanks at the time was < current base kaido
Didn't Shanks have a scuffle with him?
Akainu's devil fruit was stated to have the highest offensive power out of all devil fruits.
This doesn't translate to raw AP from physical strength, Haki etc.
Which Kaidou has.
Also the quake fruit clashed with it and Kaidou scales above that.
 
his punches were matched and stopped by characters who are sure as hell not > kaidos strongest attack

i dont disagree that it will melt kaido though
I mean, he'd have to hit Kaidou first.. And that's assuming Kaidou can't just block like Marco and Shanks did.
 
look i agree that its the strongest df but i wouldnt say its pure ap as much as it is heat
 
what about ace? shanks? whitebeard swiped magma as well
my boy, Ace died

Akainu was able to leave permanent damage on Whitebeard every time he touched him. And Shanks blocked one punch with his sword which isn't indicative of what would happen if they had a full fight.
 
my boy, Ace died

Akainu was able to leave permanent damage on Whitebeard every time he touched him. And Shanks blocked one punch with his sword which isn't indicative of what would happen if they had a full fight.
Ace purposefully jumped in front of the fist to stop Luffy from potentially getting fried.
Before that, Ace clashed with Akainu and matched him before the "Magma fruit>Fire fruit" thing kicked in and burnt him.
 
since its going for long, and the argument wont change anything because dura neg covers it anyway i think its best to change the topic
 
Wait, so you are allowed to have like 2v4 matches like that?

Things has changed around here.
Only if the characters often fight with eachother, and since the Admirals all fight with eachother and King is literally Kaido's right hand man, they fight together a lot
 
Hmmm both teams actually have wincons so huge para incoming

Kaido & King Wincons:

• Kaidos immense physical strength and endurance, combined with his ability to transform into a dragon make him a formidable opponent who could potentially overpower any of the Admirals individually.

• King's ability to fly and attack from the air could give him an advantage over the admirals, who may have difficulty keeping up with his movements.

• Kaido and King's combined combat experience and leadership skills could also give them an advantage in a battle against the admirals

4 Admirals Wincons:

• The Admirals unique DF abilities and combat skills make them a powerful team with a wide range of attacks and strategies.

• Akainu's Magma attacks could potentially overwhelm Kaido & King, who may have difficulty defending against his attacks

• Kuzan's Ice attacks could potentially slow down or immobilize Kaido and King, giving the Admirals an opportunity to attack.

• Kizaru's speed and laser attacks could potentially catch Kaido and King off guard and deal significant damage

• Fujitora's gravity attacks could potentially disrupt Kaido and King's movements and make them more vulnerable to attacks.

Who would win:

It is difficult to predict who would come out on top. Both teams are extremely powerful and skilled, and the outcome of the battle would depend on a variety of factors such as their strategies, teamwork and individual abilities.

However the advantage seems to be in favor of the 4 Admirals as they have a numerical advantage and a wide range of powerful Devil Fruit abilities that could potentially overwhelm Kaido and King. Addtionaly, The Admirals have experience working together and coordinating their attacks, which could give them an advantage over Kaido and King who may not be as familiar with fighting as a team👺.
 
Hmmm both teams actually have wincons so huge para incoming

Kaido & King Wincons:

• Kaidos immense physical strength and endurance, combined with his ability to transform into a dragon make him a formidable opponent who could potentially overpower any of the Admirals individually.

• King's ability to fly and attack from the air could give him an advantage over the admirals, who may have difficulty keeping up with his movements.

• Kaido and King's combined combat experience and leadership skills could also give them an advantage in a battle against the admirals

4 Admirals Wincons:

• The Admirals unique DF abilities and combat skills make them a powerful team with a wide range of attacks and strategies.

• Akainu's Magma attacks could potentially overwhelm Kaido & King, who may have difficulty defending against his attacks

• Kuzan's Ice attacks could potentially slow down or immobilize Kaido and King, giving the Admirals an opportunity to attack.

• Kizaru's speed and laser attacks could potentially catch Kaido and King off guard and deal significant damage

• Fujitora's gravity attacks could potentially disrupt Kaido and King's movements and make them more vulnerable to attacks.

Who would win:

It is difficult to predict who would come out on top. Both teams are extremely powerful and skilled, and the outcome of the battle would depend on a variety of factors such as their strategies, teamwork and individual abilities.

However the advantage seems to be in favor of the 4 Admirals as they have a numerical advantage and a wide range of powerful Devil Fruit abilities that could potentially overwhelm Kaido and King. Addtionaly, The Admirals have experience working together and coordinating their attacks, which could give them an advantage over Kaido and King who may not be as familiar with fighting as a team👺.
Additional wincons:

Kaido:
-Can Fly
-Flame Clouds
-Advanced in all Haki
-A lot of boosts
-Drunken boosts
-Range

King:
-A lot of Amps

Akainu:
-Range > King's

Kizaru:
-Danmaku

Fujitora:
-Greenbull, who he scales to, beat a weakened King and Queen with no damage

Kuzan:
-Range > King's
 
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